Characterized by catastrophism from its birth, American ultraleftism has
been ill-equipped to understand and relate to leftwing third party
initiatives. If capitalism is on its last legs, wouldn't an electoral
effort amount to a diversion at best, or betrayal at worst? In reality,
American
The Cleveland Plain Dealer, June 30, 2000 Friday
HOUSE OKS COLOMBIA DRUG AID, BUT NO FOOD FOR CUBA;
Leaders resolved a last-minute snag yesterday and whisked through the House
an $11.2 billion emergency package bearing money for Colombia's drug war,
the Pentagon and storm victims at home.
The Nation, July 24/31, 2000
Where's Hoffa Driving the Teamsters?
by MARC COOPER
There was a time when the very word "Teamsters" evoked some pretty dark
images: a bloated and notoriously corrupt union president, carried into the
Teamsters convention on a gilded sedan chair by men dressed as
The Nation, July 24/31, 2000
A City That Worked
by ROBERT W. SNYDER
The New York of 1945 was the victorious city of the New Deal and World War
II, one that can barely be glimpsed today beneath postmodern towers and
billboards for dot-com enterprises. New York was a metropolis with a strong
JKSCHW wrote,
there are tens of millions of business bankruptcies a years, and a
handful of bailouts. The market real does create incentives to be
efficient . . .
Circular argument. If we ASSUME that the bankruptcies resulted from
inefficiencies, then their occurance may be taken as
Why would there only be state patronage and bailout in a planned system? At least
before the system in the USSR broke down people had a life expectancy of 69 as
compared to 59 now, in spite of bailouts and patronage in the planned system. So
are tens of millions of bankruptcies efficient?
It
There has been a slight but significant shift of the political centre in
Britain this week.
As the two main parties adjust their positions ready for the first general
election following Blair's 1997 massive victory, the British Conservative
Party, under the influence of the new caring Michael
I think, although I may be wrong, that democratic control can be as or
more effective than markets in providing information and a corrective to
the mistakes of planning. You seem to assume a centralized bureaucratic
planning a la the USSR. If adequate democratic controls are designed,
managers
Mine Aysen Doyran wrote:
Anthony DCosta wrote:
Wallerstein writes, irrespective of what others write. He doesn't
listen--to paraphrase some of his students (who are my friends) and
colleagues!
Cheers,
ohh, definetly, he is very persistent of his own position. That is
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Apartheid's Killer Legacy.
By David Kenvyn
Matlaweng Mohlala began working at Cape's Penge mine when he was only
twelve. For fourteen years he packed asbestos fibre
Anthony DCosta wrote:
Wallerstein writes, irrespective of what others write. He doesn't
listen--to paraphrase some of his students (who are my friends) and
colleagues!
I am not surprised. There's no one iota of an idea which one could
extract out of that future demise thing. Beyond that,
John Roemer, John Roemer Oh yeah, I remember him. Berkeley, 1969.
Undergraduate math major and head of local Progressive Labor Party chapter.
"People's Park are a bunch of reactionary hippies stealing parking spaces
from the working class." Also, get other people to front for you and get
Ricardo
Could you please criticize Wallerstein without the personal attacks. His
arrogance is irrelevant. I have met him and had a reasonable and civil
conversation with him. He did not react with hostility to criticism and
disagreements that I put forward, and was quite willing to discuss his
Rod Hay wrote:
Ricardo
Could you please criticize Wallerstein without the personal attacks. His
arrogance is irrelevant. I have met him and had a reasonable and civil
conversation with him.
Didn't you read my comments on his Future Demise? You tell me
where I go wrong in those comments,
"In Freeman's view the mortal blow to this city on a hill was not
McCarthyism but the fiscal crisis of the seventies, which undermined New
York's miniature welfare state."
