[PEN-L:8223] Re: Apologies for posting to everyone

1997-01-13 Thread Laurence Shute
Friends, My apologies for posting my reply to Michael Yates to everyone. It's late and I'm tired. Larry Shute

[PEN-L:8223] Re: Apologies for posting to everyone

1997-01-13 Thread Laurence Shute
Friends, My apologies for posting my reply to Michael Yates to everyone. It's late and I'm tired. Larry Shute

[PEN-L:8222] Re: speaking engagements

1997-01-13 Thread Laurence Shute
Hello Michael, We would be very interested in having you come to the Calif State Polytechnic Univ., Pomona. Unfortunately, our school is on the quarter system and we don't start until late September. I am presently chair of the Faculty Senate, but next year I may be the President of the l

[PEN-L:8222] Re: speaking engagements

1997-01-13 Thread Laurence Shute
Hello Michael, We would be very interested in having you come to the Calif State Polytechnic Univ., Pomona. Unfortunately, our school is on the quarter system and we don't start until late September. I am presently chair of the Faculty Senate, but next year I may be the President of the l

[PEN-L:8221] Re: social security question

1997-01-13 Thread Doug Henwood
At 5:49 PM 1/13/97, Michael Perelman wrote: >Would moving social security funds to the stock market raise the cost of >government borrowing or would current equity holders just shift some of >their funds back to the bond market? What government borrowing? Clinton and Congress have both pledged t

[PEN-L:8221] Re: social security question

1997-01-13 Thread Doug Henwood
At 5:49 PM 1/13/97, Michael Perelman wrote: >Would moving social security funds to the stock market raise the cost of >government borrowing or would current equity holders just shift some of >their funds back to the bond market? What government borrowing? Clinton and Congress have both pledged t

[PEN-L:8220] The Turmoil In The Capitalist Economy And Society - What Is It

1997-01-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
One of the features of the capitalist economy is its destructive nature. The capitalist economy carries on the destruction of the productive forces uninterruptedly. It puts an all-round brake on their development. The greatest productive force in the capitalist economy is the working class.

[PEN-L:8220] The Turmoil In The Capitalist Economy And Society - What Is It

1997-01-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
One of the features of the capitalist economy is its destructive nature. The capitalist economy carries on the destruction of the productive forces uninterruptedly. It puts an all-round brake on their development. The greatest productive force in the capitalist economy is the working class.

[PEN-L:8219] social security question

1997-01-13 Thread Michael Perelman
Would moving social security funds to the stock market raise the cost of government borrowing or would current equity holders just shift some of their funds back to the bond market? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 916-898-5321 E-Mail [EM

[PEN-L:8219] social security question

1997-01-13 Thread Michael Perelman
Would moving social security funds to the stock market raise the cost of government borrowing or would current equity holders just shift some of their funds back to the bond market? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 916-898-5321 E-Mail [EM

[PEN-L:8218] The Wrecking Activity Of Imperialism And All Reaction

1997-01-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
A study of the conditions as they prevail on the world scale shows that the main content of the present counter-revolution is the all- sided pressure to "liquidate" i.e. get rid of, whatever positive achievements have been made by modern society. This attack takes the form of the anti-social offe

[PEN-L:8218] The Wrecking Activity Of Imperialism And All Reaction

1997-01-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
A study of the conditions as they prevail on the world scale shows that the main content of the present counter-revolution is the all- sided pressure to "liquidate" i.e. get rid of, whatever positive achievements have been made by modern society. This attack takes the form of the anti-social offe

[PEN-L:8217] Re: Without Modern Communism The Workers And

1997-01-13 Thread blairs
>Third, the principle, "From each according to his abilities, to each >according to his work," is socialist. The principle, "From each >according to his abilities, to each according to his needs," is Communist. >This is quite well-known. It's also sexist. The personal pronoun is entirely unneces

[PEN-L:8217] Re: Without Modern Communism The Workers And

1997-01-13 Thread blairs
>Third, the principle, "From each according to his abilities, to each >according to his work," is socialist. The principle, "From each >according to his abilities, to each according to his needs," is Communist. >This is quite well-known. It's also sexist. The personal pronoun is entirely unneces

