John, Jon A, list,
Yes, this last post of yours, John, makes a lot of sense to me such that I
think we are fundamentally in agreement. I must admit that I was thrown a
bit by your comment in one message that you put induction first and
deduction last, but you've clarified that to some extent in re
Gary R and Jon A,
Gary
as Peirce argues in the Neglected Argument and elsewhere is,
first, hypothesis formation (abduction), deduction of the
implications of the hypothesis for the purpose of devising
a test of it, and, once a test has been devised, finally the
inductive experimental testing is
Gary R., list,
I like your post!
“All men, Socrates, who have any degree of right feeling, at the beginning
of every enterprise, whether small or great, always call upon God. And we,
too, who are going to discourse of the nature of the universe, how created
or how existing without creation, i
>”I doubt that the animal species had the brain capacity to develop language”
I don’t know about that. Communication between animals has been long
well-established, so perhaps I need to know what you mean by “language”. I am
almost embarrassed to have to admit that I just googled “do animals tal
Gary f:
"pet theories"? :)
Best,
J
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 3:00 PM, wrote:
> Jerry R, list,
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> Lowell 2.4 introduces the “conditional *de inesse,*” as Peirce calls it,
> as the most simple and basic logical form that needs to be represented in
> the system of existential graphs. It was
Also, well be looking at one of the most important primary sources on
genuine and degenerate relations among the elemental categories when we get
to Lowell Lecture 3. If you want to skip ahead, read CP 1.521-40.
Gary f.
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Jerry R, list,
Lowell 2.4 introduces the “conditional de inesse,” as Peirce calls it, as the
most simple and basic logical form that needs to be represented in the system
of existential graphs. It was not obvious to me at first why Peirce chose this
particular form as the place to start; so
Stephen - if I understand you correctly, you are suggesting that it
is the FORM of the insect that is defining its actions within the
world. I can certainly see that the Form definitely
enables/constrains its actions, but you are, I think, removing the
notion of Mind from the formation of that
Stephen - you wrote that
that some animals have vestigial representations of vocal chords but
chose not to use them, so their ability to speak atrophied.
I don't see this; I don't see that the animal species CHOSE not to
use those vocal chords. Speech is a cognitive sys
>”You seem to confine Mind to individual actions rather than also collective
>actions - which is strange, since I would think that quantum entanglement
>involves a communal interaction.”
You raise good points Edwina. I try to keep things simple and brief, in the
interests of keeping things dig
Jon A, John, list,
Jon wrote: It’s good to remember that observation, perception itself, has
an abductive character in Peirce’s analysis and induction for him is more a
final testing than initial conception stage.
I was trying to make something akin to this point in quoting Peirce on the
three st
John, List ...
It’s good to remember that observation, perception itself, has an abductive
character in Peirce’s analysis and induction for him is more a final testing
than initial conception stage. Yes, it’s wheels upon wheels but some steps are
logically more primitive in the recursion.
Reg
>”After all, a tiny butterfly knows how to live the instant it emerges; it
>doesn't require a learning phase”
Good point, Edwina. But I conjecture that the butterfly’s body (or any other
insect’s body) sufficiently accounts for the predispositions that enable it to
make sensible choices from a
Stephen - interesting; I haven't thought of it that way.
Yes, all organisms learn how to live, but in most cases, the
knowledge base is stable and incapable of much change [which
contributes to the stability of the biological world]. I have put
the knowledge base of most non-h
>”Our species, homo sapiens, has no genetic knowledge. The human individual has
>to learn-how-to-live. This is certainly achieved by imitation. This enables
>continuity and stability. The lack of genetic knowledge gives this species an
>enormous capacity to change its lifestyle and technology.”
Stephen - thanks for your outline.
My comments are [apart from my view that I don't agree that 'the
Western world is unravelling'] - but, imitation is the first basic
component of 'continuity'. The function of an organism/species - is
reproduction-of-type. Mimesis, or imitation is the m
I received an offline message that asked where learning occurs
in the cycle of observation, induction, abduction, revision,
deduction, and action.
Answer: at every turn of every cycle.
John
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But your cycle implies that one person just keeps going around it,
While we are on the topic of categories
some time ago, we discussed the
role of imitation with respect to pragmatism, and I recall that we arrived
at a consensus that yes, imitation is important. But as we watch the western
world unravel, Ive been thinking more and more about the role imitation i
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