Being neither a historian of New York nor a New Yorker, I offer my
opinion with some trepidation. But I would have thought
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/13/00 05:10PM
you miss my point. I wasn't saying that so-called "Leninists" are more
bureaucratic than others. Rather, I was saying that the word "correct" is
associated with one bureaucratic trend, which goes beyond "Leninism" to
include the purveyors of political
About three years ago I attended a panel at the Socialist Scholars
Conference on markets in socialist economies. It was chaired by Al
Campbell, an ex-Trotskyist who now teaches economics at the University of
Utah, which is quite an anomaly. The economics department there is reputed
to be one of
Although there is an undercurrent of protests against the reime of the
Chief Executive Tung Chee-hwa, the economic position of Hong Kong has
stabilised.
"The fall in property prices from the ludicrous levels of 1997 has hurt
many owners." That sounds fine to me. It suggests that the
Excellent post, Louis. I would add only one minor point. My understanding was
that the Soviet economy continued to grow during the 70s, but that the rate of
growth declined quite a bit. The Star Wars hoax made the Soviets think that
they would have to significantly increase military
Louis Proyect wrote:
One other key element of the demise of AM is the market socialism they
often upheld. When the Gorbachev experiment failed, when the CCP went off
the deep end welcoming in Nike, etc., when Yugoslavia imploded, it made it
more difficult to talk about the benefits of
Thank you, Rod.
Rod Hay wrote:
Ricardo
Could you please criticize Wallerstein without the personal attacks. His
arrogance is irrelevant. I have met him and had a reasonable and civil
conversation with him. He did not react with hostility to criticism and
disagreements that I put forward,
So if in a decade Mexico, Brazil, Poland, Hungary, and the Czech
Republic are in the position that SK and Taiwan are now, you will
conclude... what?
Brad DeLong
Why wait a decade? Mexico and South Korea have roughly the same per capita GNP ($8300
for Mexico and $8500 for South Korea).
Justin wrote:
In a market system, most enterprises lack the power that, e.g., Chrysler
could bring to bear to avoid the consequences of its decisions. Bankruptcy is
far more common than bailouts--there are tens of millions of business
bankruptcies a years, and a handful of bailouts.
bankruptcy
At 10:11 AM 07/14/2000 -0400, you wrote:
It was chaired by Al
Campbell, an ex-Trotskyist who now teaches economics at the University of
Utah, which is quite an anomaly. The economics department there is reputed
to be one of the most Marxist-friendly in the country, while the state of
Utah is also
Schwartz wrote,
LP and its linguistic phil outliers came apart after 1950 and by 1975,
Humpty Dumpty was all in pieces. This is when I started college. It was
exciting; there was a sense we were going to get it right this time.
and then he wrote,
However, 25 years later, things have
The story I got was that Utah wanted to show that it was not just a bunch
of Yahoos, so they gave a space to the econ. department. Now, they have
been told, no more lefties. Hire conventionally. I do not think that
there is a single major department that would intentionally hire a lefty
today.
Timework Web wrote:
That is unless one wants to go all the way back to 1946 and the very
trenchant observation that the fashion for Hayek has nothing to do with
objections to planning per se -- corporations do it all the time -- it is
selectively an objection to DEMOCRATIC planning on behalf of
I have the superficial impression that second quarter earnings reports
coming out are remarkably strong. Any idea what's going on here, Doug?
Temps Walker
Sandwichman and Deconsultant
A letter from Harry Magdoff to Frank Roosevelt and David Belkin, the
editors of "Why Market Socialism", appears in the May 1995 Monthly Review.
In explaining why Monthly Review chose not to review the new book, the MR
editors state in a preface to Magdoff's letter that the perspective on the
BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, JULY 13, 2000
TODAY'S RELEASE: "U.S. Import and Export Price Indexes - June 2000"
indicates that the U.S. Import Price Index increased 0.8 percent in June.
The increase was attributable to a rise in petroleum prices; prices for
nonpetroleum imports were
michael perelman wrote,
Now, they have been told, no more lefties. Hire conventionally.
Presumably it was "the free market in ideas" that told them and not some
bureaucratic command structure. Or am I feigning naivety?
Temps Walker
Sandwichman and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Carrol, haven't you heard of efficient market theory? There are no
inefficiencies in a capitalist market economy.
