[PEN-L:2850] Re: Fwd: stripes for the backs of fools

1999-02-03 Thread James Michael Craven
Bill, That explanation was considered (official position of the Curches was that the scratches were for TB testing) Out of 20 pysicians in Alberta randoming consulted, not one said that these marks could have been related to any known past or present medical procedure or test). Further, these

[PEN-L:2668] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: intern needed

1999-01-27 Thread James Michael Craven
On 27 Jan 99 at 14:32, Tavis Barr wrote: > > STOP!!! PLEASE!!! I referred an intern to Doug once and she had a great > _working_ experience. No interaction with or complaints about his libido. > > Cheers, > Tavis > > > > On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > At 12:36 PM 1/2

[PEN-L:2628] Appeal for Help

1999-01-26 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:14:24 EST To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Radio show of interest: Yet Another CIA Deadly Screwup? Jim: Welcome to the real warSomething "strange" is right...My sho

[PEN-L:2620] Re: Re: Immutability of Subjects

1999-01-26 Thread James Michael Craven
> Do I have to spell it out? You know, lump as in "immutable", labour as in > "labouring subject". The problem with many pomoistas, from my experience, is > that they seem to be so interested in endlessly "talking about doing" > something that they don't notice when it is actually being done.

[PEN-L:2600] Re: "Church-State-Corporate Triangle" series (

1999-01-25 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:36:27 EST To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: "Church-State-Corporate Triangle" series ( Jim: Thanks for the note. I just wanted to make sure you saw these last two artic

[PEN-L:2593] Tribunal

1999-01-25 Thread James Michael Craven
The Pikanii Nation of the Blackfoot Confederacy Post Office Box 430, Browning, Montana USA 59417 406-338-2882 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:2521] Radio show of interest: Yet Another CIA Deadly Screwup?

1999-01-24 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 03:16:36 EST Subject: Radio show of interest: Yet Another CIA Deadly Screwup? THE EXPERT WITNESS RADIO SHOW WBAI New York City (99.5 FM-Tuesdays 7-8pm)) KPFK Los Angeles (90.7 FM)

[PEN-L:2478] HES: QUERY -- Institutionalization of Neoclassicism

1999-01-22 Thread James Michael Craven
Comments? Jim --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Colander, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: HES: QUERY -- Institutionalization of Neoclassicism Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:33:36 EST Reply-to:

[PEN-L:2379] Re: Re: Re: Re: Judith Butler, etc.

1999-01-20 Thread James Michael Craven
On 20 Jan 99 at 19:30, Dennis R Redmond wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, James Michael Craven wrote: > > > I wonder how many working class women or women on Reservations could > > relate to or understand the rhetoric in the example of Butler's > > writings give

[PEN-L:2356] Re: Re: Judith Butler, etc.

1999-01-20 Thread James Michael Craven
Comment: Not as an "excuse" but if that empty pretentious rhetoric and totured syntax given in the example from Butler that won the Doublespeak/Gobbledegook Prize is an example of her normal prose and speech, I would need at least six Captain Morgan spiced Rums to go to hear her and six more t

[PEN-L:2314] Re: Re: 1998 Bad Writing Contest winners

1999-01-19 Thread James Michael Craven
Response: Absolutely dead on in my opinion. There are many forms of language and modes of communication/miscommunication/deceptive communication and just like the meaningless and overblown tortured syntax, caricatures and empty of real rhetoric (to persuade you must be understood) shown below

[PEN-L:2297] Re: Re: Judith Butler, etc.

1999-01-19 Thread James Michael Craven
On 19 Jan 99 at 8:39, Gerald Levy wrote: > Barkley asks: > > > Are you happy now, Jerry? > > Not yet. > > Had a published "review" of your book been authored by someone who > admitted (afterwards) that s/he only read the dust jacket, would your > response be so cavalier? > > I doubt it. > >

[PEN-L:2273] Re: Re: Judith Butler, Alan Sokal and Doug Henwood

1999-01-18 Thread James Michael Craven
I enter this with some trepidation. I have read only portions of Judith Butler's work. Frankly, I just dropped it because the Talcott Parson-like tortured syntax coupled with pomobabble along with the soc/antho/econ penchant for telling people what they already know or is obvious in language f

