Le Pen triumph thanks to ultra-leftists

2002-04-22 Thread Chris Burford
Time to read Dimitrov! The danger of fascism remains everywhere under conditions of bourgeois democracy. Not just in abstract. People get killed. The whole political spectrum lurches to the right. As the arithmetic shows, groups to the left of Jospin (who was not particularly 'Third Way'

SDR's for developing countries

2002-04-22 Thread Chris Burford
From Saturday's IMF press conference:- QUESTION: [inaudible]...have suggested that it is time to resume the allocation of special drawing rights. The G-24 also made a proposal that the rich countries should allocate their portion of the [inaudible] SDRs into a special fund for development. I

Re: Le Pen triumph thanks to ultra-leftists

2002-04-22 Thread ALI KADRI
Not so, but because the sort of left opportunism and disguised imperialism that Jospin's politics represents could drive france further to the right and to the left_ polarisation. also because french imperial interests abroad are undermined by the US. and because of a litany of reasons least of

Le Pen triumph thanks to ultra-leftists

2002-04-22 Thread bantam
G'day Ali, Sabri and Chris, Quoth Ali, Not so, but because the sort of left opportunism and disguised imperialism that Jospin's politics represents could drive france further to the right and to the left_ polarisation. also because french imperial interests abroad are undermined by the US.

Le Pen triumph thanks to ultra-leftists

2002-04-22 Thread bantam
Oh, and I think a presidential election in which half the country's voters don't get to express themselves might be a good chance to get preferential voting up. The spontaneous demonstrations in French cities that are under way as we speak must be channelled to some good purpose, surely? If it

Re: The political economy of indigenous societies

2002-04-22 Thread Louis Proyect
At 09:56 AM 4/22/2002 +0530, D.Parthasarathy wrote: An Australian aboriginal scholar had exactly the same perspective on the coups in Fiji against democratically elected governments. Since the governments were led by people of Indian origin, and the coups were accompanied by attacks on them,

Re: Le Pen triumph thanks to ultra-leftists

2002-04-22 Thread Louis Proyect
Chris Burford: Time to read Dimitrov! For PEN-L'ers who are not up on Communist Party history, Dmitrov was the head of the Comintern in the late 30s. His contribution to revolutionary strategy was the People's Front that advocated electoral blocs between socialist and capitalist parties. It lead

The Spirit Of Le Pen in Oz

2002-04-22 Thread bantam
G'day Penfolk, Just been watching some footage the national public service broadcaster must've acquired quietly from a human being within the private enterprise incarceration firm that 'looks after' middle-eastern refugees who manage actually to get to Australia. As a reward for escaping

The Blame Game

2002-04-22 Thread Max Sawicky
If all the energy going into condemning Greens, Trots, and what-not was devoted to thinking how the moderate left could fashion a stable, governing, productive majority, it might just happen. In the end, Gore and Jospin, despite huge advantages in money and media coverage relative to their left

Alabama offers union-free auto plant for Hyundai

2002-04-22 Thread Tim Shorrock
Globalization strikes home. Hyundai's unions formed the core of the militant Korean Confederation of Trade Unions. TS Labor Proposal Tipped Scales for Hyundai Alabama Plant Chosun Ilbo (South Korea's most conservative newspaper) April 22 Hyundai Motor was found to have chosen Alabama as the

Re: The Blame Game

2002-04-22 Thread Michael Perelman
Could the French election represent the end of the turd way, as Rob called it? Could it lead to more energetic organization? What does the rise in the non-voters mean? How much to the right of Gore is Chirac? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA

RE: Re: Le Pen triumph thanks to ultra-leftists

2002-04-22 Thread Devine, James
Louis writes:Carrying out the sort of tepid reformism characteristic of the Peoples Front, the socialist Jospin has done little to distinguish himself from the bourgeois politicians, so no wonder many workers decided to stay home. I agree. I doubt that the Trotskyists in France got the votes

Re: Re: The Blame Game

2002-04-22 Thread Shane Mage
Michael Perelman asks: ...How much to the right of Gore is Chirac? -- By American standards, Chirac is clearly to the left of Gore. Shane Mage

Re: Re: Re: The Blame Game

2002-04-22 Thread Romain Kroes
Michael Perelman asks: ...How much to the right of Gore is Chirac? -- By American standards, Chirac is clearly to the left of Gore. Shane Mage That's true. Additionally, there is very little difference between Chirac's party ant the Socialist one, but the ways of doing the same

Re: Re: Re: The Blame Game

2002-04-22 Thread Romain Kroes
La Lettre de l'irép n° 11, 22-04-02 __ http://www.edu-irep.org - Un judéo-nazisme est-il possible? Ou: de l'urgence de comprendre Auschwitz Is a Judaeo-Nazim possible? Or: of the urgency of understanding auschwitz http://www.edu-irep.org/forum_6.htm irép BP

US involvement in Venezuela Coup

2002-04-22 Thread Ken Hanly
Venezuela coup linked to Bush team Specialists in the 'dirty wars' of the Eighties encouraged the plotters who tried to topple President Chavez Observer Worldview Ed Vulliamy in New York Sunday April 21, 2002 The Observer The failed coup in Venezuela was closely tied to senior officials in

Re: Re: Re: Re: The Blame Game

2002-04-22 Thread Michael Perelman
I would like to know how accurate Romain's account is. How much were his voters reacting against immigration and crime vs. Maastricht and capitalist Globalization? On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 06:06:06PM +0200, Romain Kroes wrote: French people who voted for Le Pen have not become fascists,

Re: two recessions?

