Re: Testing the weather sealing
Yep, I had figured out that expression, but it took me some time before started thinking about non-literal meaning... :) The curious fact is that in [at least] a few East-European languages, the head can be called (very informally) a cauldron or teakettle. Also, people can talk about something cooking or boiling in it, describing the process or ability of thinking. E.g. "The ball hit him on his teakettle". "His cauldron is cooking very well." So, I suspect the original of the phrase you used might actually stem from a similar usage. (The Stackexchange crowd wrote that the etimology is unclear). (But then "teakettle" is also often used exactly as "newb" in English. "I am a total teakettle in tango.") Cheers, Igor Larry Colen Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:40:03 -0700 wrote: A bit of clarification... I didn't actually end up on my ass. The wave hit me, maybe up to my knees or thighs, I teetered a bit, lost my balance and fell forward. I caught myself on the sharp rocks with my right hand, and also scraped up my left shin pretty good. I don't think the gear got submerged, just splashed. It's possible that the lenscap for the 15-30 hit the rock, there also seems to be a little bit of dampness at the front of the 15-30. Water might have gotten in around the lens cap there. The back seemed dry. Igor PDML-StR wrote on 10/31/18 9:09 AM: I'd be afraid of the dust particles produced by rice. Larry, sorry to hear about the mishap. I hope you had insurance and it will cover the replacement. I hope this will give you a smile: At first, I was confused how your ass knocking off a teakettle, which poured a wave of water onto your equipment, - resulted in your scrapes and contusions. (Did lenses or the teakettle resist your ass' aggression?) https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/186151/origin-of-tail-over-teakettle It was a bit of hyperbole, fortunately I didn't go fully over backwards, that would have been off the rocks I was standing on and into a foot of water or so. That's what happened to one of the other fellows there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Testing the weather sealing
P. J. Alling wrote on 10/31/18 10:53 AM: The problem might not be the water, the lens could have impacted on the rock just right to break a lead or a solder joint, replace the board or what could be an easy fix if you can figure out which joint. No one will know until the lens is opened. I'd like to think the weather sealing is good enough to keep some splashed salt water out of the electronics... That is exactly my hope. I'll need to figure out what I need to do to send it in. Don't know whether to do so immediately, or just keep the lens with me as a manual focus ultrawide, until I get home Sundayish. On 10/31/2018 12:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote: A bit of clarification... I didn't actually end up on my ass. The wave hit me, maybe up to my knees or thighs, I teetered a bit, lost my balance and fell forward. I caught myself on the sharp rocks with my right hand, and also scraped up my left shin pretty good. I don't think the gear got submerged, just splashed. It's possible that the lenscap for the 15-30 hit the rock, there also seems to be a little bit of dampness at the front of the 15-30. Water might have gotten in around the lens cap there. The back seemed dry. Igor PDML-StR wrote on 10/31/18 9:09 AM: I'd be afraid of the dust particles produced by rice. Larry, sorry to hear about the mishap. I hope you had insurance and it will cover the replacement. I hope this will give you a smile: At first, I was confused how your ass knocking off a teakettle, which poured a wave of water onto your equipment, - resulted in your scrapes and contusions. (Did lenses or the teakettle resist your ass' aggression?) https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/186151/origin-of-tail-over-teakettle It was a bit of hyperbole, fortunately I didn't go fully over backwards, that would have been off the rocks I was standing on and into a foot of water or so. That's what happened to one of the other fellows there. In retrospect, I realized that the reason that there were two guys that went out first and only one was shooting was that the other was covering for him, warning him about big waves and provided extra stability in situations like this. Very good ideas, oh well, live and learn. It took me quite some time to figure it out and I had to re-read your poetic message a few times. The fact that my literal teakettle was still full as I hadn't finished my morning tea could've been a factor in this mis-reading. Igor ann sanfedele Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:27:01 -0700 wrote: or bury it in rice ? not corrosive that worked nicely for a drowned cellphone ann On 10/31/2018 5:06 AM, Toine wrote: Put it in plastic container for a day or two with a few silicagel bags and fingers crossed. The silicagel bags should not touch the lens, if they get wet the solution is corrosive. On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 06:41, Larry Colen wrote: I got knocked ass over teakettle this afternoon by a wave at Thor's well this afternoon. The good news is that I had the lens cap on the 15-30, my K-1, K-3II and my 28-105 all seem to be unscathed. I also expect my various scrapes and contusions to heal OK. The not so good news is that the 15-30 will no longer autofocus and when I put it on either of two camera bodies they don't read it as an autofocus lens. I don't see any damage to contacts. Any ideas for an easy fix? Or should I just send it in? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Testing the weather sealing