[PEN-L:2197] (Fwd) (Fwd) Information

1999-01-15 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "James Michael Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Clark College, Vancouver WA, USA To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:48:38 PST8PDT Subject: (Fwd) Information --- Forwarded

[PEN-L:2196] (Fwd) RE: Email Addresses for NASC

1999-01-15 Thread James Michael Craven
Dear Pen-l Friends, I have been "allowed" to contact pen-l and 21 other addresses while there is a decision pending whether or not I will be banned permanently from contacting those addresses from work. Part of the change was due to union pressure and also my colleague Gerry Smith put the hea

[PEN-L:1458] Re: HES: QUERY -- welfare theory and Mussolini

1998-12-10 Thread James Michael Craven
On 10 Dec 98 at 11:00, Ross B. Emmett wrote: > == HES POSTING > > I received the following query today from a graduate student in > economics. Since I have no idea about the answer, I am presenting it to > the list for feedback. Responses will be forwarded to

[PEN-L:1453] New Zealand pushing for producer board

1998-12-10 Thread James Michael Craven
On 9 Dec 98 at 19:51, Ken Hanly wrote: > James Michael Craven wrote: > > > > > > Comment: What exactly is "empirical" about neoclassical economics? > > > RESPONSE: While I agree with much in the material you enclosed, at the > level of particul

[PEN-L:1440] Re: New Zealand pushing for producer board reforms

1998-12-09 Thread James Michael Craven
On 9 Dec 98 at 16:34, Ken Hanly wrote: This material is from Reuters (Wellington N.Z.) and appear in the Manitoba Co-operator for October 29, 1998, p. 25) The New Zealand government on October 20 stepped up efforts to convince farmers that producer board reform was in their interests. C

[PEN-L:1423] UofAz: education without ethics

1998-12-09 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- To:ishgooda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, NACF News <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sovernet-l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: KOLA International Campaign Office <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: UofAz: education without ethics Date: We

[PEN-L:1420] CANADA's Transcript on Self-Determination

1998-12-09 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1904 01:40:03 +0100 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: NetWarriors/WarriorNET Network <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: CANADA's Transcript on Self-Determination Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --_26161

[PEN-L:1419] "Fields on Wheels Conference"

1998-12-09 Thread James Michael Craven
Paul, I guess I didn't make myself clear enough. I support the Wheat Board idea and practice of marketing wheat, and you know what I think of neoclassical economics which I regard as the AIDS of economics. If Harly were going to sell to Cargill in Great Falls, I would argue that you can't hav

[PEN-L:1411] Response: The New Boss

1998-12-09 Thread James Michael Craven
On 8 Dec 98 at 19:24, Ken Hanly wrote: > James Michael Craven wrote: > > > > Response: > > 1. Harley Frank was not smuggling cigarettes or running a Casino or whatever; he is a farmer. But activities such as cigarette smuggling and casinos, very injurious to Indigenou

[PEN-L:1378] Baloney!: US DEFINES SELF-DETERMINATION FOR INDIGENOUS P

1998-12-08 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Boyle, Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Baloney!: US DEFINES SELF-

[PEN-L:1377] AGENDA CHANGES!

1998-12-08 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Boyle, Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: AGENDA CHANGES! Date:

[PEN-L:1375] Response: The New Boss

1998-12-08 Thread James Michael Craven
fishing practices. Jim Craven On 8 Dec 98 at 15:21, Ken Hanly wrote: > James Michael Craven wrote: > The Wheat Board is no angel, though I doubt it has any genocidal intension in > prosecuting Frank, even though requiring an export permit may alter traditional >modes of > ac

[PEN-L:1361] Re: The New Boss

1998-12-08 Thread James Michael Craven
Response (Jim Craven) Let me provide another view for consideration--the case of Harley Frank, a Kainai Blackfoot. Among the Pikuni (Blackfoot) People there are three main "Tribes": Siksika (Blackfoot), Kainai (Blood) and Peigan (Pikuni). The Siksika and Kainai Reserves are in Alberta and the

[PEN-L:1351] (Fwd) HONOR OUR ANCESTORS RALLY

1998-12-07 Thread James Michael Craven
December 3, 1998 E-MAIL MESSAGE FROM COLVILLE COMMUNICATION SERVICES, NESPELEM, WA. TO: VARIOUS PARTIES FR: Sheila Whitelaw, Press Secretary, Colville Business Council Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation, Nespelem, WA RE: HONOR OUR ANCESTORS PRESS ADVISORY Please find attache

[PEN-L:1332] ONTARIO IN ACTION!

