nation state and capital

2001-12-29 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
> Rakesh Bhandari wrote: remember there are no nation states in Marx's theory; he begins with capital as a global social relation Which is a bit of a problem, because currencies are national, states are national, and markets in the larger countries are still largely national (around 90% in t

Re: Re: underconsumption undertow question

2001-12-29 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Doug'n'Jim, Sez Doug: > Must dissent here. The confidence numbers are a good leading > indicator of the bizcycle. They generally bottom about 3 months ahead > of the cyclical trough (and top out about 1-2 months ahead of the > peak). And the confidence numbers themselves - at least the > C

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread Bill Rosenberg
This is a very relevant question for New Zealand. Our textile, clothing and footwear (TCF) industry has been reduced from 40,000 to 20,000 workers over a decade, largely as a result of tariff cuts. Many of the remainder are at risk of being sacrificed to a FTA currently being negotiated with Hong

RE: Re: profit rate & recession

2001-12-29 Thread Devine, James
Bill Burgess writes: >I wondered about Jim D. not including circulating constant capital (basically materials) in explaining the change in the ROP, especially since this is an area there have been productivity gains.< I wrote: >>shouldn't an improvement in inventory management techniques help lab

Re: underconsumption undertow question

2001-12-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote: >I answered, adding some comments [in brackets]: there's a difference between (1) the problem of stagnant or falling >incomes and wealth limiting consumption and (2) the issue of consumer >confidence. The former refers to objective barriers, while the latter >refers to

Re: The Worker V. The Job

2001-12-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Max B. Sawicky wrote: >No nation's trade policy can be controlled by a labor movement unless >that movement is united on a national level. But no national union movement can be strong unless it has strong cross-border alliances. That's not dreamy lefty rhetoric, Max, that's very practical poli

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Enron's Success Story

2001-12-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Carl Remick wrote: >In that respect, I think the soft underbelly of the free-market >position would be lack of transparency that contributed to the >magnitude of the Enron collapse. But, Doug, you've seemed reluctant >in the past to identify this as a key issue -- e.g., I recall your >commen

underconsumption undertow question

2001-12-29 Thread Devine, James
Pen-l folks may be interested in the following. Seth Sandronsky forwarded a letter that said: >I have continued enjoying your [Seth Sandronsky's] articles on commondreams.org since the last time I wrote to you. Your latest article, "An Undertow of Underconsumption," discussed the spending slow

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
>Rakesh Bhandari wrote: > >>remember there are no nation states in Marx's theory; he begins >>with capital as a global social relation > >Which is a bit of a problem, because currencies are national, states >are national, and markets in the larger countries are still largely >national (around 9

Re: profit rate & recession

2001-12-29 Thread Bill Burgess
I wondered about Jim D. not including circulating constant capital (basically materials) in explaining the change in the ROP, especially since this is an area there have been productivity gains. Jim wrote >shouldn't an improvement in inventory management techniques help labor >productivity and

Greg Palast on Argentine crisis

2001-12-29 Thread Steve Diamond
Inside corporate America Time to cry for Argentina There are few tears from the IMF when a South American economy dies, but the latest cut, cut, cut reforms are the unkindest of all Gregory Palast Observer Sunday August 12, 2001 The news last week in South America was that Argentina had died,

Re: Re: Re: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Rakesh Bhandari wrote: >remember there are no nation states in Marx's theory; he begins with >capital as a global social relation Which is a bit of a problem, because currencies are national, states are national, and markets in the larger countries are still largely national (around 90% in th

Re: Re: Tobin Tax without the USA?

2001-12-29 Thread Alan Cibils
At 10:38 PM 12/29/2001 +0100, you wrote: >As long as dollar remains the planetary account unit of debt, floating >currencies remain more effective than a TT associated to a steady exchange >rate that would be as disastrous to Europe as it has been to Argentina. > >Regards, > >Romain Kroës > > T

Re: Tobin Tax without the USA?