Those two sentences use two different meanings of "efficient." The
second uses it in the colloquial sense, of minimizing waste. The
first uses it in the
At 11:02 AM 7/14/00 -0400, you wrote:
As Joan Robinson once reputedly said (I've never found the reference), the
only thing worse than being exploited by capital is not being exploited by
capital.
the Joan Robinson quote: "As we see nowadays in South-East Asia or the
Caribbean, the misery
Bell Labs was a major innovator for many decades, but as soon as the
phone companies were broken up, Bell Labs switched to market research
from pure science or engineering.
so Lucent (nee Bell Labs) has shifted dramatically away from fundamental
research (as I've suspected)?
Jim Devine
Harry Magdoff wrote:
The underlying assumption of the essays in 'Why Market Socialism' is that
central planning inevitably requires bureaucratic control over every
detail of production and distribution.
IMHO, the role of central planning should be greatest for the most abstract
and general
At 11:49 AM 7/14/00 -0400, you wrote:
The Hayek arguments assume only enough centralization to have a system
count as planned. Democracy would, if anything, make the problems worse,
because there woiuld be more information to coordinate and more pressure
groups to accommodate.
so we're
What I meant was: is there any way to distinguish between the economic
cake and the strategic accounting icing in these earnings reports? I'm
wondering if the icing -- if there's more of that than usual this
qtr. -- might have to do with worries about future prospects for
financing.
Temps
very much so, but not to market research, but to market-oriented research.
Jim Devine wrote:
Bell Labs was a major innovator for many decades, but as soon as the
phone companies were broken up, Bell Labs switched to market research
from pure science or engineering.
so Lucent (nee Bell
We at the Econ Department at the University of Utah have
been taking turns, sometimes hiring neoclassical economists
or econometricians, and sometimes radicals. Whenever a
mainstream position has to be filled, the hiring committee
works very hard to get someone congenial with the heterodox
At 06:00 PM 7/13/00 -0400, you wrote:
There are no [analytical philosophy] figures of the stature of Russell or
Wittgenstein, or even Quine or Sellars. The field is treading water. This
is not just the case with analytical philosophy. "Contintental" philosophy
isn't going anywhere either. I
Doug Henwood wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Carrol, haven't you heard of efficient market theory? There are no
inefficiencies in a capitalist market economy.
Those two sentences use two different meanings of "efficient." The
second uses it in the colloquial sense, of minimizing waste.
from a CHOICE review of Marc Edelman's book, _Peasants against
Globalization_ (Stanford, 1999):
"Edelman argues that the decision by the Costa Rican government to turn
toward neoliberal and global market policies in the 1980s sparked a wave of
peasant movements He shows that Costa Rican
Frank is a Solidarity member, friend of mine, teaches at U-Mich. His usual work is
extremely technical. I can follow most economist's math, but not Frank's. I am glad to
hear that he is now doing some empirical work.
Lou P writes:
Some professor named Frank Thompson, whose work I was not
Actually, Matthew Evangelista has established that the Star Wars hoax did not induce
the Soviets to increase military expenditures. Soviet growth rates are a vexed matter.
Your statement of the matter represents the normal view as of, say, 1985, and it still
may be right, but there were other
At 02:18 PM 7/14/00 -0400, you wrote:
Frank is a Solidarity member, friend of mine, teaches at U-Mich. His usual
work is extremely technical. I can follow most economist's math, but not
Frank's. I am glad to hear that he is now doing some empirical work.
He's a friend of mine, too, and I'm
Jim D says:
bankruptcy _is_ a form of bail-out.
Quite right, from a legal point of view. It's supposed to give the debtor either a
chance to reorganize or a fresh start, while giving the creditors a fair id meagre
settlement. However, and this is the point, it shuts down or reorganizes
Brad De Long wrote:
So if in a decade Mexico, Brazil, Poland, Hungary, and the Czech
Republic are in the position that SK and Taiwan are now, you will
conclude... what?
That history has reversed itself? That 5 countries out of over 200 in
the World Bank's World Development Indicators don't
I don't need these gratutiouus insults. I will explain just once, then if Temps can't
be any more civil or any smarter, I will ignore him.
