Jim Devine wrote:
I contribute too many missives to pen-l
Not!
and I'm no expert on urban
development. What do others on pen-l think? Should LA subsidize an NFL team
to locate here? Is it a good idea for other cities to do so? Does it
promote the _type_ of development we want? Should the
I think it would be hard to find any major European thinker before the
twentieth century who did not write vile racist claptrap. Marx may have
been better than some, but his comment (whose cite I can't recall at the
moment) about the "abundance" of the tropics inducing sloth and being
Doug Henwood wrote:
I'm thinking of doing an article on the rise to dominance of
right-wing thought in economics social policy in the 1970s. Any
PEN-Lers have any thoughts, reminiscences, etc.? Did Milton
Friedman's presidency at the AEA mark some kind of turning point?
In the
William S. Lear wrote:
Since when is Chomsky a defender of Cartesian dualism? He has stated
that since nobody has a definite conception of "body", even posing the
problem is impossible.
I think you are partly right. What Chomsky means by "Cartesian dualism"
is different from the meaning
But it's a straightforward technical exercise to show that they aren't
Peter
Yep.
Ken Hanly wrote:
COMMENT: But this confirms my point doesn't it? Isn't it a core
assumption of neoclassical economists that it is impossible to make
interpersonal comparisons of utility? Am I wrong in thinking that? Isn't
it standard that among most that only cardinal rankings of utility by
Doesn't the process of comparing differences in ordinal rankings bring
cardinal rankings back into the function, thereby violating the
noncardinality condition?
Yep. But ya gotta do it, one way or another...
Brad DeLong
I wrote: We should be careful here. After all, just because imperialist
spokescreeps are against something doesn't mean that we should be in favor
of it. Those folks were right to oppose the Khmer Rouge for awhile (while
they were wrong to support them for an even longer period). The enemy of my
As one who is old enough to have been active politically at the time, I can
confirm Max's version. Take a look at the many left newspapers that were
being produced at that time. The connection was made and the criticism of
the main stream press for ignoring Jackson was prominent.
New York Times
June 29, 1999
Among U.S. Donations, Tons of Worthless Drugs
By Reed Abelson
Last month, Project Hope, the American medical charity, shipped $1.5
million worth of emergency supplies to the Kosovo refugees. But relief
workers desperate for syringes, penicillin and insulin found many
"Max B. Sawicky" wrote:
The idea of any 'treason' is ridiculous. "Kent State" is
the TIME magazine reconstruction. At the time, the left
was quite anxious to make the Kent-Jackson connection.
I hope Max is right and I am wrong. It would bode better for
the future.
Carrol
On Wednesday, June 30, 1999 at 20:54:51 (-0500) Ken Hanly writes:
I don't recall Chomsky defending Descartes' division between material
and mental substance as the two basic substances, but he does defend a
version of Descartes' doctrine of innate ideas in "Cartesian
Linguistics" and elsewhere.
Louis wrote:
The issue is ECONOMICS. Milosevic wasn't ready to turn over the
keys to the
country to western banks. I am surprised that PEN-L'ers have done so little
to dig into this question. Except for Paul Phillips who has a vested
professional interest in Yugoslavia from what I can
I don't recall Chomsky defending Descartes' division between material and mental
substance as the two basic substances, but he does defend a version of Descartes'
doctrine of innate ideas
in "Cartesian Linguistics" and elsewhere. So he does owe a debt to Descartes that
he freely acknowledges.
I am Asian, from Hong Kong, and I have been and am still intimitely
invovled on a policy level and as a market participant with the Asian
financial crises since July, 1997. I can report with some authority that
Johnson's observations are not fantasies and in fact are rather calm and
moderating.
On Wednesday, June 30, 1999 at 15:44:31 (-0700) Jim Devine writes:
Henry wrote:
Jim,
Shrinking the size of the economy, even parts that are heavily subsidized,
reduces growth by definition. ...
...