1998-12-07 Thread James Michael Craven
Gerald Keddy House of Commons Parliament Buildings Ottawa, On K1A 0A6 Dear Sir, I am writing to you regarding the United Nations Draft Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples which is currently under review by the UN Intersessional Working Group in Geneva. As you may already know,

[PEN-L:1331] Response Re: Sovereign Nations Within a Nation

1998-12-07 Thread James Michael Craven
be passed on to non-Status Indians. If this goes through, there will be ample grounds to impeach Clinton far more serious than blow-jobs in the Oral Office. Jim Craven On 7 Dec 98 at 12:54, Ken Hanly wrote: > James Michael Craven wrote: > Surely the position of the US reps. involve

[PEN-L:1322] Sovereign Nations Within a Nation

1998-12-07 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "James Michael Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Clark College, Vancouver WA, USA To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:04:36 PST8PDT Subject: Sovereign Nations

[PEN-L:1292] Begish: Open Letter to HAARP Supporters

1998-12-06 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 13:26:39 -0800 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Wes Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MC] Begish: Open Letter to HAARP Supporters Reply-to: Wes Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- F

[PEN-L:1276] (Fwd) (Fwd) A Life Lesson

1998-12-05 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "James Michael Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Clark College, Vancouver WA, USA To:"Campus Master List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:02:59 PST8PDT Subject:

[PEN-L:1235] Re: Re: Re: Ford and GM's Nazi ties

1998-12-04 Thread James Michael Craven
Response: So would courage on this man's part been to have joined the "America First" Movement? Of course World War II was an inter-imperialist war in many respects; but the everyday airmen, sailors, soldiers were used as cannon fodder and little to do with that. And once the war began, the de

[PEN-L:1209] Re: Re: pen-l questions

1998-12-03 Thread James Michael Craven
On 3 Dec 98 at 16:07, Michael Perelman wrote: I very much appreciate Jim Devine's question that he put to all of us. I think that those economists among us could do more to help each other, enlighten each other, and to find ways to contribute to social change. Like Jim, I enjoy the banter

[PEN-L:1208] One More Thought

1998-12-03 Thread James Michael Craven
Valis, One more thought: The Administrator and Politician as Slave "Before delivering a Law Day speech at a Western university, I attended a reception with its president. By the time the evening was over, the poor man had osculated the hindquarters of every dowager and shaky old fossil who m

[PEN-L:1200] Re: Re: Ford and GM's Nazi ties

1998-12-03 Thread James Michael Craven
On 3 Dec 98 at 9:59, Jim Devine wrote: does anyone know about the truth of the story (that circulated years ago and I think first appeared in RAMPARTS magazine) that the Allied air forces deliberately refrained from bombing GM- and Ford-owned factories in greater Germany during World War II?

[PEN-L:1199] A Thought

1998-12-03 Thread James Michael Craven
To the Campus Community: In the spirit of our Campus-wide Abilities and in the spirit of the real "business" of Clark College--education--and two of the essential foundations of real education--Free Speech and Acadmemic Freedom: "The zoo, the walls, the wire mesh above. Slam up against th

[PEN-L:1165] NDP BC's continuing "child protection" genocide (fwd)

1998-12-02 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 01:24:31 -0800 (PST) From: John Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: James Michael Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: NDP BC's continuing "child protection" genocide (fwd)

[PEN-L:1159] (Fwd) Capital and "Patriotism"

1998-12-01 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "James Michael Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Clark College, Vancouver WA, USA To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 13:08:50 PST8PDT Subject:

[PEN-L:1158] "War is a Racket"

1998-12-01 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "James Michael Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Clark College, Vancouver WA, USA To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 10:59:49 PST8PDT Subject: [PEN-L:1029] "War is a Racket&q

[PEN-L:1157] (Fwd) Capital and "Patriotism"

