: [biosemiotics:7087] Fwd: [PEIRCE-L] Example of Dicisign?
Gary F., Tom, list,
Gary, are you sure you're not confusing denotation with designation or
indication? The denotation of 'red' is all red things, or the population of red
things; the comprehension (or significance) of 'red' is the quality
This is crucial for understanding the syntax of the dicisign, which is
the subject of NP 3.7.
gary f.
From: Benjamin Udell
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Re: [biosemiotics:7087] Fwd: [PEIRCE-L] Example of Dicisign?
Gary F., Tom, list,
Gary, are you sure
Ben, lists,
OK, let me put it this way: a rheme can “denote” a range of possibilities — but
only if it is a symbol. Same goes for a predicate, which is symbolic by virtue
of being a necessary part of a proposition, which is a symbol (and by virtue of
being verbal). To elaborate on this,
Tom, I’m afraid you’re adding to the confusion here by talking about “two kinds
of denotation.”
In a proposition, the subject denotes objects, while the predicate signifies
characters. This is what Peirce is saying in your quote from “Kaina Stoicheia”
(MS 517), and it’s the standard
Gary F., Tom, list,
Gary, are you sure you're not confusing denotation with designation or
indication? The denotation of 'red' is all red things, or the population
of red things; the comprehension (or significance) of 'red' is the
quality _/red/ _ and all that that implies. That's why
Gary and list,
A does signify B in the first part of the quote. That's what I took as the
operational sense. But in the second part of the quote it says:
If a sign, A, only denotes real objects that are a part or the whole
of the objects denoted by another sign, B, then A is said to be a
