Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-25 Thread Gary Richmond
Helmut, list, I have to run off to a very busy late afternoon/evening soon, but wanted to quickly respond to your post. You wrote: HR: I think, the presyllable "idio" has had a bad connotation to me due to the word "idiot", which was the reason for my quibbling, but I´ve looked it up, and it

Aw: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-24 Thread Helmut Raulien
Gary, List, I think, the presyllable "idio" has had a bad connotation to me due to the word "idiot", which was the reason for my quibbling, but I´ve looked it up, and it does not only mean "merely self-related", but also "special". Still, by the way you put it:   " Similarly, cenoscopic

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-24 Thread Gary Richmond
Helmut, list, You wrote: "Maybe I have had the wrong concept about idioscopy: I thought that it was observing phenomena without connecting them to cenoscopy such as semiotics/logic." I think you have the "observing phenomena" part of idioscopy right but, as I understand it, not the "without

Aw: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-24 Thread Helmut Raulien
Gary List, Maybe I have  had the wrong concept about idioscopy: I thought that it was observing phenomena without connecting them to cenoscopy such as semiotics/logic. Best, Helmut    22. Januar 2018 um 23:24 Uhr Von: "Gary Richmond"   Helmut, list,   You wrote: 

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-22 Thread Gary Richmond
Helmut, list, You wrote: If biology is idioscopic, and semiotics is cenoscopic, then, just following the rules of linguistics, which in my understanding say that the first half of a double-word is a restriction, but not a modification, of the second half, I would say, that biosemiotics is

Aw: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-22 Thread Helmut Raulien
Gary, List, If biology is idioscopic, and semiotics is cenoscopic, then, just following the rules of linguistics, which in my understanding say that the first half of a double-word is a restriction, but not a modification, of the second half, I would say, that biosemiotics is cenoscopic, and

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Biosemiosis (was Lowell Lecture 3.12

2018-01-22 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Jon - you have used those terms before- therefore, it is irrelevant that you haven't used them in the current thread. And I disagree that forbidding such terms as 'unPeircean' and 'more/less legitimate' would block 'the