[PEN-L:9185] Re: Re: Re: Re: Hanns Eisler

1999-07-15 Thread Michael Hoover
Peter Dorman wrote: in my opinion, Hans Werner Henze's Raft of the Medusa will be listened to for a long time to come. (People who care about political art owe it to themselves to check this one out.) Yes, not to mention the recording of his 6 symphonies on DG with Henze himself

[PEN-L:9184] Re: Order and Anarchy, a Person and a Thing (was Kant on Debt)

1999-07-15 Thread Michael Hoover
One one hand, the majority of humanity--women, blacks, workers...--must of necessity be excluded from a thoroughgoing individualism: On the other hand, in so far as they, too, live under capitalism, the ideology of individualism must still be applied to them when occasions demand. Such is

[PEN-L:9187] Re: Moderator request help

1999-07-15 Thread Louis Proyect
In addition, I cannot locate this sentence from the Grundrisse: "Society does not consist of individuals, but expresses the sum of interrelations, the relations within these individuals stand." 12) Marx, Grundrisse, Vintage, NY, 1973; p. 265 Louis Proyect

[PEN-L:9189] The struggle over Pacifica

1999-07-15 Thread Louis Proyect
Last night when I turned on the radio around 3am, I was surprised to hear Larry Bensky being interviewed on WABC, the am talk radio station. He was reporting on the arrests of Dennis Bernstein, a KPFA programmer and his supporters out in San Francisco this week and continuing protests. This is a

[PEN-L:9190] from SLATE

1999-07-15 Thread Jim Devine
from Scott Shuger's column: Hey, remember the Iraqi secret weapons-of-mass-destruction program? Well, a story on page 19 of the [Washington POST] reports that U.S. intelligence experts have seen no indication that Iraq has resumed its chemical and biological programs since last December, when UN

[PEN-L:9191] Re: The struggle over Pacifica

1999-07-15 Thread Ellen Frank
Can someone explain the organizational structure of Pacifica? Who appoints the board? To whom is the board accountable? We don't have a Pacifica station here in Boston (just endless NPR), so I don't have a good grasp of the structure of Pacifica. Ellen Frank

[PEN-L:9192] Re: Moderator request help

1999-07-15 Thread William S. Lear
On Wednesday, July 14, 1999 at 20:42:37 (-0700) Michael Perelman writes: I am in the midst of copyediting my new book, The Invention of Capitalism, which Duke will publish in early 2000. ... Am I correct in assuming you will engage Jim Blaut's work, as well as Gunder Frank's? How 'bout

[PEN-L:9194] Protesting Pacifica

1999-07-15 Thread Seth Sandronsky
rom: Ken McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: KPFA: It gets worse PLEASE FORWARD July 14, 1999 More info: http://www.savepacifica.net * Why KPFA and WBAI have been targeted by the US government * An eyewitness account of the armed censoring of KPFA * What you can do * Beware of "incidents" -

[PEN-L:9195] Re: Re: The struggle over Pacifica

1999-07-15 Thread Doug Henwood
Ellen Frank wrote: Can someone explain the organizational structure of Pacifica? The national board owns the station licenses, but has almost no source of income other than a portion of the money raised by the local stations. They clearly want to squash any local station autonomy and turn

[PEN-L:9196] Re: On Footnotes Was Re: Re: query

1999-07-15 Thread Charles Brown
Carrol Cox wrote: Pioneers as it were in the disuse of footnotes were British scholars who liked to pretend that only readers who knew the source without a footnote were worthy readers. Footnotes were regarded as catering to the great unwashed who were too ignorant to recognize a

[PEN-L:9200] Re: Re: Moderator request help

1999-07-15 Thread Michael Perelman
"William S. Lear" wrote: Am I correct in assuming you will engage Jim Blaut's work, as well as Gunder Frank's? How 'bout Polanyi's? Not exactly, I am looking at primitive accumulation through the lens of classical political economy. Of the 3 that you mention, it would come closest to

[PEN-L:9201] Re: Re: Moderator request help

1999-07-15 Thread Charles Brown
Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/99 02:49PM "William S. Lear" wrote: Am I correct in assuming you will engage Jim Blaut's work, as well as Gunder Frank's? How 'bout Polanyi's? Not exactly, I am looking at primitive accumulation through the lens of classical political economy.

[PEN-L:9203] Fw: Charge U.S./NATO with War Crimes-July 31, NYC

1999-07-15 Thread Frank Durgin
-- From: iacenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Charge U.S./NATO with War Crimes-July 31, NYC Date: Thursday, July 15, 1999 11:01 AM International Action Center 39 W.