1998-12-01 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "James Michael Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Clark College, Vancouver WA, USA To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:37:46 PST8PDT Subject:

[PEN-L:1156] Re: Re: US auto Nazis

1998-12-01 Thread James Michael Craven
On 1 Dec 98 at 21:58, Tom Kruse wrote: > John Barkley Rosser Jr. notes: > > > The top story in yesterday's Washington Post was about > >a likely class action suit that will be brought against > >Ford Motor Co. and also probably against General Motors by > >former slave laborers who worke

[PEN-L:1194] Emergency civil liberties appeal for Jim C

1998-11-24 Thread James Michael Craven
Comment on Barkley's Comments (Jim Craven) 1) Without painting a broad brush for all administrators, I do believe that Plato's axiom--"Those who seek power are invariably the least fit to wield it"--does indeed apply to many if not most of the administrators with whom I have had dealings or ha

[PEN-L:1192] Re: residential school activists on "hit list" (fwd)

1998-11-24 Thread James Michael Craven
Dear Friends on Pen-l I am writing to thank all of you who wrote in to the President of my College in support of this struggle in which I am involved. From the material below, it should be clear that this is about more that academic freedom, freedom from harassment in the workplace, freedom o

[PEN-L:983] Residential school settlement: All in the family (fwd)

1998-11-10 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:17:03 -0800 (PST) From: John Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: James Michael Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Residential school settlement: All in the family (fwd) fyi - typi

[PEN-L:967] Re: Re: unemployed Ph.D.

1998-11-09 Thread James Michael Craven
On 9 Nov 98 at 20:20, michael perelman wrote: > I am sorry that Paul thought that I was criticizing his post. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > 1. I don't think/believe that university teaching is the only > > unalienated application of academic training. > > Indeed, I spent three years wor

[PEN-L:962] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: unemployed Ph.D.'s

1998-11-09 Thread James Michael Craven
Later the same year, Andrei Zhdanov, Stalinism's principal ideologue proclaimed the symmetrical doctrine which divided the world into imperialist and anti-imperialist camps. The Cold War had begun. Excuse me, but this USIA/Radio Free Europe-level rendition of the origins of the "Cold War"

[PEN-L:869] United Church makes res-school apology

1998-11-04 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:37:42 -0800 To:(Recipient list suppressed) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (S.I.S.I.S.) Subject: United Church makes res-school apology 1. United Church makes res-school apology 2. Res-schools: Governme

[PEN-L:737] Re: Re: Indian gambling casinos

1998-10-29 Thread James Michael Craven
On 29 Oct 98 at 8:03, James Devine wrote: > I can see the downside of Indian gambling casios _compared to_ say, a > rational investment policy for the reservations involving education, > improved technology, and the like (I'll let the Indians decide what they > need here). But this doesn't tell m

[PEN-L:735] drug experiments on children

1998-10-29 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:46:04 -0500 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Lynne Moss-Sharman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MC] drug experiments on children Reply-to: Lynne Moss-Sharman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alberta sterilizat

[PEN-L:652] Re: Re: Student Feedback

1998-10-24 Thread James Michael Craven
On 22 Oct 98 at 20:50, valis wrote: > Jim Craven proudly announces, in part: . > > Today a student came up to me at said that he wanted to thank me for > > the course I gave that it has changed his life. .. > > Instead he just said that my course had got him laid b

[PEN-L:621] Student Feedback

1998-10-22 Thread James Michael Craven
All of us know the feeling of having students returning years after finishing our courses to let us know they are doing well, making more money than we do and got something valuable--perhaps even life-changing-- from our courses. Today a student came up to me at said that he wanted to thank me

[PEN-L:618] Columbus arrested, deported from Eugene, Oregon

1998-10-22 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Wed, 21 Oct10:19:59 -0700 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "S.I.S.I.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PR: Columbus arrested, deported from Eugene, Oregon Please send comments or inquiries about this post to the original

[PEN-L:332] Part 2 "The Enemy of my Enemy"

1998-10-01 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "James Michael Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Clark College, Vancouver WA, USA To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Seliger), [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:54:43