I contribute too many missives to pen-l and I'm no expert on urban
development. What do others on
On Wednesday, June 30, 1999 at 15:47:12 (-0700) Sam Pawlett writes:
Michael Keaney wrote:
I cannot speak for his
stuff on linguistics, however. I wonder if some here would regard these, if
read blindly, as lofty and non-judgmental.
Chomsky's writings on linguistics and philosophy are even
The New York Times, June 20, 1999, Sunday, Late Edition - Final
Holy Cow!
By Allen St. John
Allen St. John has covered the Yankees for the last seven seasons for The
Village Voice and other publications.
Those Damn Yankees: The Secret Life of America's Greatest Franchise.
By Dean Chadwin.
04:48 PM ET 06/30/99
Dollar slips amid limited scope for more rate hikes
By Svea Herbst-Bayliss
NEW YORK, June 30 (Reuters) - The dollar fell against most
currencies on Wednesday when hours of waiting for news on U.S.
interest rates ended with a surprise that left traders briefly
The standard posture seems to be: we are against racism, but let's not
discuss
it, because it is divisive, it turns people off, it make the poster sound
frenzied, let just oppose it quietly but not draw attention to it.
I haven't followed most of this thread -- in self defense I am deleting
Michael,
Tactical error. Should have taken the consulting and try to move the project
towardss a socialist direction. Next time, don't say no. Quote an exhorbitant
consulting fee, like 2% of the deal and donate half of it to your favorite cause
(not cahrity, please).
Never turn away power if
Jim,
I don't disagree in general terms, but that means the target is capitalism not
sports. Sports in the West has been corrupted by capitalism. To that there is
no denying. Yet, sport itself is not to blame. Sport has defused war, used as
effective diplomacy, build self-image for oppressed
I am sorry. I read this as an off line post to me. I did not mean to send personal
stuff onto the list. My apologies to all.
Michael Perelman wrote:
Henry C.K. Liu wrote:
I am not involved with this. I have filtered Sawacki out a while ago and have not
engaged him.
To not respond
Social accounting a highly problematic.
Its very hard to find a consultant report that does not lie.
But lets suppose the cash flow tally comes out negative on the revenue/subsidy
side, and lets assume that the benefits are unevenly distributed in similar
proportion as in other sectors, it will
Roger Noll says that the early studies gave too much credit to the stadium since
it took "entertainment" money from other local businesses.
DOUG ORR wrote:
It has been a long time since I looked at the "sports" lit., but a while
back several studies indicated that attracting a team was, at
Ricardo wrote:
I will be responding in greater detail to Yoshie's post, as well this
one, later on, if time allows. For now let me say that, while all this stuff
on the so-called "racism" of great thinkers is interesting (myself having
posted a few of Marx's own "racist" remarks some time ago),
I believe that every city that has subsidized a major sports stadium has been
burned. Al Davis's son was a student of mine and wanted me to be a consultant
during his early suit with Oakland. I declined.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Henry C.K. Liu wrote:
I am not involved with this. I have filtered Sawacki out a while ago and have not
engaged him.
To not respond will disappoint him. He loves to provoke you.
I have move on to neoclassical economics and urban transportation
and racism.
Good.
Should I stop and
Jim Devine:
We should be careful here. After all, just because imperialist spokescreeps
are against something doesn't mean that we should be in favor of it. Those
folks were right to oppose the Khmer Rouge for awhile (while they were
wrong to support them for an even longer period). The enemy of
Jim Devine wrote:
I'm surprised the US doesn't see Milosevic as "our SOB."
They might if the Albanian 'nationalist' leaders and/or the Serbian
'democratic' oppositions were left-wingers who refused to be controlled or
manipulated by Americans and instead attacked the interests of capital. The
US
Last Response for the Day:
The top growth industries in the US today are sports stadiums and prisons
both of which involve--as usual--the socialization of costs of producing
increasingly concentrated and centralized privatized profits. The NFL and
other "sports" leagues are also essential
It has been a long time since I looked at the "sports" lit., but a while
back several studies indicated that attracting a team was, at best, a wash.