In 1975, analytical philosophy was exciting because it seemed that we were putting an
impressive but wrongheaded project (logical positivism) behind us,
Well, AP is _now_ just clear thinking, but it is so in a certain tradition, the one I
described in my posts that derives from Russell and Wittgenstein, the positivists,
Quine, etc. AP is self-defined in part by reference to others who refer to these
writers and each other. So, for example, I
Friday, July 14, 2000
SCMP
Capitalists infiltrating party, article warns
JASPER BECKER
Too many private businessmen are joining the Communist Party, an article in the
party's monthly ideological magazine, Zhongliu, has warned.
In some coastal areas, half of the new members in small towns and
Louis Proyect wrote:
In spring the daily CP newspaper published letters from students at the
University of Peking denouncing their professors, whom they considered to
be too liberal. Anti-globalization nationalists, part of the new left, are
very critical towards social inequalities, which
Jim says:
The problem with [the Hayek argument] is that it's not talking about a real-world
situation
but instead about ideal models inside economists' heads.
I am presenting the argument abstractly, but I think it is amply confirmed the real
world experience of planning.
Market
I never denied Michael's point. I don't knwo enough about this. But in the Schweickart
model I advocate, new investment is planned, so if there is a problem there with
markets, we need to worry about it in market socialism of that variety. --jks
In a message dated Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:27:44 AM
As I dsaid, in the Schweickart model, investment is planned, so this wouldn't be a
problem with socialist markets.
In a message dated Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:35:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jim Devine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 12:04 AM 07/14/2000 -0400, you wrote:
What system provides
Yoshie says:
That the market rations resources "efficiently" through bankruptcies
doesn't sound like an attractive argument for market socialism with
which to appeal to working people, no?
So you would keep in business enterprises that waste time and other resources and make
stuff nobody
Well, I would not want to be held accountable fdor some of the dumb shit that I pulled
as a student radical long ago. Would you? --jks
In a message dated Fri, 14 Jul 2000 2:45:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Brown, Martin
(NCI)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No, just his character.
Luo says that the "general desire for a better life" is enough of an incentive for
everyone to tell the truth, even if that means making oneself work harder with fewer
resources, or voting to disrupt your life by shutting down an inefficient enterprise
or even a line of work (think of
Oh, I agree with you entirely. It's arguing with people who have not heard about the
calculation problem that drives me to rhetorical excesses. It's a bit late in the day
to wake up to the idea that there may be a problem with planning. The problems with
markets we (at least) know. --jks
In a
Larry Summers has discovered "the new natural monopolies" -- where monopoly
profits are required to motivate investment. See his speech
in early May --
"The New Wealth of Nations"
Remarks by Treasury Secretary Lawrence H. Summers
Hambrecht Quist Technology Conference
San Francisco, CA
Brad
Doug Henwood wrote:
Timework Web wrote:
That is unless one wants to go all the way back to 1946 and the very
trenchant observation that the fashion for Hayek has nothing to do with
objections to planning per se -- corporations do it all the time -- it is
selectively an objection to
Yes, Justin. It is better to argue on merits of ideas. I can tell some very positive
stories about Roemer as a person told to me by
former students who went to Davis without accepting his ideas.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And this means what? That his arguments are defective? --jks
--
Incidentally, Bill Casey got the Saudis to jigger the oil price in exchange for
military weapons, further disrupting the Soviet economy.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, Matthew Evangelista has established that the Star Wars hoax did not induce
the Soviets to increase military
Or to break union contracts.
Doug Henwood wrote:
It also is a way to handle firms that may be operationally ok, but
which have been saddled with debt by financial parasites. Or a way -
e.g. Manville - to avoid paying damage claims.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State
Eugene Coyle wrote:
Both ends of this marvelous corporate decision-making totally missed the
mark.
Low prices led to no orders. Now high prices lead to voluminous orders.
Odd. So much for the market and the taking into account of prices and
demand.
Gosh, I don't know how capitalism has
Justin wrote:
But the argument is general, and it is confirmed by all kinds of planning
experiences, capitalist (think of the Pentagon!), monopologtsic, as well
as state socialist.
actually, the Pentagon does a very good job at planning, to serve the
military and the arms manufacturers. We
I don't know John Roemer well at all, but more than one person I've talked
to has said that his personality didn't change at all going from being a
high-powered PL leader to being a high-powered academic.