[PEN-L:279] NCAA v. ILLINIWAK

1998-09-28 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Boyle, Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: NCAA v. ILLINIWAK Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:15:08 -0500 The following Editorial is from the September 28, 1998 issue of The NCAA News

[PEN-L:134] Article on Makah Whale Hunt (corrected)

1998-09-11 Thread James Michael Craven
PILGRIM'S PROGRESS Paul Watson allies with a far-right Republican in his fight against aboriginal whaling by: M-J Milloy HOUR Magazine Montreal, Quebec 10.9.98/page 12 www.afterhour.com It took the early white missionaries and explorers weeks to navigate the rugged coastline of northern Washin

[PEN-L:118] Peltier - Please help (fwd)

1998-09-11 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:23:57 -0800 To:(Recipient list suppressed) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (S.I.S.I.S.) Subject: Peltier - Please help (fwd) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:40:42 -0700

[PEN-L:117] "Logic" of Profit/Power

1998-09-11 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:32:01 -0400 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Lynne Moss-Sharman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MC] AIDS Canada - Clinton connection Reply-to: Lynne Moss-Sharman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Friday 11 Sept

[PEN-L:106] Apology to Max

1998-09-10 Thread James Michael Craven
Max, I agree with what you are saying and see--possibly--where it is coming from. But you know, the highest tribute and honor to the victims of the nazi Holocaust--Jewish and non-Jewish-- is to learn and apply the lessons (paid for with horrible suffering and death) that flow inexorably from

[PEN-L:104] Indigenous peoples and death by "acciden

1998-09-10 Thread James Michael Craven
well aware that there are many Indian tribes that > have been completely wiped out, both physically and > culturally, in some cases as the result of conscious effort > and design by European immigrants or their descendents. > Although generally there were fewer people involved,

[PEN-L:94] Apology to Max

1998-09-10 Thread James Michael Craven
Max, If I in any way miscontrued or misunderstood your position or confused with with Barkley's I sincerely apologize. I do not believe that in my response to either you or Barkley I was hurling invective as I tried to present my position with supporting evidence and/or reasoning and/or suppo

[PEN-L:82] Makah Whale Hunt

1998-09-10 Thread James Michael Craven
PILGRIM'S PROGRESS Paul Watson allies with a far-right Republican in his fight against aboriginal whaling by: M-J Milloy HOUR Magazine Montreal, Quebec 10.9.98/ page 12 www.afterhour.com It took the early white missionaries and explorers weeks to navigate the rugged coastline of northern

[PEN-L:68] Re: RE: Re: Indigenous peoples and death by "acciden

1998-09-10 Thread James Michael Craven
Response to Max: With all due respect Max, this is why this Jewish exclusivism vis-a-vis ONE Holocausts and ONE group of victims that were unique in that they were specifically targeted for extermination is so pernicious and feels for other victims of THE Holocaust or victims of other Holoca

[PEN-L:62] (Fwd) BC's Round Lake Treatment Center Sex-abuse Case

1998-09-10 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:14:05 -0800 To:(Recipient list suppressed) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (S.I.S.I.S.) Subject: BC's Round Lake Treatment Center Sex-abuse Case NATIVE DRUG CENTRE FACES SEX-ABUSE SUIT Vancouver Sun, A

[PEN-L:46] Koreans and Indians

1998-09-09 Thread James Michael Craven
Oh, the historical as well as present-day parallels are so striking: >From Marty Hart-Landsberg's "Korea:Division, Reunification and U.S. Foreign Policy", Monthly Review Press, NY, 1998 p. 46 : "In 1871 the U.S. Asiatic Squadron sent five warships to Korea, in part to avenge the 1866 killings

[PEN-L:45] Marty's Book

1998-09-09 Thread James Michael Craven
I just received today from Marty Hart-Landberg a copy of his book "Korea: Division, Reunification, and U.S. Foreign Policy", Monthly Review Press, 1998 and I'm already over half-way through it because I just can't put it down (except for a few pauses to give some of my comments on various ma

[PEN-L:44] Re: Re: Re: rude jokes heard at lunch

1998-09-09 Thread James Michael Craven
Response: Yes I understand what you mean, but then again "gallows humor" is less funny to the one going to the gallows. Sometimes these kinds of jokes desensitize to the true magnitude and horrors for the victims of that about which the joke is being made and desensitization is useful for thos

