[PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-06-23 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary F., List: It sounds like we are more or less on the same page regarding the continuity of semeiosis in general, and of interpreter and interpretant in particular. Every proposition--including "a sign mediates between its object and its interpretant," which can be expressed with the "tripod"

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-06-23 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }List Thanks to Robert Marty for both the list of the 76 definitions of the sign - and - for the diagram of the dynamics of the semiosic process. It's very clear in that diagram how the triadic process functions

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-06-23 Thread Helmut Raulien
List,   The difference between mediation and relation rings a bell to me. There are two kinds of relation: Relatio rationalis and relatio naturalis. Relatio rationalis is a by a mind supposed relation, without the need of both parts actually to take part, or communicate with each other. Relatio

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Sign Relations

2020-06-23 Thread Jon Awbrey
Cf: Sign Relations • Denotation http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2020/06/23/sign-relations-%e2%80%a2-denotation/ One aspect of a sign's complete meaning concerns the reference a sign has to its objects, which objects are collectively known as the “denotation” of the sign. In the pragmatic theory

correction RE: [PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-06-23 Thread gnox
Jon, sorry, I meant to reply to your final paragraph but got distracted. (New rule: never try to compose a post while you have a chatty 6-year-old bouncing around you.) I also fixed an omission in my post below. JAS: I agree, but I believe that we must still carefully distinguish an

RE: [PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-06-23 Thread gnox
Jon, sorry, I meant to reply to your final paragraph but got distracted. (New rule: never try to compose a post while you have a chatty 6-year-old bouncing around you.) I also fixed an omission in my post below. From: g...@gnusystems.ca Sent: 23-Jun-20 08:26 To:

[PEIRCE-L] diagrams of semiosis

2020-06-23 Thread gnox
Jon, list, I decided to change the subject line, as we’re not really talking about communication here. JAS: In CP 1.345-347 (1903), Peirce is talking about genuine triadic relations, and "representing" or (more generally) "mediating" is just such a relation with three subjects--the sign, its