The problem might not be the water, the lens could have impacted on the rock just right to break a lead or a solder joint, replace the board or what could be an easy fix if you can figure out which joint. No one will know until the lens is opened. I'd like to think the weather sealing is good enough to keep some splashed salt water out of the electronics... On 10/31/2018 12:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote: A bit of clarification... I didn't actually end up on my ass. The wave hit me, maybe up to my knees or thighs, I teetered a bit, lost my balance and fell forward. I caught myself on the sharp rocks with my right hand, and also scraped up my left shin pretty good. I don't think the gear got submerged, just splashed. It's possible that the lenscap for the 15-30 hit the rock, there also seems to be a little bit of dampness at the front of the 15-30. Water might have gotten in around the lens cap there. The back seemed dry. Igor PDML-StR wrote on 10/31/18 9:09 AM: I'd be afraid of the dust particles produced by rice. Larry, sorry to hear about the mishap. I hope you had insurance and it will cover the replacement. I hope this will give you a smile: At first, I was confused how your ass knocking off a teakettle, which poured a wave of water onto your equipment, - resulted in your scrapes and contusions. (Did lenses or the teakettle resist your ass' aggression?) https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/186151/origin-of-tail-over-teakettle It was a bit of hyperbole, fortunately I didn't go fully over backwards, that would have been off the rocks I was standing on and into a foot of water or so. That's what happened to one of the other fellows there. In retrospect, I realized that the reason that there were two guys that went out first and only one was shooting was that the other was covering for him, warning him about big waves and provided extra stability in situations like this. Very good ideas, oh well, live and learn. It took me quite some time to figure it out and I had to re-read your poetic message a few times. The fact that my literal teakettle was still full as I hadn't finished my morning tea could've been a factor in this mis-reading. Igor ann sanfedele Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:27:01 -0700 wrote: or bury it in rice ? not corrosive that worked nicely for a drowned cellphone ann On 10/31/2018 5:06 AM, Toine wrote: Put it in plastic container for a day or two with a few silicagel bags and fingers crossed. The silicagel bags should not touch the lens, if they get wet the solution is corrosive. On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 06:41, Larry Colen wrote: I got knocked ass over teakettle this afternoon by a wave at Thor's well this afternoon. The good news is that I had the lens cap on the 15-30, my K-1, K-3II and my 28-105 all seem to be unscathed. I also expect my various scrapes and contusions to heal OK. The not so good news is that the 15-30 will no longer autofocus and when I put it on either of two camera bodies they don't read it as an autofocus lens. I don't see any damage to contacts. Any ideas for an easy fix? Or should I just send it in? -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Testing the weather sealing
A bit of clarification... I didn't actually end up on my ass. The wave hit me, maybe up to my knees or thighs, I teetered a bit, lost my balance and fell forward. I caught myself on the sharp rocks with my right hand, and also scraped up my left shin pretty good. I don't think the gear got submerged, just splashed. It's possible that the lenscap for the 15-30 hit the rock, there also seems to be a little bit of dampness at the front of the 15-30. Water might have gotten in around the lens cap there. The back seemed dry. Igor PDML-StR wrote on 10/31/18 9:09 AM: I'd be afraid of the dust particles produced by rice. Larry, sorry to hear about the mishap. I hope you had insurance and it will cover the replacement. I hope this will give you a smile: At first, I was confused how your ass knocking off a teakettle, which poured a wave of water onto your equipment, - resulted in your scrapes and contusions. (Did lenses or the teakettle resist your ass' aggression?) https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/186151/origin-of-tail-over-teakettle It was a bit of hyperbole, fortunately I didn't go fully over backwards, that would have been off the rocks I was standing on and into a foot of water or so. That's what happened to one of the other fellows there. In retrospect, I realized that the reason that there were two guys that went out first and only one was shooting was that the other was covering for him, warning him about big waves and provided extra stability in situations like this. Very good ideas, oh well, live and learn. It took me quite some time to figure it out and I had to re-read your poetic message a few times. The fact that my literal teakettle was still full as I hadn't finished my morning tea could've been a factor in this mis-reading. Igor ann sanfedele Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:27:01 -0700 wrote: or bury it in rice ? not