It cost the local economy as much in subsidies as in new $ created (total $,
not just tax $). Since then the subsidies have gotten bigger, so I
Henry wrote:
Jim,
Shrinking the size of the economy, even parts that are heavily subsidized,
reduces growth by definition. We must not confuse fair distribution of cost
and benefits with the aggregate size of the economy.
Full socialization of the NFL would be a better solution. What you are
I will be responding in greater detail to Yoshie's post, as well this
one, later on, if time allows. For now let me say that, while all this stuff
on the so-called "racism" of great thinkers is interesting (myself having
posted a few of Marx's own "racist" remarks some time ago), I think
it
Michael Keaney wrote:
I cannot speak for his
stuff on linguistics, however. I wonder if some here would regard these, if
read blindly, as lofty and non-judgmental.
Chomsky's writings on linguistics and philosophy are even more polemical
and controversial than his political writings. Next to
Now Michael,
I am not involved with this. I have filtered Sawacki out a while ago and have not
engaged him. I have move on to neoclassical economics and urban transportation
and racism. Should I stop and restart?
Henry
Michael Perelman wrote:
Damn, Max. This is just provocative flame
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On Wednesday, June 30, 1999 at 12:36:14 (-0400) Doug Henwood writes:
I'm thinking of doing an article on
On Wednesday, June 30, 1999 at 12:36:14 (-0400) Doug Henwood writes:
I'm thinking of doing an article on the rise to dominance of
right-wing thought in economics social policy in the 1970s. Any
PEN-Lers have any thoughts, reminiscences, etc.? Did Milton
Friedman's presidency at the AEA mark
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Damn, Max. This is just provocative flame bait. You, Henry, and a few people
need to stop immediately!
Max B. Sawicky wrote:
I think PEN-L is a place for people fleeing spam
in homage to Leninism, and especially its degraded
extensions in Stalin and Wao, I mean Mao.
--
Michael Perelman
Jim,
Shrinking the size of the economy, even parts that are heavily subsidized,
reduces growth by definition. We must not confuse fair distribution of cost
and benefits with the aggregate size of the economy.
Full socialization of the NFL would be a better solution. What you are
objecting to
Doug:
Robert Gordon wrote an interesting article on the history of macroeconomics
after the second world war in the US. While his view is different from
yours, the article does have some interesting things to say. It was
published in one of the NBER volumes in the early '80x.
Rod
Here is what Hegel has to say in the Introduction to Philosophy of History based on
lectures delivered in 1830-31:
Geographical Basis of History
"... In the United States of North America all the citizens are of European
decent, with whom the old inhabitants could not amalgamate, but was
Henry writes: Keeping the NFL out will hurt the LA economy.
Why does keeping the NFL out hurt the LA economy? Considering all of the
subsidies that the NFL would receive (they want us to (re)build a stadium
for them) -- and the alternative uses for LA's resources, such as putting
money into
Jim,
It is a tactic dilemma. In America, short of a total revolution, the poor will
never get anything without compensatory benefit to the rich.
I realized the piggy back strategy is regressive structurally, but would it be
better than nothing?
Keeping the NFL out will hurt the LA economy.
David McReynolds says: Milosevic was not a dictator but had been elected
three times.
So perhaps Milosevic is like the late "hizzoner da mare" Richard J. Dailey
of Chicago, who used his political machine to fix elections so that he
could get reelected? I still remember old Dailey at the time of
Emmanuel Chukwudi Eze, "Race and the Enlightenment: A Reader", pp. 58-64:
Eze's preface to the selection:
While Kant himself edited for publication his lectures in anthropology
(Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View), he wrote, concerning his
lectures in geography, "it will not be
Even better would be to keep the NFL out of LA. Who needs taxpayer
subsidies to rich folks like the Oakland Raiders' owner, who took the
subsidies from LA and ran back to Oakland? LA should simply reject the NFL
instead of being whip-sawed by the teams who insist of big bucks or they'll
move
In addition to what I supplied in my previous post, Kant also wrote that
"the negroes of Africa have by nature no feeling that rises above the
trifling." West also reports that Kant wrote "in reply to advice that a
black person gave to Father Labat":
"And it might be that there was something in
Hugh MacDougall, in his _Racial Myth in English History_ (1982, Harvest House),
writes that "Hegel led the way in identifying the process of universal history
with Germanic political thought and culture. He asserted that the final stage of
history was reached with the development of Christian
Time to bring back that ol' July 4th favorite, flaming flag pie. It's a
rectangular blueberry pie with strips of read and white crust over all but
the upper-left part. Warm the pie, add a splash of brandy, light 'n serve.