[PEN-L:8216] Re: Without Modern Communism The Workers And

1997-01-13 Thread blairs
>If we could have a system without exploitation >of any individual or group of individuals by another, and with everyone >living off their own work, the whole of mankind would be emancipated. "Everyone living off their own work?" But this is socialism, not communism, according to the previous par

[PEN-L:8216] Re: Without Modern Communism The Workers And

1997-01-13 Thread blairs
>If we could have a system without exploitation >of any individual or group of individuals by another, and with everyone >living off their own work, the whole of mankind would be emancipated. "Everyone living off their own work?" But this is socialism, not communism, according to the previous par

[PEN-L:8215] RE: Marx on interest rates

1997-01-13 Thread blairs
>At 10:13 AM 1/13/97, DICKENS, EDWIN (201)-408-3024 wrote: > >>I'm skeptical, but open to >>anyone who wants to try and resolve the issue by constructing >>an index of the relative strengths of financial and >>industrial capital. > >While I'd never go so far as Hilferding and argue that they've be

[PEN-L:8215] RE: Marx on interest rates

1997-01-13 Thread blairs
>At 10:13 AM 1/13/97, DICKENS, EDWIN (201)-408-3024 wrote: > >>I'm skeptical, but open to >>anyone who wants to try and resolve the issue by constructing >>an index of the relative strengths of financial and >>industrial capital. > >While I'd never go so far as Hilferding and argue that they've be

[PEN-L:8214] Re: long waves, etc.

1997-01-13 Thread Laurie Dougherty
I am no expert on long waves but I think it makes sense that regimes of technology and work organization have a pattern of rise and fall. I don't see any reason why the periodicity should be of any set frequency or amplitude because as Barkley Rosser (I think) and Maggie Coleman said, there ar

[PEN-L:8214] Re: long waves, etc.

1997-01-13 Thread Laurie Dougherty
I am no expert on long waves but I think it makes sense that regimes of technology and work organization have a pattern of rise and fall. I don't see any reason why the periodicity should be of any set frequency or amplitude because as Barkley Rosser (I think) and Maggie Coleman said, there ar

[PEN-L:8213] Re: Without Modern Communism The Workers And People

1997-01-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Robert Malecki wrote: > Shawgi wrote; > >The answer to your question "What is Modern Communism?" is contained in > >the original post. If you have a more specific question, feel free to ask > > Sorry, But I am rather new to the list and seem to have missed the original >

[PEN-L:8213] Re: Without Modern Communism The Workers And People

1997-01-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Robert Malecki wrote: > Shawgi wrote; > >The answer to your question "What is Modern Communism?" is contained in > >the original post. If you have a more specific question, feel free to ask > > Sorry, But I am rather new to the list and seem to have missed the original >

[PEN-L:8212] re: Marx and interest rates

1997-01-13 Thread JDevine
Tom Dickens writes: >>I think there is a good reason why Marx did not have a complete theory of the interest rate--namely, Marx's initial results prompted him to postpone further consideration of the issue until he got to his planned book on the state.<< Also, his stuff on interest rates is mo

[PEN-L:8212] re: Marx and interest rates

1997-01-13 Thread JDevine
Tom Dickens writes: >>I think there is a good reason why Marx did not have a complete theory of the interest rate--namely, Marx's initial results prompted him to postpone further consideration of the issue until he got to his planned book on the state.<< Also, his stuff on interest rates is mo

[PEN-L:8211] Re: long waves addenda

1997-01-13 Thread PBurns
Rosser Jr, John Barkley informs us: 3) One reason for the current interest in Kondratiev in Russia is that he was verboten for a long time. He was an ally of Bukharin's in the planning debates of the 1920s, worked in the Vesenkha and supported the NEP and was executed during the Stal