2001-12-29 Thread Romain Kroes
In my opinion, the main weakness of the argument against an unilateral implementation of TT lies in the implicit hypothesis that speculation gets the power to govern and to move monetary flows. But such is, too, the weakness of TT which is to fight speculation in order to stabilize exchange

Re: bank run -- Argentina

2001-12-29 Thread Alan Cibils
Some thoughts based on the AP article and what I saw last night on the streets: It is true that people are pissed off about the banks situation, especially middle class floks. It is also true that the banking situation was a detonant of last night's protests. However, on an equal footing to pe

Re: Re: RE: Re: The Worker V. The Job

2001-12-29 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
oops i meant the afl cio has written FOR restrictive technology transfer policy. rb > >no it does not. you want others to share in textiles but the us >"super 301s" those who want to share in computers or aircraft; the >afl cio has actually written against restrictive technology transfer >wh

Re: RE: Re: The Worker V. The Job

2001-12-29 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
max wrote: > >mbs: then you're screwed. or somebody is screwed. but in general >there are no binaries, but more and less-plausible approaches. So >you find the one that allows for progress among all that is the >most plausible, or the least implausible. ok agreed. > > >mbs: the notion of

Re: Re: Farm "subsidy" data base

2001-12-29 Thread Tim Bousquet
Two of the local right-wing "free market" type pols are big recipients of subsidies for their rice operations. tim --- Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The scandal of the subsidies includes the fact that > many of the "farmers" > are not farmers at all; and that many of them > artifi

RE: Re: The Worker V. The Job

2001-12-29 Thread Max B. Sawicky
> What's fair and what is practical are not >necessarily the same. What if what's practical does not allow progress for all workers? mbs: then you're screwed. or somebody is screwed. but in general there are no binaries, but more and less-plausible approaches. So you find the one that allows

Re: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread William S. Lear
On Saturday, December 29, 2001 at 10:57:55 (-0800) Rakesh Bhandari writes: >Bill L writes: >> >>Wouldn't the foundation of this be full employment policies, say, as >>proposed by Jamie Galbraith? > >But what if the available full employment policy is the export of >unemployment? ... Most distast

Re: Re: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Bill L writes: > >Wouldn't the foundation of this be full employment policies, say, as >proposed by Jamie Galbraith? But what if the available full employment policy is the export of unemployment? galbraith has got his accomodating fed but deficits perhaps only 1/5th as big as he would like.

Re: The Worker V. The Job

2001-12-29 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Max writes: > >Is there some abstract, ethical distribution of capital? What if >there was? It wouldn't matter. One should ask, instead, what sort >of working class activity moves in the right direction. I would >suggest everything that brings capital under more democratic control-- >that reg

RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Enron's Success Story

2001-12-29 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Transparency is a big problem for free-marketeers. It is clearly a constituent part of efficiency, but its pursuit in the real world affronts corporations and leads some conservatives to defend lack of transparency as a property right. Asymmetric information is of course a major topic for Stiglit

The Worker V. The Job

2001-12-29 Thread Max B. Sawicky
DH: >>My soundbite is protect the worker, not the job, Welcome, fellow congregants. Today's sermon follows. There are good reasons to favor: refundable tax credits over minimum wage cash transfers over rent control dislocated worker benefits over import restrictions cash transfers rather tha

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Enron's Success Story

2001-12-29 Thread Carrol Cox
Carl Remick wrote: > > > > > >If you're going to fight an ideological opponent, you should have > >some sense of what the opponent thinks. > > > >Doug > You fight an ideological opponent by striving to change the reality which generates the ideology, which is the spontaneous reflection in hu

Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Enron's Success Story

2001-12-29 Thread Carl Remick
>Max Sawicky wrote: > >>The mere fact of a company failing, >>even a large one, is not a market failure. > >I'm away on an inter-holiday retreat, and only sporadically checking >email, so someone else may have made this point already. No free >marketeer would ever regard a big failure as an indict