Peter
Michael Hoover wrote:
it may be lesser-of-two-evils (that may
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But it's a straightforward technical exercise to show that they aren't. For
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get from dumping is recorded as a cost of anti-dumping regulation, and
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The kind in the throes of collapse?
The kind that acts one way towards the national majority,
and quite another w/respect to others?
mbs
[was that repetitious?]
Max, perhaps we have different definitions of dictatorship. Greece had a
dictatorship in the 1960s which was backed by the US
Items of current interest . . .
Campaign for Americas Future
--
Steel Sold Out
The US Senate failed to support a measure to stop the illegal dumping of
foreign steel
in the U.S. after Clinton Administration lobbying against a
.. . .
useful to consider today's NY Times for an obvious refutation of theme 3.
What kind of dictatorship would allow peaceful protests such as these in
the aftermath of a catastrophic military defeat?]
NY Times, June 30, 1999
10,000 Serb Protesters Demand Resignation of Milosevic . . .
The
Once I was giving a graduate class in Development and Planning at St.
Berchman's University in Changanacherry, Kerala India. The class wanted to
go over some of the work in "operations theory" coming out of the U.S. I
asked the class: What is the average wage of a lorry driver in Kerala? What
is
full report at www.erols.com/npap
Crony Environmentalism: Report Challenges Integrity of Environmental
Defense Fund;
Do Conflicts of Interest Corrupt Global Warming Agenda of Leading U.S.
Eco-Group?
-- EDF Created and Affiliated Group Would Profit from Provisions of
Senator Chafee's "Early
NY Times, June 30, 1999
Power Struggle Disrupts Oldest Public Radio Station
By EVELYN NIEVES
BERKELEY, Calif. -- The trouble at radio station KPFA has come to this:
When two folk singers scheduled to perform as a duo on Sunday afternoon
arrived at the building, armed security guards would only
On the highly sophisticated version of sd, in the Russian Social Democratic Labor
Party (Bolshevik) Lunarcharski ( later Minister of Education) and a number of others
advocated Nietzschean ethics.
Charles Brown
Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/30/99 01:24PM
Michael Keaney to Lou:
I'm
Village Voice, June 30 - July 6, 1999
Natural Born Shoppers
"Commercialism is the water we all swim in, the air we breathe, our
sunlight and our shade."
If James Twitchell weren't a graceful, witty writer, his new book, Lead Us
Into Temptation: The Triumph of American Materialism, would be
What Max is saying ( not Wax himself) is mindless and uncritical liberal western dogma
unaware that it is in caricature of free thinking wit, a bane of the human race.
Charles Brown
"Max B. Sawicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/30/99 01:50PM
Louis Proyect wrote:
My suggestion to Charles and Henry
Ken Hanly asked,
Is your description of Pareto optimality as
obfuscatory hogwash generally agreed upon by economists?
How could we ever know without making interpersonal comparisons of utility?
regards,
Tom Walker
http://www.vcn.bc.ca/timework/worksite.htm
Clinton is about to go to the Lakota Reservation at Pine Ridge in a few
days. Please join in sending letters or making calls to demand the release
of Leonard Peltier who is almost dead after 23 years in prison for a crime
he did not commit according to the FBI's own ballistics reports. He has had
What does the flag mean to these people ? Presumably, it means they feel they are
connected to the history of the U$A. So, in this case the American$ see no problem in
finding their connection to earlier generations of the nation. But when you mention
reparations and affirmative action for the
"Henry C.K. Liu" wrote:
The standard posture seems to be: we are against racism, but let's not discuss
it, because it is divisive, it turns people off, it make the poster sound
frenzied, let just oppose it quietly but not draw attention to it.