[PEN-L:8211] Re: long waves addenda

1997-01-13 Thread PBurns
Rosser Jr, John Barkley informs us: 3) One reason for the current interest in Kondratiev in Russia is that he was verboten for a long time. He was an ally of Bukharin's in the planning debates of the 1920s, worked in the Vesenkha and supported the NEP and was executed during the Stal

[PEN-L:8210] RE: Marx on interest rates

1997-01-13 Thread Doug Henwood
At 10:13 AM 1/13/97, DICKENS, EDWIN (201)-408-3024 wrote: >I'm skeptical, but open to >anyone who wants to try and resolve the issue by constructing >an index of the relative strengths of financial and >industrial capital. While I'd never go so far as Hilferding and argue that they've become one

[PEN-L:8210] RE: Marx on interest rates

1997-01-13 Thread Doug Henwood
At 10:13 AM 1/13/97, DICKENS, EDWIN (201)-408-3024 wrote: >I'm skeptical, but open to >anyone who wants to try and resolve the issue by constructing >an index of the relative strengths of financial and >industrial capital. While I'd never go so far as Hilferding and argue that they've become one

[PEN-L:8209] Re: Without Modern Communism The Workers And People

1997-01-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
Bob, here is the original post. There is no other post. This is the only one dealing explicitly with Modern Communism. Now, as for your question, "What is Modern Communism?", the answer, as I've already indicated, is contained in the post, in the second paragraph. If you need elaboration,

[PEN-L:8209] Re: Without Modern Communism The Workers And People

1997-01-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
Bob, here is the original post. There is no other post. This is the only one dealing explicitly with Modern Communism. Now, as for your question, "What is Modern Communism?", the answer, as I've already indicated, is contained in the post, in the second paragraph. If you need elaboration,

[PEN-L:8208] RE: Marx on interest rates

1997-01-13 Thread Gerald Levy
DICKENS, EDWIN wrote: > I think there is a good reason why Marx did not have a complete > theory of the interest rate--namely, Marx's initial results > prompted him to postpone further consideration of the issue > until he got to his planned book on the state. > After abandoning his initial effo

[PEN-L:8208] RE: Marx on interest rates

1997-01-13 Thread Gerald Levy
DICKENS, EDWIN wrote: > I think there is a good reason why Marx did not have a complete > theory of the interest rate--namely, Marx's initial results > prompted him to postpone further consideration of the issue > until he got to his planned book on the state. > After abandoning his initial effo

[PEN-L:8207] RE: Marx on interest rates

1997-01-13 Thread DICKENS, EDWIN (201)-408-3024
Doug Henwood writes: >Well, Tom, what do you think Marx's theory of interest rate >determination was? I think there is a good reason why Marx did not have a complete theory of the interest rate--namely, Marx's initial results prompted him to postpone further consideration of the issue until he g

[PEN-L:8207] RE: Marx on interest rates

1997-01-13 Thread DICKENS, EDWIN (201)-408-3024
Doug Henwood writes: >Well, Tom, what do you think Marx's theory of interest rate >determination was? I think there is a good reason why Marx did not have a complete theory of the interest rate--namely, Marx's initial results prompted him to postpone further consideration of the issue until he g

Re: [PEN-L:8197] Econometric Advice for Novice

1997-01-13 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 05:26 PM 1/12/97 -0800, you wrote: >Dear Comrades >For reasons to unpleasant to mention I have been forced to turn my >attention from the esoteric world of regulation school methodology to the >more prosaic topic of the minimum wage. >This involves a brush with the empirical for which I am il

Re: [PEN-L:8197] Econometric Advice for Novice

1997-01-13 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 05:26 PM 1/12/97 -0800, you wrote: >Dear Comrades >For reasons to unpleasant to mention I have been forced to turn my >attention from the esoteric world of regulation school methodology to the >more prosaic topic of the minimum wage. >This involves a brush with the empirical for which I am il

[PEN-L:8206] Re: Fwd: Re: long waves -- and a

1997-01-13 Thread Marshall Feldman
>Amplifying on Maggie's comments, the cotton gin changed things overnight >because it did not require any substantial changes in other parts of the >production system. Electricity took decades to affect productivity >substantially because the mills were fitted out to take power from a >central s

