Aw: Re: Fwd: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Seeing Things : What Makes An Object?

2015-10-27 Thread Helmut Raulien
  You are right: It is random, i.e. meaningless. I had not focused on "meaning", but on "representation" (thirdness): I thought it was representation, because there is both an immediate and a dynamical object. But, as there is no meaning transmitted, it is nor real thirdness neither real

Re: Re: Fwd: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Seeing Things : What Makes An Object?

2015-10-27 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Randomness can hardly be meaningless if it also implies chance which for Peirce mean First. I suppose I am missing something. Usually do. "... chance ... a mathematical term to express with accuracy the characteristics of freedom or spontaneity." Peirce: CP 6.202 Books http://buff.ly/15GfdqU

Re: Aw: Fwd: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Seeing Things : What Makes An Object?

2015-10-26 Thread Thomas
Helmut, List ~ "A photon hits an atom: The photon and the atom (tokens) are the immediate object, the hitting event is the representamen, the effect (electron jumps to a higher orbit) is the interpretant ..." Why did the photon hit the atom? The collision ('hitting event') is the

Aw: Fwd: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Seeing Things : What Makes An Object?

2015-10-26 Thread Helmut Raulien
      Sung, List, And is a physical interaction a triadic Sign? Eg: A photon hits an atom: The photon and the atom (tokens) are the immediate object, the hitting event is the representamen, the effect (electron jumps to a higher orbit) is the interpretant, and the types "photon" and "atom"

Aw: Fwd: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Seeing Things : What Makes An Object?

2015-10-26 Thread Helmut Raulien
Sung, List, And is a physical interaction a triadic Sign? Eg: A photon hits an atom: The photon and the atom (tokens) are the immediate object, the hitting event is the representamen, the effect (electron jumps to a higher orbit) is the interpretant, and the types "photon" and "atom" are the

Fwd: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Seeing Things : What Makes An Object?

2015-10-25 Thread Sungchul Ji
Hi, Correction: Please change " . . . dyadic communications cannot lead to any communication." in my previous post to ". . .dyadic interactions cannot lead to any communication." Thanks. Sung -- Forwarded message -- From: Sungchul Ji Date: Sun, Oct