I haven't followed most of this thread -- in
Michael Keaney writes: ... Sheldon Wolin has written good stuff on the
deleterious effects of Western culture's elevation of the economic over the
political. That Marx is implicated by this does not mean that he ought to
be ditchedfar from it. But we could be a little more critical of the
Jeffrey Fellows asked,
Doesn't the process of comparing differences in ordinal rankings bring
cardinal rankings back into the function, thereby violating the
noncardinality condition?
My argument is that it doesn't because the allegedly ordinal rankings don't
stand up to scrutiny. Using the
.. . .
The difference between shit and shinola: if you assume that maximum output
equals maximum welfare, you're making an interpersonal comparison of utility
between those who have a preference for consumption goods and those who have
a preference for disposable time. The "no interpersonal
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Ken Hanly wrote:
COMMENT: But this confirms my point doesn't it? Isn't it
Louis Proyect wrote:
My suggestion to Charles and Henry is to avoid getting bogged down in
debates with Professor Delong. As far as I can tell, he is a very upscale
sort of troll.
Louis, I don't think that this sort of characterization is useful.
He knows that PEN-L is not really a haven for
June 30, 1999
New Data Indicate Longer Recession in
Latin America
By CLIFFORD KRAUSS
BUENOS AIRES, Argentina -- Despite brighter-than-expected
economic performances in Brazil and Mexico, a spate of new
economic data around Latin America in recent days suggests that the
recession
No, this is important stuff. The Nazis while raping, murdering and pillaging
wore belt buckles that said "Gott Mit Uns". The ultra-rightists have a party
and ideology designed for the ultra-rich, ultra-confortable and ultra-white
but when you have the rappings and illusions of bourgeois
I think Terry Eagleton said something like that (probably in his _The
Illusion of Postmodernism_), especially with regard to _Hegemony
Socialist Strategy: Towards a Radical Democratic Politics_ by Ernesto
Laclau + Chantal Mouffe and other post-marxist stuff. There is a precedent
for this
At 12:36 PM 6/30/99 -0400, you wrote:
I'm thinking of doing an article on the rise to dominance of
right-wing thought in economics social policy in the 1970s. Any
PEN-Lers have any thoughts, reminiscences, etc.? Did Milton
Friedman's presidency at the AEA mark some kind of turning point?
I
Michael Keaney to Lou:
I'm not sure you do justice to the many positions mentioned above. I share
your lack of enthusiasm regarding the pomos, although I had not come across
a description of them as "a highly sophisticated version of social
democracy" prior to your post.
I think Terry Eagleton
More good news?
The Washington Post views the record personal savings deficit as "giving the
Fed ammunition" to justify a rate rise. But the other side of the coin is
that it makes the upward adjustment of interest rates precarious. An
increase in debt service costs has to either erode
In his review of David MacGregor's book *Hegel and Marx After the Fall of
Communism* (forwarded by Ricardo Duchesne), Nicholas Murray writes:
Far from being
conservative, however, he emerges from this book as someone who "saw
reason, the love of freedom, as an instinctive quality in human
Right. I meant ordinal. Thanks. Is your description of Pareto optimality as
obfuscatory hogwash generally agreed upon by economists? :) I thought that the
rejection of interpersonal comparisons of utlity was based partly upon the view
of people such as Von Mises who accept the postivist doctrine
I'm thinking of doing an article on the rise to dominance of
right-wing thought in economics social policy in the 1970s. Any
PEN-Lers have any thoughts, reminiscences, etc.? Did Milton
Friedman's presidency at the AEA mark some kind of turning point?
Doug
Doesn't the process of comparing differences in ordinal rankings bring
cardinal rankings back into the function, thereby violating the
noncardinality condition?
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I think Doug is right here and have held similar views on this point for a long time.
