Re: [peirce-l] Slow Read: Is Peirce a Phenomenologist? part 5

2011-07-18 Thread Stephen C. Rose
to phenomenology) would relate to thought about this vague thing and would look more like the second. A reaction. That could still make Pierce among many other (some prior) things a phenomenologist. There now, in Rem's diction, I've said too much. Stephen C. Rose On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Gary

Re: [peirce-l] Slow Read: Is Peirce a Phenomenologist? - Concept of category?

2011-07-22 Thread Stephen C. Rose
As a non-academic writer and editor I agree. One term cannot fit all. Best, S Stephen C. Rose *My Associated Contenthttp://www.associatedcontent.com/user/815562/stephen_c_rose.html * On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Jerry LR Chandler jerry_lr_chand...@me.com wrote: List: The recent

Re: [peirce-l] Slow Read: Teleology and the Autonomy of the Semiosis Process

2011-08-04 Thread Stephen C. Rose
As a lifetime generalist communicator with always much to learn and amend, I find this a salient bit of advice to any and all. I mean the part about being aware of ones own fallibility and further taking to heart what it signifies if one does not take the community as the rationale for

Re: [peirce-l] Peirce and Hölderlin

2011-09-18 Thread Stephen C. Rose
I think CP evidences a certain mild disdain toward the transcendentalists and is not much enamored of Emerson, not to the extent that Nietzsche was for example. I probably could reference this if it is not generally agreed that this is the case. Cheers, S *ShortFormContent at Blogger*

Re: [peirce-l] Sciences as Communicational Communities -- Academic Capitalism

2011-09-30 Thread Stephen C. Rose
As a confirmed long-term exile from academia and professional existence, I see Peirce as a role model for nomads of the universe - he might pluralize universe. I think the best thing Peirce-inclined academics can do is demonstrate in readable prose - as here of late - ways Peirce anticipated

Re: [peirce-l] intelligent slaves

2011-10-05 Thread Stephen C. Rose
. ** ** Gene ** ** ** ** *From:* C S Peirce discussion list [mailto:PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Stephen C. Rose *Sent:* Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:31 PM *To:* PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU *Subject:* Re: [peirce-l] intelligent slaves ** ** Let me

Re: [peirce-l] Occupy Evolution

2011-10-16 Thread Stephen C. Rose
I assume drawing from the same text that this is CSP's considered conclusion, wherewith he trumps these seductive notions in his defense of sentimentality. (Dorry the quote seems to wish to narrow itself a bit.) * Here, then, is the issue. The gospel of Christ says that progress comes from

[peirce-l] Popularizing Peirce

2011-10-18 Thread Stephen C. Rose
I would be interested in reactions to my various efforts to popularize or apply the thinking ogf CSP to ongoing events. I am not looking so much for reactions to my opinions or POV as the question of how a figure like Peirce comes to influence events and whether and how the process inevitably

Re: [peirce-l] SLOW READ: THE RELEVANCE OF PEIRCEAN SEMIOTIC TO COMPUTATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AUGMENTATION

2011-12-16 Thread Stephen C. Rose
I shall with fear and trembling venture a short explanation of the movement to cyberfy the world. It signaled the end, bitter and ongoing, of oil and the car. The PC became the new car, with requisite lingo about speed and so forth. And availability to all. It was a market force toward the

Re: [peirce-l] Knowledge Workers of the World, Unite !

2012-02-04 Thread Stephen C. Rose
For what it may be worth, else ignore. I have just started Peter's book which is now 30 years old which seems young to me as most of mine were published before the 80's. I want to make what may be a cliched observation or a simplistic one. It seems to me we would do well to frame (at least)

Re: [peirce-l] Knowledge Workers of the World, Unite !

2012-02-06 Thread Stephen C. Rose
** ** *From:* C S Peirce discussion list [mailto:PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Stephen C. Rose *Sent:* Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:24 PM *To:* PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU *Subject:* Re: [peirce-l] Knowledge Workers of the World, Unite ! ** ** For what it may be worth

[peirce-l] Poem

2012-02-22 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Would this qualify as a Peircean poem? How about no war in Iran http://ping.fm/kCcFs *ShortFormContent at Blogger* http://shortformcontent.blogspot.com/ - You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [peirce-l] Poem

2012-02-22 Thread Stephen C. Rose
The main thing that interests me is whether this simple appropriation of Peirce - as one to whom we can refer powerful arguments against binary (you versus me) thinking and for triadic thought (always tending toward a positive resolution even if it takes try after try) - is important to advance.

