[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8508] Re: Natural Propositions,

2015-04-28 Thread Howard Pattee
At 05:18 AM 4/28/2015, Frederik Stjernfelt wrote: [snip] - Dicisigns - applies to biosemiotics as well. To me, this forms part of a naturalization of semiotics. But, simultaneously, a naturalization which takes generalities such as empirical universals as well as mathematics/logic as parts of

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8508] Re: Natural Propositions,

2015-04-28 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
Dear Howard, lists - Den 28/04/2015 kl. 12.44 skrev Howard Pattee hpat...@roadrunner.commailto:hpat...@roadrunner.com At 05:18 AM 4/28/2015, Frederik Stjernfelt wrote: [snip] - Dicisigns - applies to biosemiotics as well. To me, this forms part of a naturalization of semiotics. But,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8508] Re: Natural Propositions,

2015-04-28 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
Dear Howard, lists, Den 28/04/2015 kl. 14.47 skrev Howard Pattee hpat...@roadrunner.commailto:hpat...@roadrunner.com : At 07:04 AM 4/28/2015, Frederik Stjernfelt wrote: [Howard's] questions about your view: (1) What parts of nature do you include in naturalization of semiotics? I am not sure I

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8508] Re: Natural Propositions,

2015-04-28 Thread Sungchul Ji
Frederik, Howard, Lists, Frederik answered By the first semiosis to Howard's question, When in the history of the universe do you say the *first proposition* occurs? Frederik, can you speculate on what you think was the first semiosis like ? Would you agree that whatever it was, it must have