Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: PEIRCE-L] "More Pragmatism, Not Less"

2014-10-13 Thread Mike Bergman
- Original Message - *From:* Helmut Raulien <http://h.raul...@gmx.de> *To:* peirce-l@list.iupui.edu <http://peirce-l@list.iupui.edu> *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 1:22 PM *Subject:* Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: PEIRCE-L] "More Pragmatism,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: PEIRCE-L] "More Pragmatism, Not Less"

2014-10-13 Thread Dennis Leri
and its >> resultant economic and political vacuums is why we are seeing the various >> implosions around the world. [No, they aren't due to the big bad USA]. >> >> What we see with ISIS, one type of vacuum filling implosion, for example, is >> an extreme,

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2014-10-13 Thread Helmut Raulien
e in power, THEN...perfection? Can't work for reasons which I won't go into here. But to attain that power, requires massive brutality and killing. And massive repression, where a huge section of the population are reduced to slavery.   Am I my brother's keeper?   Edwina - O

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2014-10-13 Thread Helmut Raulien
me, violent utopianism, where IF ONLY they were in power, THEN...perfection? Can't work for reasons which I won't go into here. But to attain that power, requires massive brutality and killing. And massive repression, where a huge section of the population are reduced to slavery.   Am I my broth

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2014-10-13 Thread Stephen C. Rose
n power, > THEN...perfection? Can't work for reasons which I won't go into here. But > to attain that power, requires massive brutality and killing. And massive > repression, where a huge section of the population are reduced to slavery. > > Am I my brother's keeper? &g

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2014-10-13 Thread Helmut Raulien
massive repression, where a huge section of the population are reduced to slavery.   Am I my brother's keeper?   Edwina ----- Original Message - From: Helmut Raulien To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 1:22 PM Subject: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: PEIRCE-L] "M

[PEIRCE-L] Re: PEIRCE-L] "More Pragmatism, Not Less"

2014-10-13 Thread Gary Richmond
Phyllis, list, I had been thinking about your dandelion metaphor when at breakfast today I read Thomas Friedman's article, "I.S. = Invasive Species" http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/12/opinion/sunday/thomas-l-friedman-is-invasive-species.html in which he uses a similar metaphor to describe the rapid

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: PEIRCE-L] "More Pragmatism, Not Less"

2014-10-13 Thread Edwina Taborsky
de from it. Taking over a population by ruthless force, dictated by an ideology of biological or religious or ideological racism, i.e., exclusionary - and repressing by force, expelling, murdering anyone who does not submit to this ideology...I don't think that pacifism is the mor

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2014-10-13 Thread Helmut Raulien
ng that self and submerging it within the utopianism of 'communal submission'.  But both; it's not an easy task.   Edwina - Original Message - From: Stephen C. Rose To: Edwina Taborsky Cc: Peirce List Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L]

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2014-10-13 Thread Stephen C. Rose
bmerging it within the utopianism of > 'communal submission'. But both; it's not an easy task. > > Edwina > > - Original Message - > *From:* Stephen C. Rose > *To:* Edwina Taborsky > *Cc:* Peirce List > *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 11:06 AM &

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2014-10-13 Thread Edwina Taborsky
lf and submerging it within the utopianism of 'communal submission'. But both; it's not an easy task. Edwina - Original Message - From: Stephen C. Rose To: Edwina Taborsky Cc: Peirce List Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: P

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: PEIRCE-L] "More Pragmatism, Not Less"

2014-10-13 Thread Stephen C. Rose
, dictated by an ideology of > biological or religious or ideological racism, i.e., exclusionary - and > repressing by force, expelling, murdering anyone who does not submit to > this ideology...I don't think that pacifism is the moral response to such > thuggish behaviour. > >

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: PEIRCE-L] "More Pragmatism, Not Less"

2014-10-13 Thread Edwina Taborsky
oral response to such thuggish behaviour. Edwina ----- Original Message - From: Phyllis Chiasson To: Gary Richmond ; Eugene Halton Cc: Peirce List Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:19 AM Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Re: PEIRCE-L] "More Pragmatism, Not Less" Main Benign n

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: PEIRCE-L] "More Pragmatism, Not Less"

2014-10-12 Thread Phyllis Chiasson
Correction: The benign neglect. Thing Did not belong with the rest of my comments. Phyllis Chiasson wrote: > >Main > >Benign neglect was a policy proposed in 1969 by Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who >was at the time on Nixon's White House Staff as an urban affairs adviser. > >I see the problem of

[PEIRCE-L] Re: PEIRCE-L] "More Pragmatism, Not Less"

2014-10-12 Thread Phyllis Chiasson
Main Benign neglect was a policy proposed in 1969 by Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who was at the time on Nixon's White House Staff as an urban affairs adviser. I see the problem of wars in the way I see the problem of dandelions. I admit that I feel a sort of visceral hatred of dandelions. I want