At 03:49 PM 7/14/00 -0400, you wrote:
Well, I would not want to be held accountable fdor
At 03:43 PM 7/14/00 -0400, you wrote:
As I dsaid, in the Schweickart model, investment is planned, so this
wouldn't be a problem with socialist markets.
if investment is planned, then the Hayek critique applies and the
Schweickart model falls apart, right? or maybe the Hayek critique isn't as
Yes, I am fully accountable. End of discussion.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 3:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEN-L:21690] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: M once again
Well, I would not want to be held accountable fdor
Ah, someone got the point!
-Original Message-
From: Jim Devine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 4:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEN-L:21700] Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: M once again
I don't know John Roemer well at all, but more than one person I've talked
to
My main complaint about the idea of market socialism is that it does nothing to go
beyond the sort of incentives that contaminate life in a capitalist economy. I would
prefer to take a chance that people can go beyond the limited incentives of
selfishness that dominate market society. I
may
Wow! Summers has discovered Schumpeter!
Eugene Coyle wrote:
Larry Summers has discovered "the new natural monopolies" -- where monopoly
profits are required to motivate investment. See his speech
in early May --
"The New Wealth of Nations"
Remarks by Treasury Secretary Lawrence H.
Gosh, I don't know how capitalism has survived all these centuries,
eliminating all rival systems, if the capitalists can't do anything
right.
I think capitalism's critics and enemies will have to do a lot
better than come up with single examples of bad decisions. This is
the corollary of
Under the new census rules, I understand that a black from the inner
city sentenced to a rural prison will be counted as a resident of that
community. As a result, the rural communities will get more funds
relative to the inner city.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State
Michael Perelman wrote:
My main complaint about the idea of market socialism is that it does
nothing to go beyond the sort of incentives that contaminate life in
a capitalist economy. I would prefer to take a chance that people
can go beyond the limited incentives of selfishness that
I have long troubled over investment planning. It is a weak point in Schweickart's
theory from an efficiency point of view. I think we may have to suffer those
inefficiencies for equity reasons. Without denocratic control of new investment, it is
hard to see how you have socialism at all. But
Rod Hay wrote:
Actually I think the Hayek-Mises critique of planning is quite easy to
answer. The problem is not information. The problem is designing
institutions which provide the incentives for technological
improvements.
The premise that technological improvements (in the abstract)
Great for you. I'm not. I did some pretty stupid things when I was younger. Of course,
now that I am older and wiser, I can be accountable. --jks
In a message dated Fri, 14 Jul 2000 4:31:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Brown, Martin
(NCI)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, I am fully
1. Justin writes: Please show me how the Hayekian argument I have been
running depends on any particular features of planning that are peculiar to
a Soviet-style planning process. It doesn't. The argument is abosolutely
general. Waving the words "decentralized" and "democratic" doesn't expalin
Well, if you want socialism to transform humans into a purer sort of creature, maybe
that is a problem. What I hope for is that socialism would feed the hungry, cloth the
naked, shelter the unhoused, and make work available to all and reasonably decent for
many people for whom it is a torment
Glory and Honour to Stanley and Susan Rosenblatt, lawyers for the class
action against tobacco capital in winning the judgement today from a
Florida Court of exemplary punitive damages of $145 billion for 700,000
sufferers!
No matter that the companies will haggle, if allowed, for the next 75
How do you propose to get to a nonmarket socialism? Seems to me the
only hope is to bend, push, modify, transform what exists now, which
means, in Diane Elson's phrase, socializing markets. It seems
abstract and adventurist to talk about any postmarket socialism as if
you could just pull it
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
Gosh, I don't know how capitalism has survived all these centuries,
eliminating all rival systems, if the capitalists can't do anything
right.
I think capitalism's critics and enemies will have to do a lot
better than come up with single examples of bad decisions.
Actually, Matthew Evangelista has established that the Star Wars
hoax did not induce the Soviets to increase military expenditures.