2002-04-22 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] New York Times/April 18, 2002 ECONOMIC SCENE Government Needs to Prime the Pump By JEFF MADRICK But the financial risks are high. And neither information technology nor free markets have eliminated the business

living in the corporate zoo

2002-04-22 Thread Ian Murray
Pressure of work Two models of capitalism, Anglo-Saxon and European, are on offer - and we've made the wrong choice Madeleine Bunting Monday April 22, 2002 The Guardian Across Europe, a major battle is developing over work. How hard do you need to work? What kind of job security can you

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Blame Game

2002-04-22 Thread Romain Kroes
I would like to know how accurate Romain's account is. How much were his voters reacting against immigration and crime vs. Maastricht and capitalist Globalization? Michael Perelman The question of immigration has not been an important matter in political discourses, even Le Pen's, for

Re: Le Pen triumph thanks to ultra-leftists

2002-04-22 Thread Shane Mage
Chris Burford, in the name of Stalin (aka Dimitrov) invokes a completely nonexistent fascist menace and thereby supports--Chirac! Typical. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Time to read

Re: Palestine Vietnam

2002-04-22 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Max B. Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Democratic left [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lbo-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Pen-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:30 PM Subject: Palestine Vietnam This is aimed at a couple of different lists, so parts of it that

Re: The Blame Game

2002-04-22 Thread Sabri Oncu
Romain writes: It is in the traditional communist places (Seine St Denis, Pas de Calais, Loraine, etc.) that Le Pen got the higher scores, not in the richest places where are traditionnally living the rightists and the fascists. And this is the responsibility of the French communist party.

The Plan

2002-04-22 Thread Ian Murray
Today's reading is from the Book of Corporate Life, Chapter 1, verses 1-15: 1. In the beginning was the Plan. 2. And then came the Assumptions. 3. And the Assumptions were without form. 4. And the Plan was without Substance. 5. And darkness was upon the face of the Workers. 6. And the

RE: Re: Palestine Vietnam

2002-04-22 Thread Max Sawicky
If it's not too obvious, it seems worth saying that the Middle East complex of issues -- fundamentalism, terrorist attacks on the U.S., oil, and Palestine -- is what will dominate U.S. political discourse for some time to come, much in the way that SE Asia did in decades past. The future

Re: living in the corporate zoo

2002-04-22 Thread Sabri Oncu
There is also an academic zoo, particularly in the US, and I would be happy to see a debate on that here on PEN-L, given that there are many academicians here. I believe, as indicated in the article Ian sent, like the French, the US academicians deserve the right to be lazy every now and then.

Argentina: Crocodile Tears

2002-04-22 Thread Sabri Oncu
Sympathy, but no cash Apr 22nd 2002 From The Economist Global Agenda As Argentina’s financial crisis continues to deepen, any hopes that new help might soon be forthcoming from the International Monetary Fund have quickly faded. Argentina will have to deliver concrete reforms first CROCODILE

Re: RE: Re: Palestine Vietnam

2002-04-22 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Max Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:58 AM Subject: [PEN-L:25283] RE: Re: Palestine Vietnam If it's not too obvious, it seems worth saying that the Middle East complex of issues -- fundamentalism, terrorist

Bethlehem to Jenin to Nablus: Notes from an International Civilian inPalestine

2002-04-22 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:37:56 -0400 From: jordan flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bethlehem to Jenin to Nablus X-Originating-IP: [62.219.240.47] To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notes from an international civilian in Palestine April 20, 2002 The horrors I've

Iraqi Kurds Planning to Oust Saddam

2002-04-22 Thread Michael Pugliese
Iraqi Kurds Planning to Oust Saddam By Salah Nasrawi Associated Press Writer The Associated Press Monday, April 22, 2002 CAIRO, Egypt -- Leaders of the two main Kurdish parties that control northern Iraq met with U.S. officials last week to coordinate efforts to remove Saddam Hussein from

RE: Re: living in the corporate zoo

2002-04-22 Thread Devine, James
Sabri writes: I believe, as indicated in the article Ian sent, like the French, the US academicians deserve the right to be lazy every now and then. sh*t, if I weren't lazy, I wouldn't have time to participate in pen-l. Academically yours, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Le Pen triumph thanks to ultra-leftists

2002-04-22 Thread Chris Burford
At 22/04/02 14:13 -0400, you wrote: Chris Burford, in the name of Stalin (aka Dimitrov) invokes a completely nonexistent fascist menace and thereby supports--Chirac! I know we all speed read, but this is a bizarre and baseless interpretation of my letter. Nor do I wish to imply that radical

