Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] The failure of Intelligent Design

2018-05-11 Thread Stephen C. Rose
There is no necessity to use traditional metaphysical language to substantiate what Jon has suggested. Stephen asks interesting questions. I submit that we render to Mystery the inference that there is a reason for all that is and that we are not wrong to assume that intelligence is involved. In

[PEIRCE-L] The failure of Intelligent Design

2018-05-11 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Jon Alan, list: If one is, unlike you, not a theist, then, your answers don't provide any rationale for 'the nature of existence'. Your assertion that one simply has to accept the 'reality of god' is a Fixation

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] The failure of Intelligent Design

2018-05-11 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Stephen J., List: I have no desire (and no time these days) to engage in a debate here, but ... SJ: I don’t understand what insights a creator/designer provides as to the nature of existence. Why is there existence at all? Why is there something, rather than nothing? Peirce's answer was

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The failure of Intelligent Design

2018-05-11 Thread Gary Richmond
Edwina, list, Thank you for getting the discussion of Intelligent Design, etc. into the Peirce list proper (that is, *only*). Ben Udell and I, as well as the technical staff at IUPUI, have not yet found a way to stop the automatic forwarding to our forum of messages sent by Sadhu Sanga members

RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] The failure of Intelligent Design

2018-05-11 Thread Stephen Jarosek
JAS, list JAS >”I have no desire (and no time these days) to engage in a debate here, but ...” Given that it is beneath you to engage in debate, JAS, then we conclude that you are trolling, and not really interested in an answer. So my following reply is not directed at you, but to those who

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] The failure of Intelligent Design

2018-05-11 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Stephen J., List: I have never been accused of trolling before, but I guess there is a first time for everything. In any case, since I am not a member of Sadhu Sanga, my reply to that address was immediately rejected, such that your responses are all that anyone else on that list will ever see.