Soviet growth rates are a vexed matter. Your statement of the matter
represents the normal view as of, say, 1985, and it still may be
right, but there were other
Doug,
Of course I have no specific proposals at this time. Changes would require a great
deal of experimentation. So far no society has had the opportunity to really make
such experiments, without tremendous outside pressures. Neither Cuban nor the
Soviet Union had such a chance.
Doug
No. You can use it, but it's public domain. I'd appreciate acknowledgements if it's
that good. --jks
"... as usual with planned economies, no good and accurate
information was available." Oh, that's cruel! Oh, that's mean! I'm
going to have to remember that.
May I purchase intellectual
Louis Proyect wrote:
What does it mean to "socialize markets"? This sounds like Chris Burford's
idea. It can't work, needless to say. Reforms like the Tobin Tax, etc. are
all well and good, but socialism has a completely different agenda. It
involves dissolving the old state apparatus,
Michael Perelman wrote:
My main complaint about the idea of market socialism is that it does
nothing to go beyond the sort of incentives that contaminate life in
a capitalist economy. I would prefer to take a chance that people
can go beyond the limited incentives of selfishness that
A not too-well recognized hero in this whole struggle is Stanton Glantz at
Stanford University. He has been instrumental in bringing secret corporate
documents of the big tobacco companies into the light of day and also in
promoting the perspective that anti-smoking means a critique of corporate
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
You also wrote a while ago:
Someone with an income of $25,000 is richer than 98% of the
world's population; even the bottom decile of USers have incomes
higher than 2/3 of the world's population.
Sounds like a fatal defect, from the point of view that deplores
relative
Martin, I did not know that Glantz was part of your group. Yes, he showed
enormous integrity. What is more surprising is that his case was perhaps the
only time I know of where the administration of the University of California
acted with integrity and courage.
"Brown, Martin (NCI)" wrote:
A
Henry wrote:
The importance of this development is that the youths of China have finally
rediscover the right path, unlike the misguided students in Tiananmen
Square in
1989.
This sounds like hyperbole to me. None of the Marxists I know in China in
their correspondences with me are seeing a
A sister group at Stanford. Both groups published "expose" pamphlets about
UC and Stanford respectively. You know, youthful indiscretions we should
now be ashamed of. I think you are right that he is now at UC not Stanford.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL
How do you propose to get to a nonmarket socialism? Seems to me the
only hope is to bend, push, modify, transform what exists now, which
means, in Diane Elson's phrase, socializing markets. It seems
abstract and adventurist to talk about any postmarket socialism as if
you could just pull it
Justin, where you see socialism, I see the market. I do not trust any kinds of
markets to "feed the hungry, cloth the naked, shelter the unhoused, and make work
available to all and reasonably decent for many people for whom it is a torment or a
deadening bore."
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim:
Attacking Hayek for being too neoclassical is like attacking Marx for being too
neoclassical. Hayek, Mises, and the Austrians dislike NCE for many of the same reasons
that Marxists do: it's a poor description of actual markets (this is more Hayek than
Mises) and does not correctly model
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
Well, the first Marxist lesson is that what looks like
"'economic'/technical" issues can't be divorced from what looks like
"social/political/moral" ones. The system couldn't have reproduced
and expanded itself economically without state repression of various
kinds
A paper at the History of Economics session connected Hayek with A.
Carr-Saunders, an important eugenicist, who apparently inspired much of
Hayek's thinking on spontaneous order. I also used C.-S., many years ago,
because I was impressed with his analysis of pre-industrial women's
ability to
Doug, any reader of the Wall St. Journal could multiply examples like this
by some large exponent. But it wasn't my point to argue from this that
Capitalism is about to topple. My point is that markets aren't all that
omniscient -- or anything like even perceptive.
Gene Coyle
Doug Henwood
Oh right, struggle is what matters. The institutional arrangements
will take care of themselves if a properly righteous attitude is
applied to the problem.
Doug
What are institutional arrangements? I am afraid we are speaking different
languages.
Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list:
Louis Proyect wrote:
Oh right, struggle is what matters. The institutional arrangements
will take care of themselves if a properly righteous attitude is
applied to the problem.
Doug
What are institutional arrangements? I am afraid we are speaking different
languages.
How do get food on
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