The desire to relive the 30's scenario -capitalism has to be saved from itself and
we're the ones to do it --has some bad political consequences other than the ones Doug
mentions. This is a problem that
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Ken Hanly wrote:
COMMENT: But this confirms my point doesn't it? Isn't it a core
assumption of neoclassical economists that it is impossible to make
interpersonal comparisons of utility? Am I wrong in thinking that? Isn't
it standard that among most that only cardinal rankings of utility by
BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, JUNE 29, 1999
Personal spending rose 0.6 percent in May, outpacing the 0.4 percent gain in
personal income, the Commerce Department reports. Personal saving hit a
record low of minus 1.2 percent in May. ... Private wage and salary
disbursements increased 0.6 percent
Yoshie has posted some of the most insightful and academically respectable
material on racism. I am not an expert on the literature, yet I can say without
qualification I am a empirically qualified object of victimization. Some have
suggested that my minor accomplishments disqualify me from
all analogies being suspect... Michael Hoover
On Monday, June 28, 1999 at 21:36:23 (-0400) Yoshie Furuhashi writes:
...
... Besides, it's nearly impossible to
discuss race on e-lists in any case, which I think has been proven before.
Yes, particularly
Lou,
I thank you for your concern, but I tend to disagree about not debating Brad D.
Although he and I disagree much on these lists, sticks and stones will break my bones,
but words...
But even more, there are many more people in this country who think as Brad D. does,
than as I do. Only by
I regret that I had given the impression that Charles Brown had
participated in personal attacks.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[The propaganda war against the Serbs revolves around 3 basic themes: 1)
they started the war in Croatia and Bosnia out of a desire to create a
Greater Serbia. 2) They woke up one morning in the late 80s and decided to
withdraw autonomy in Kosovo for essentially racist reasons. 3) They are
Louis Proyect wrote:
My suggestion to Charles and Henry is to avoid getting bogged down in
debates with Professor Delong. As far as I can tell, he is a very upscale
sort of troll.
Louis, I don't think that this sort of characterization is useful.
He knows that PEN-L is not really a haven
Oh now I remember. You said that in response to Max saying:
DeLong, Capitalist Roader:
Your unconscionable slanders of the Dear Leader and Grand Poobah
will never be swallowed by the masses of alert proletarians, who
are keenly aware of their world-historic contributions to
progress and human
Thanks for the sound advice, Louis. I have also received similar advice off
list from others. I guess the Berkley professor is not among those who
can be
united for the good cause, perhaps not even should be.
The bankruptcy of neo-liberal globalization has driven him up the wall. We
should just
Thanks for the sound advice, Louis. I have also received similar advice off
list from others. I guess the Berkley professor is not among those who can be
united for the good cause, perhaps not even should be.
The bankruptcy of neo-liberal globalization has driven him up the wall. We
should just
Says Henry:
This is precisely why Hegel, though his views were not racist, could easily
lend
themselve into logical racism. People can and are diffierent without being
better or
worse. To insist otherwise will lead towards a dangerous and inhuman path.
And substantial chunks of Marxism have
Classical economics centers on man's mechanical response to inflexible economic
laws.
The concepts of William Stanley Jevons (English 1835-82, value determined by
ultility), Karl Menger (Austrian 1840-1921, marginal utlilty) and Leon Walras
(French 1834-1910 managed currency) represented
Henry wrote:
The current direction of China is another issue which we have discussed at some
legenth on this and other lists.
This particularly debate is focused on an historical issue: whether Mao
purposefully murdered 30 million of his countrymen with an egotistic policy of
the Great Leap
Is the below a post from me or Jim D. ? There's no automatic socialism.
Charles B.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/29/99 04:43PM
In Doug's article, he writes; That faith in inevitable self-destruction
has deeply unfortunate political consequences.
Even if catastrophist predictions _do_ work
people might be interested in yesterday afternoon's report on US NPR's "All
Things Considered" on liberal pro-war attitudes. They quoted a lot of
interesting anti-war opponents, including Noam Chomsky, who hardly ever
gets media coverage. They also quoted David Rieff (I think I've got his
name
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