corrosive that worked nicely for a drowned cellphone ann On 10/31/2018 5:06 AM, Toine wrote: Put it in plastic container for a day or two with a few silicagel bags and fingers crossed. The silicagel bags should not touch the lens, if they get wet the solution is corrosive. On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 06:41, Larry Colen wrote: I got knocked ass over teakettle this afternoon by a wave at Thor's well this afternoon. The good news is that I had the lens cap on the 15-30, my K-1, K-3II and my 28-105 all seem to be unscathed. I also expect my various scrapes and contusions to heal OK. The not so good news is that the 15-30 will no longer autofocus and when I put it on either of two camera bodies they don't read it as an autofocus lens. I don't see any damage to contacts. Any ideas for an easy fix? Or should I just send it in? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Testing the weather sealing
I'd be afraid of the dust particles produced by rice. Larry, sorry to hear about the mishap. I hope you had insurance and it will cover the replacement. I hope this will give you a smile: At first, I was confused how your ass knocking off a teakettle, which poured a wave of water onto your equipment, - resulted in your scrapes and contusions. (Did lenses or the teakettle resist your ass' aggression?) It took me quite some time to figure it out and I had to re-read your poetic message a few times. The fact that my literal teakettle was still full as I hadn't finished my morning tea could've been a factor in this mis-reading. Igor ann sanfedele Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:27:01 -0700 wrote: or bury it in rice ? not corrosive that worked nicely for a drowned cellphone ann On 10/31/2018 5:06 AM, Toine wrote: Put it in plastic container for a day or two with a few silicagel bags and fingers crossed. The silicagel bags should not touch the lens, if they get wet the solution is corrosive. On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 06:41, Larry Colen wrote: I got knocked ass over teakettle this afternoon by a wave at Thor's well this afternoon. The good news is that I had the lens cap on the 15-30, my K-1, K-3II and my 28-105 all seem to be unscathed. I also expect my various scrapes and contusions to heal OK. The not so good news is that the 15-30 will no longer autofocus and when I put it on either of two camera bodies they don't read it as an autofocus lens. I don't see any damage to contacts. Any ideas for an easy fix? Or should I just send it in? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Testing the weather sealing
or bury it in rice ? not corrosive that worked nicely for a drowned cellphone ann On 10/31/2018 5:06 AM, Toine wrote: Put it in plastic container for a day or two with a few silicagel bags and fingers crossed. The silicagel bags should not touch the lens, if they get wet the solution is corrosive. On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 06:41, Larry Colen wrote: I got knocked ass over teakettle this afternoon by a wave at Thor's well this afternoon. The good news is that I had the lens cap on the 15-30, my K-1, K-3II and my 28-105 all seem to be unscathed. I also expect my various scrapes and contusions to heal OK. The not so good news is that the 15-30 will no longer autofocus and when I put it on either of two camera bodies they don't read it as an autofocus lens. I don't see any damage to contacts. Any ideas for an easy fix? Or should I just send it in? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Testing the weather sealing
Salt water, right? RIP for the 16-30, methinks. Rick On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 05:06 Toine wrote: > Put it in plastic container for a day or two with a few silicagel bags and > fingers crossed. The silicagel bags should not touch the lens, if they get > wet the solution is corrosive. > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 06:41, Larry Colen wrote: > > > I got knocked ass over teakettle this afternoon by a wave at Thor's well > > this afternoon. The good news is that I had the lens cap on the 15-30, > > my K-1, K-3II and my 28-105 all seem to be unscathed. I also expect my > > various scrapes and contusions to heal OK. > > The not so good news is that the 15-30 will no longer autofocus and when > > I put it on either of two camera bodies they don't read it as an > > autofocus lens. I don't see any damage to contacts. > > > > Any ideas for an easy fix? Or should I just send it in? > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Testing the weather sealing
Put it in plastic container for a day or two with a few silicagel bags and fingers crossed. The silicagel bags should not touch the lens, if they get wet the solution is corrosive. On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 06:41, Larry Colen wrote: > I got knocked ass over teakettle this afternoon by a wave at Thor's well > this afternoon. The good news is that I had the lens cap on the 15-30, > my K-1, K-3II and my 28-105 all seem to be unscathed. I also expect my > various scrapes and contusions to heal OK. > The not so good news is that the 15-30 will no longer autofocus and when > I put it on either of two camera bodies they don't read it as an > autofocus lens. I don't see any damage to contacts. > > Any ideas for an easy fix? Or should I just send it in? > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