Re: Alabama offers union-free auto plant for Hyundai

2002-04-22 Thread Michael Perelman
This article claims that the Alabama giveaway to Mercedes was a good deal of the state. It was, of course, about $170,000 in incentives per job. Brooks, Rick. 2002. Big Incentives Won Alabama a Piece of the Auto Industry. Wall Street Journal (3 April): p. A1. -- Michael Perelman Economics

Hypocrites

2002-04-22 Thread Michael Perelman
Today's WSJ has another one of those op-ed pieces saying a corporation cannot commit a crime; only individuals can. These people want to give the corps. all the benefits of individuals [free speech, etc.], but immunity from penalties. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State

Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-22 Thread Bill Burgess
At 11:17 AM 21/04/2002 +0800, Grant wrote: That wasn't my contention, which is more accurately that except for actual formal/military imperialism, (e.g. Britain in India) imperialist and imperialised have always been poles on a notional axis, rather than being distinct and permanent things. I

Re: living in the corporate zoo

2002-04-22 Thread Sabri Oncu
Jim writes: Sabri writes: I believe, as indicated in the article Ian sent, like the French, the US academicians deserve the right to be lazy every now and then. sh*t, if I weren't lazy, I wouldn't have time to participate in pen-l. Hey, not all of them are like you, you bloody sectarian.

Re: Hypocrites

2002-04-22 Thread Ian Murray
Of all the Supremes on the bench, only Rehnquist has explicitly come out against corporate 'personhood.' Frightening eh? According to a former attorney [who's currently researching the California constitutional convention] I spoke to over the weekend, the corps. are full throttle explicitly

gunboat diplomacy

2002-04-22 Thread Devine, James
from SLATE's on-line news summary:The [Wall Street JOURNAL's] Max Boot writes a column today in support of the peacekeepers. He notes, History is replete with examples of U.S. troops doing precisely such missions, and for the most part with considerable success. In our history lesson for the day,

April 2002: U.S.-made bomblet kills boy and woman in Vietnam

2002-04-22 Thread Charles Brown
April 2002: U.S.-made bomblet kills boy and woman in Vietnam Reuters. April 22, 2002 HANOI -- An 11-year-old boy and middle-aged woman were killed and three people hurt when a U.S.-made bomblet left over from the Vietnam War exploded at the weekend. An official of the People's Committee of Ky

Re: Re: Hypocrites

2002-04-22 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Ian Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:49 PM Subject: [PEN-L:25295] Re: Hypocrites Of all the Supremes on the bench, only Rehnquist has explicitly come out against corporate 'personhood.' Frightening eh? According

Re: gunboat diplomacy

2002-04-22 Thread Michael Perelman
No doubt protecting Roosevelt's grandpa, Captain Delano's opium shipments. A noble mission indeed. On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 03:46:56PM -0700, Devine, James wrote: from SLATE's on-line news summary:The [Wall Street JOURNAL's] Max Boot writes a column today in support of the peacekeepers. He

Re: Re: gunboat diplomacy

2002-04-22 Thread Ian Murray
Some of which probably coursed through C S Pierce's synaptic gaps.. - Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:02 PM Subject: [PEN-L:25300] Re: gunboat diplomacy No doubt protecting Roosevelt's grandpa,

Indo-Russia pact to sell Sukhois to Malaysia

2002-04-22 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Times of India SUNDAY, APRIL 21, 2002 Indo-Russia pact to sell Sukhois to Malaysia PTI NEW DELHI: Russia wants India to participate in the development of Sukhoi aircraft for the Royal Malaysian Air Force as the fighter jet sought by Kuala Lumpur would be a derivative of SU-30 MKI, which

Peron in a nutshell, or the prequel to Hugo Chavez

2002-04-22 Thread Louis Proyect
From the Corradi article on Argentina in Chilcote-Edelstein, Latin America: the struggle with dependency and beyond: An officer in the ministry of war, an important member of the GOU, Colonel Juan D. Perón, had asked and obtained the job of running the labor department. Perón was intelligent

Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada (Entrepôts)

2002-04-22 Thread Grant Lee
Bill R: Thanks for a very interesting post and the references, which I haven't had time to check yet. I haven't been able to pinpoint the exact quote, but somewhere in _Capital_ Marx (slightly tongue-in-cheek) quotes Adam Smith saying that all entrepôts are barbaric; Marx's point being that

World Bank, IMF Provoke Protests Worldwide

2002-04-22 Thread Sabri Oncu
of the democratic contract is downright dangerous. Full at: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/oneworld/20020422/ wl_oneworld/1032_1019487948 Oneworld at: http://www.oneworld.net

The coming Turkish Raki Crisis.

2002-04-22 Thread Sabri Oncu
It is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when. We will see. Sabri == Concerns mount around lira's strength Turkish Daily News April 22, 2002 Concerns have recently mounted around the strength in the value of the lira, which was once regarded as a blessing that could