[PEN-L:8206] Re: Fwd: Re: long waves -- and a

1997-01-13 Thread Marshall Feldman
>Amplifying on Maggie's comments, the cotton gin changed things overnight >because it did not require any substantial changes in other parts of the >production system. Electricity took decades to affect productivity >substantially because the mills were fitted out to take power from a >central s

[PEN-L:8205] Re: long waves -- and a better qu

1997-01-13 Thread Marshall Feldman
To answer Doug's question, Schumpeter distinguished between inventions (technological discoveries/ applications) and innovations (commercially viable applications). Mensch, among others, elaborates on this and argues that a technology can be around for some time before it becomes the basis for a

[PEN-L:8205] Re: long waves -- and a better qu

1997-01-13 Thread Marshall Feldman
To answer Doug's question, Schumpeter distinguished between inventions (technological discoveries/ applications) and innovations (commercially viable applications). Mensch, among others, elaborates on this and argues that a technology can be around for some time before it becomes the basis for a

[PEN-L:8204] long waves addenda

1997-01-13 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
A couple of brief further notes: 1) Gerhard Mensch's book was originally published in 1975. 2) The new Edward Elgar volume is very comprehensive, an excellent source, especially with the inclusion of the newly translated "Springflood" by van Gelderen. 3) One reason for th

[PEN-L:8204] long waves addenda

1997-01-13 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
A couple of brief further notes: 1) Gerhard Mensch's book was originally published in 1975. 2) The new Edward Elgar volume is very comprehensive, an excellent source, especially with the inclusion of the newly translated "Springflood" by van Gelderen. 3) One reason for th

[PEN-L:8203] "Bread & Work Alliance" Forms to Fight Welfare "Deform'/March 1st Rally

1997-01-13 Thread Nathan Newman
For More Information, call: (510) 649-8173 BREAD AND WORK ALLIANCE FORMS TO FIGHT FOR JOBS AND THE RIGHT TO FOOD FOR ALL -- March 1st Rally and Marches planned nationwide Determined not only to fight the recently enacted welfare "deform" law but to take the

[PEN-L:8203] "Bread & Work Alliance" Forms to Fight Welfare "Deform'/March 1st Rally

1997-01-13 Thread Nathan Newman
For More Information, call: (510) 649-8173 BREAD AND WORK ALLIANCE FORMS TO FIGHT FOR JOBS AND THE RIGHT TO FOOD FOR ALL -- March 1st Rally and Marches planned nationwide Determined not only to fight the recently enacted welfare "deform" law but to take the

[PEN-L:8202] British reports on CIA/Crack?

1997-01-13 Thread R. Anders Schneiderman
Has anyone seen reports in __The Independent_ or _The Big Story_ about the CIA, Contras, and crack? Our local alternative weekly reports that they ran a great story whose bottom line was, "The CIT actively encouraged drug trafficking in order to fund right-wing contra rebels in Nicaragua during t

[PEN-L:8202] British reports on CIA/Crack?

1997-01-13 Thread R. Anders Schneiderman
Has anyone seen reports in __The Independent_ or _The Big Story_ about the CIA, Contras, and crack? Our local alternative weekly reports that they ran a great story whose bottom line was, "The CIT actively encouraged drug trafficking in order to fund right-wing contra rebels in Nicaragua during t

[PEN-L:8201] speaking engagements

1997-01-13 Thread MIKEY
Dear friends, I will be on a leave from the first of May until the end of December. I am interested in moving around the country, meeting activists and perhaps speaking. I will be on the West Coast in September for sure. I have given many talks to college groups and union groups. I know th

[PEN-L:8201] speaking engagements

1997-01-13 Thread MIKEY
Dear friends, I will be on a leave from the first of May until the end of December. I am interested in moving around the country, meeting activists and perhaps speaking. I will be on the West Coast in September for sure. I have given many talks to college groups and union groups. I know th