Re: [PEIRCE-L] Representamen Discussion

2018-02-08 Thread Mary Libertin
Dan and Peircers, I agree with Dan’s proposal to consider “the practical/empirical consequences C.S. intended each definition to have.” I’m not sure I can attempt that. The complications shown are interesting but above my pay grade. Instead I would like to offer what went through my mind when I f

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Representamen Discussion

2018-02-08 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Mary, List: Fascinating responses like yours and Stephen R.'s bring to my mind Peirce's comment, "Different people have such wonderfully different ways of thinking" (CP 6.462, EP 2:437; 1908). Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Lay

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Representamen Discussion

2018-02-08 Thread Everett, Daniel
Thanks, Mary. In fact there is a long tradition in lexicography that the meanings of a word are the contexts in which it is used. And though we want to be as precise as we can be about our understanding of Charlie’s writings, there is a fine line between that and engaging in unresolvable debate

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Representamen Discussion

2018-02-08 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Dan, List: Your point continues to be well-taken. At the same time, Peirce sharply cautioned against allowing practical considerations to govern over theoretical ones within philosophy or any other science of discovery, since that might wrongly block the way of inquiry (cf. CP 1.619, EP 2:29; 189

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Representamen Discussion

2018-02-08 Thread Gary Richmond
Mary, list, I hope that your spouse feels much better soon. Thanks for this illuminating post! I was drafting one myself, but will now have to reconsider it in light of your questions. I add just one more question for now to pair with your "Is it a translation?" What if the person seeing that wor

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Representamen Discussion

2018-02-08 Thread Jerry Rhee
.. and let us not neglect the notion that 'truth' has a bearing on anything whatsoever. Best, J On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Gary Richmond wrote: > Mary, list, > > I hope that your spouse feels much better soon. > > Thanks for this illuminating post! I was drafting one myself, but will now >

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2018-02-08 Thread Gary Richmond
Jeff, Jon S, Edwina, Gary f, Helmut, list, I agree with Jon S that there is value in theoretical as well as practical (pragmatic) analyses of the Sign and pragmaticism more generally. While, as I noted in a post of a few days ago, it would seem that we have been concentrating on the theoretical mu

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2018-02-08 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary R., List: I am currently trying out in my own mind defining the Immediate Object as the *partial *combination of attributes of the Dynamic Object by which the Sign *denotes *it. It is partial because (as you said) knowing the DO in its fullness is an impossibility. It does not *itself *pred

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Representamen Discussion

2018-02-08 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }As usual - I have a different outline. I think there are multiple Signs involved. I understand the Sign as: DO-[IO-R-DI]...and often DI. That's the basic format. 1. Child touches hot stove: Rhematic Iconic Qualisi