[PEN-L:9205] Re: Re: Re: Moderator request help

1999-07-15 Thread Michael Perelman
Charles Brown wrote: Charles: Congrats ! What do you think of Marx's statement regarding slavery and colonialism as the chief momenta of the primitive accumulation ? The Brits were every bit as willing to exploit their own as they were to exploit people elsewhere. I think that slavery and

[PEN-L:9206] Re: Re: Re: Moderator request help

1999-07-15 Thread Charles Brown
Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/99 04:32PM Charles Brown wrote: Charles: Congrats ! What do you think of Marx's statement regarding slavery and colonialism as the chief momenta of the primitive accumulation ? The Brits were every bit as willing to exploit their own as they were

[PEN-L:9207] Re: Unionism in academia

1999-07-15 Thread Ken Hanly
This doesn't sound like a union at all. Aren't unions legally recognised bargaining agents for some group such as faculty? Where I worked the union was such a legally recognized bargaining agent. While the Senate might very well deal with academic matters etc. this would always be within the

[PEN-L:9208] Taiwan

1999-07-15 Thread Craven, Jim
The U.S. Government "announced" today that any attempts by the PRC to settle the Taiwan question or "takeover" Taiwan through force would be regarded as a serious threat to the "west" Pacific Region and therefore affecting U.S. "interests" which would produce a serious response by the U.S. This

[PEN-L:9211] Re: Re: income by 'race'

1999-07-15 Thread Michael Perelman
Bill's numbers concerning the earnings gap seem to show a smaller earnings gap for me in Canada than in the U.S. I recently sent in a note about unions being responsible for the lower Canadian women's earnings gap, compared to U.S. women. Could unions be playing a similar role for men? --

[PEN-L:9210] RE: Re: income by 'race'

1999-07-15 Thread Craven, Jim
Using 1991 census data, PP find that "conditional on observable characteristics, Canadian-born visible-minority men face an earnings gap of 8% and Aboriginal men a gap of 13%, in comparison with Canadian white men." Canadian-born British-origin men 'earned' 17% more than Canadian-born Black

[PEN-L:9212] The “back-to-the-Soviet Union” candidates

1999-07-15 Thread Frank Durgin
From The Economist July 10-July16 Ukraine Grim choices K I E V NEARLY eight years after

[PEN-L:9218] Re: Kant's Immortal Soul, or, the Sublime Subject of Ideology

1999-07-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
James Farmelant wrote: I am not sure that it is accurate to describe Kant as having been anti-revolutionary. He was a discreet supporter of the French Revolution, and even wrote an essay *Eternal Peace* in which he argued that the establishment of republican regimes was to be welcomed as a means

[PEN-L:9219] Re: Re: Re: Kant on Pain Moral Worth

1999-07-15 Thread Sam Pawlett
Jim Devine wrote: However, I find the readings on "Marxism and Morality" that I've done to be interesting and useful. Marxism may not be (or incorporate) an ethical system, but it does not contradict all ethical systems. Allen Wood developed the interesting argument that Marx's critique

[PEN-L:9221] Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Moderator request help

1999-07-15 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
Michael, You are setting a very bad example for the rest of us incapable of producing such a volume of quality in such a limited time. Maybe a hundred pages or two Paul Paul Phillips, Economics, University of Manitoba Date sent: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:29:56 -0700 From:

[PEN-L:9223] Re: Re: income by 'race'

1999-07-15 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
Bill, I can't give you specific references to where Wayne Simpson and Derek Hum's data is/will be published given the usual summer hiatus plus the fact that the PanAm games are here and have completely disrupted all activity at the university (which is the athletes village) but, from what you

[PEN-L:9224] Re: Re: Re: income by 'race'

1999-07-15 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
Michael, There was a book published a couple of years ago edited by Card and (I think) Freeman, called *Small Differences that Matter* where, if I remember correctly, they deal with this and come to the conclusion that unions have reduced not only disparities between gender, but also within

[PEN-L:9225] Thanks to all and a question

1999-07-15 Thread Michael Perelman
I want to say what a pleasure it is to read pen-l lately. Nobody is provoking anybody else. The signal to noise ratio is increasing. Let me ask a simple economic question: what do you think the weakest link in the U.S. economy is today? labor resistance, ponzi-like debt, international

[PEN-L:9214] Re: Re: Kant, Reason, Armed Forces (was Re: Kant on Debt)

1999-07-15 Thread Sam Pawlett
Michael Hoover wrote: Kant wrote in "What Is Enlightenment?": 'Argue as much as you will, and about what you will, only obey!' Yoshie didn't Kant also write somewhere that government must suppress criticism that does not show 'respect and devotion towards the existing

[PEN-L:9215] How Imperialism Works

1999-07-15 Thread Sam Pawlett
"Objectivity, a sense of justice and sentimentality would only hinder the Germans in their world mission. This mission does not consist in extending culture and education throughout the world but in taking wheat and oil away." --Joseph Goebbels *Monologe im Fuhrerhauptquartier 1941-1944 p 362.*

[PEN-L:9228] net warning! it's dated but it may still be valid!