Re: [peirce-l] Mathematical terminology, was, review of Moore's Peirce edition

2012-03-02 Thread Stephen C. Rose
1. Hypothesis (Abduction) 2. Induction 3. Deduction But isn't it also the case that we can mix firsts, seconds and thirds if we think it appropriate. As in Terms Propositions Symbols. Best, S *ShortFormContent at Blogger* http://shortformcontent.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Mar 2,

[peirce-l] Have you ever heard of Charles Sanders Peirce?

2012-03-06 Thread Stephen C. Rose
I asked this question on Quora. It then occured to me that folk here might want to weigh in. Quora is an interesting venture based entirely on answering questions. Here's the url for the CSP question - http://www.quora.com/Have-you-ever-heard-of-Charles-Sanders-Peirce *ShortFormContent at

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism

2012-03-22 Thread Stephen C. Rose
If the way history is made is through willed values, those values were there before we were. They are ontological. I think the confusion in Peirce is his relegation of ethics to the aesthetic. Kierkegaard did a similar thing when he essentially sidelined the ethical. I muse that the semiotic realm

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism

2012-03-22 Thread Stephen C. Rose
It seems to me that if there is a conflict between nominalism and realism/idealism which plays out in history that it is important to delve deeper. Peirce made spiritual or transcendent or musement matters subject to experiment - human progress had to be real. Where I think I disagree is in not

Re: [peirce-l] Book Review: Peirce and the Threat of Nominalism

2012-03-23 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Here is a somewhat corrected version of my reply to Terry. Best, S I have little place for ethics in such a system as I have. I see ethics as secondary to the willed application of values to the making of decisions. To me the question is what are the ontological values. My pragmatic answer came

Re: [peirce-l] Peirce-L's ends

2012-03-26 Thread Stephen C. Rose
What is currently working well on the list? What, if anything, could be improved? If we should promote it, it would help to have a paragraph with succinct directions that all could use. I have been very impressed with the quality of posts and the civility here. What are our goals with this

[peirce-l] Peirce for a wider audience

2012-03-27 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Here is an example: Fallibilism applies to both scientists and religionists http://ping.fm/a5wzV *ShortFormContent at Blogger* http://shortformcontent.blogspot.com/ - You are receiving this message because you are

Re: [peirce-l] The Pragmatic Cosmos

2012-03-27 Thread Stephen C. Rose
I am waiting for the day when values replaces ethics as a base term for discussing morality and, if a hierarchy is pertinent, when ontological values would be right up there wherever thought (musement) begins. I think we have confused virtues and characteristics with values from the gitgo. (See

Re: [peirce-l] Fw: [peirce-l] PEIRCE QUOTATION FROM JOHN DEELY LOCATION

2012-04-25 Thread Stephen C. Rose
The wonders of Google, Commens Peirce Dictionary: Thirdness, Third [as a category]http://www.helsinki.fi/science/commens/terms/thirdness.html: Thirdness, Third [as a category] (see also Firstness, Secondness, Categories) Careful analysis shows that to the three grades of valency of

Re: [peirce-l] Fw: [peirce-l] Fw: [peirce-l] PEIRCE QUOTATION FROM JOHN DEELY LOCATION

2012-04-26 Thread Stephen C. Rose
in this matter. Therefore I raise another question: “Does Peirce raise a distinct separation between the human being as the only linguistic animal, and if so, where, and if not, where?” - Gary C. Moore - Forwarded Message - *From:* Stephen C. Rose

Re: [peirce-l] PEIRCE QUOTATION FROM JOHN DEELY LOCATION, now Nietzsche

2012-04-30 Thread Stephen C. Rose
/jamesivanporter/articles and http://www.amazon.com/Nietzsche-Philology-Future-James-Porter/dp/0804736987/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1335769347sr=1-1 Regards, Gary Moore *From:* Stephen C. Rose stever...@gmail.com *To:* Gary Moore gottlos752...@yahoo.com *Cc:* PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU PEIRCE-L

Re: [peirce-l] Not Preserving Peirce

2012-05-02 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Isn't there someone who could assemble from the many good contributions to the list a short book designed for reading beyond academe that would be aimed at rectifying each area in which Peirce has unrecognized prominence, importance, panache, whatever? I am sure the answer is yes. It could even

Re: [peirce-l] Not Preserving Peirce

2012-05-02 Thread Stephen C. Rose
being, it may turn up that it will be, later on. So lack of immediate response does not mean your idea was not good. - Which was the case with Peirce's unrecognized ideas just as well:) Best, Kirsti On 2.5.2012, at 22.45, Stephen C. Rose wrote: Isn't there someone who could assemble from