China completes first tunnel on Qinghai-Tibet railway

2001-12-29 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Times of India WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 26, 2001 China completes first tunnel on Qinghai-Tibet railway BEIJING: In a remarkable engineering feat, China has successfully connected two sections of the first railway tunnel of the strategic Qinghai-Tibet Railway in a period of six months. The tunne

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Rakesh Bhandari wrote: >After this last post, I retract all criticism of Doug regarding >trade issues. He returned my vinegar with honey. He has thought >hard and long about the problems that we are facing. Thank you. A seasonally appropriate bit of peacemaking is always gratifying. >And I

Re: Re: Re: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Doug writes: > Your argument is with someone else, not me. Just to say it again: you are right, and I am wrong. Rakesh

Re: Re: Re: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
After this last post, I retract all criticism of Doug regarding trade issues. He returned my vinegar with honey. He has thought hard and long about the problems that we are facing. And I do benefit from his perspective that begins as always with the class struggle at home. All the best, Rakes

Re: Re: Re: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Rakesh Bhandari wrote: >>>Aside from that, don't U.S. textile and apparel workers deserve >>>some sort of attention? > >that's not the question; they get attention embodied in protective >law. And, excuse me, is that a question at all or is it an >accusation? Are you implying that I (with tha

Re: Re: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Rakesh Bhandari wrote: >>Aside from that, don't U.S. textile and apparel workers deserve >>some sort of attention? My soundbite is protect the worker, not the >>job, but I'd like to hear what you think should happen to >>disemployed workers in this sector, who are disproportionally >>nonwhite

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread Doug Henwood
Rakesh Bhandari wrote: >the timing suggests that the problem is the recession in which us >based plants are having difficulty holding market share, no? Yup. But you'd asked, not without a touch of suspcion, where the numbers came from, and I was answering. Doug

Re: Re: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread Michael Perelman
yes, that would certainly help. On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 06:33:57AM -0600, William S. Lear wrote: > On Friday, December 28, 2001 at 20:35:07 (-0800) Michael Perelman writes: > >Part of the question seems to be how do you organize in the absence of > >international solidarity? In short, how do you

Tobin Tax without the USA?

2001-12-29 Thread Chris Burford
From the latest ATTAC newsletter c/o  http://attac.org Comments and criticisms welcomed. Chris Burford London Is it possible to implement the Tobin tax in Europe alone? By Prof. Dr. Jörg Huffschmid, University of Bremen Preliminary remark The following text is not dedicated to the que

Re: Re: textiles

2001-12-29 Thread William S. Lear
On Friday, December 28, 2001 at 20:35:07 (-0800) Michael Perelman writes: >Part of the question seems to be how do you organize in the absence of >international solidarity? In short, how do you make Cambodian wages move >up instead of US wages moving down? Wouldn't the center of gravity of a >co

Brown warms to Tobin tax

2001-12-29 Thread Chris Burford
News..From..War..on..Want http://www.waronwant.org/tobin/update4.htm Tobin Tax Update Winter 2001-2002 A digest of news and action for the UK campaign for a tax on currency speculation Gordon Brown warms to Tobin tax British Chancellor Gordon Brown has responded positively to growing domes

bank run

2001-12-29 Thread Ian Murray
Fresh Money Protests in Argentina By Kevin Gray Associated Press Writer Saturday, December 29, 2001; 2:56 AM BUENOS AIRES, Argentina -- Riot police fired barrages of tear gas and rubber bullets early Saturday at rock-throwing demonstrators as a large but peaceful protest against government aust

solidarity

2001-12-29 Thread Ian Murray
Unions Step Up Their Services After Layoffs AFL-CIO Building Used As Temporary Jobless Center By Kirstin Downey Grimsley Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, December 29, 2001; Page E01 Video production editor Fritz Flad, 34, was taken aback last month when his boss called him into the office