1999-07-15 Thread Jim Devine
FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO: Trojan Army Listserv [EMAIL PROTECTED] RE: WARNING!! BEWARE GREEKS BEARING GIFTS! Hey Hector, This was forwarded to me by Cassandra -- it looks legit. Please distribute to Priam, Hecuba, and your 99 siblings.

[PEN-L:9229] The weakest link?

1999-07-15 Thread Tom Walker
This would make a good parlour game. My nomination is personal debt. A figure I heard was a 73% increase since 1993 (this was cited in a March 1999 in the Washington Monthly -- I'm sure somebody has the exact up-to-date number right at their fingertips). At some point some significant

[PEN-L:9227] Re: Re: income by 'race'

1999-07-15 Thread Rod Hay
Bill. I didn't post the references for two reasons. First I am basically lazy and it would have required me walking up two floors from where my computer is. And second, I thought that Paul's reference would satisfy everyone. As to Michael's question on why the situation is different in the

[PEN-L:9220] BLS Daily Report

1999-07-15 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, JULY 15, 1999 RELEASED TODAY: CPI -- In June, on a seasonally adjusted basis, the CPI-U was unchanged for the second consecutive month. Energy costs, which fell 1.3 percent in May, declined 1.2 percent in June. ... The food index was unchanged in June. ...

[PEN-L:9217] Re: income by 'race'

1999-07-15 Thread Bill Burgess
At 03:14 PM 15/07/99 -0700, Michael P. wrote: Bill's numbers concerning the earnings gap seem to show a smaller earnings gap for me in Canada than in the U.S. I recently sent in a note about unions being responsible for the lower Canadian women's earnings gap, compared to U.S. women. Could

[PEN-L:9216] Reformatted: A classroom exercise

1999-07-15 Thread Craven, Jim
-Original Message- From: Craven, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 4:13 PM To: Craven, Jim Subject: FW: A classroom exercise -Original Message- From: Craven, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 3:14 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

[PEN-L:9213] A classroom exercise

1999-07-15 Thread Craven, Jim
Here is another classroom exercise I employ: Take two hypothetical individuals--A and B A B 1. Wants it all, wants it now1. Able to delay gratification 2. Wants = Needs 2.

[PEN-L:9209] Re: income by 'race'

1999-07-15 Thread Bill Burgess
A week or two ago I disagreed with Rod Hay's claims that there "appears to be no widespread, identifiable systemic racism, at present" in Canada (except against Natives), and that there are no economic studies which "find any significance for 'self-identified race' in determining income". I

[PEN-L:9204] Re: RE: Re: Re: Moderator request help

1999-07-15 Thread Michael Perelman
Max Sawicky wrote: What is this thing, 2000 pages? I have pared it down to less than 600 pages.-- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901

[PEN-L:9202] RE: Re: Re: Moderator request help

1999-07-15 Thread Max Sawicky
What is this thing, 2000 pages? Is there a comic book version? "Primitive Accumulation for Dummies"? mbs -- Here is the table of comments for the book: The Invention of Capitalism: Classical Political Economy and the Secret History of Primitive Accumulation .

[PEN-L:9199] BLS Daily Report

1999-07-15 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, JULY 14, 1999 RELEASED TODAY: The Produce Price Index for Finished Goods declined 0.1 percent in June, seasonally adjusted. This decrease followed a 0.2 percent increase in May and a 0.5 percent advance in April. The index for finished goods other than foods and

[PEN-L:9197] Re: Re: Re: Sports Jingoism (fwd)

1999-07-15 Thread ann li
Good point, Steve. Speaking of buildings that get destroyed, my current interests include trying to figure out how to get archival building records that probably don't exist because of the SF 1906 earthquake that happened coincidentally when my grandfather and a lot of other chinese immigrated

[PEN-L:9193] Re: Kant's Immortal Soul, or, the Sublime Subjectof Ideology

1999-07-15 Thread Charles Brown
It would seem that Kant is the absolute antithesis of an anarchist in making the state most sacred as Yoshie describes below. This might reflect his need to make a living within the highly tryrannical Prussian state. Yet this is another dualism in Kant because , as Louis Proyect pointed out,

[PEN-L:9188] Re: socialism vs. unionism

1999-07-15 Thread Charles Brown
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/14/99 05:15PM At any rate, as many have wisely suggested, on the internet, only one's ideas should be evaluated. Absolutely! For example, just because someone has been labeled a "racist" doesn't mean that their opinions are always wrong. (