[PEN-L:43] (Fwd) Prime Ministerial involvment in Gustafsen Lake

1998-09-09 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:08:58 -0700 (PDT) From: John Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Prime Ministerial involvment in Gustafsen Lake Revelations have emerged and are making headlines that the Pr

[PEN-L:40] Re: rude jokes heard at lunch

1998-09-09 Thread James Michael Craven
> 2. Joe discovers that his girlfriend is packing her bags and moving out of > his apartment. When he asks why, she says "I can't stand your pedophilia." > Says he: "that's a pretty big word for a 10-year old!" > > Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & > http://clawww.lmu.edu/Departments/ECON/jdevine.

[PEN-L:39] Re: Re: Indigenous peoples and death by "accidental"

1998-09-09 Thread James Michael Craven
Response: Jim C Barkley, with all due respect, if you think Louis' comments are "overdone" I would suggest that you read the works of Bartolome de Las Casas who was a contemporary of Columbus and eye-witness to many of the practices of the Spaniards. See: "The Spanish Colonie" and "Historia d

[PEN-L:35] Fidel's speech

1998-09-09 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Roland Chrisjohn, Ph. D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fw: Fidel's speech Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:01:26 -0400 Kahn-Tineta's morning message to me... -- > From: Kahn-Tineta Horn

[PEN-L:34] Alternate Indigenous NAFTA Summit Calgary (fwd)

1998-09-09 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:39:55 -0700 (PDT) From: John Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Alternate Indigenous NAFTA Summit Calgary (fwd) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 09 Sep 19

[PEN-L:32] (Fwd) Leonard needs our help

1998-09-09 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 22:21:48 -0700 Subject: Leonard needs our help From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur J Miller) PLEASE POST WIDELY NORTHWEST LEONARD PELTIER SUPPORT NETWORK P.O. Box 5464 Tacoma, WA 9

[PEN-L:19] (Fwd) Indigenous Peoples Tribunal Indictment (1992)

1998-09-08 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Boyle, Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:"'AALS Section on Minority Grps. mailing list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Indigenous Peoples Tribunal Indictment (1992) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:00:45 -050

[PEN-L:17] (Fwd) Fw: CANADA AND US HOLDING NAFTA FIRST NATIONS SUMMIT IN

1998-09-08 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Roland Chrisjohn, Ph. D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fw: CANADA AND US HOLDING NAFTA FIRST NATIONS SUMMIT IN CALGARY Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:14:07 -0400 This was the initial message...

[PEN-L:16] Hannibal Lecterwy430@victoria.tc.ca

1998-09-08 Thread James Michael Craven
(From "A Little Matter of Genocide: Holocaust and Denial in the Americas 1492 to the Present" by Ward Churchill, City Lights Books, San Francisco 1997 pp. 93-94) The Specter of Hannibal Lecter "At this juncture, the entire planet is locked, figuratively, in a room with

[PEN-L:13] Re: Re: Re: Re: taboo2: of wolves and waves and sour

1998-09-08 Thread James Michael Craven
On 8 Sep 98 at 15:17, William S. Lear wrote: > On Tue, September 8, 1998 at 12:17:22 (-0700) michael perelman writes: > > My read on > >history is that crises open up possibilities, but do not necessarily > >cause people to analyze the o

[PEN-L:1498] NCAA v. ILLINIWAK et al.

1998-09-03 Thread James Michael Craven
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Boyle, Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: NCAA v. ILLINIWAK et al. Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:35:21 -0500 -- From: Boyle, Francis Sent: Thursday, Septem

[PEN-L:1493] Re: Re: Last Message, How to Confront Holocaust De

1998-09-03 Thread James Michael Craven
m On 3 Sep 98 at 8:31, jf noonan wrote: > On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, James Michael Craven wrote: > > > How to Confront Holocaust Deniers > > > > 3) Do not discuss only the Jewish victims of the Nazi Holocaust > > Unless you're trying to open a Holocaust museum in N

[PEN-L:1492] Education of our youth

1998-09-03 Thread James Michael Craven
>From the World Book Encyclopedia, circa 1920 "What is a Mexican? Mexico had in 1910 a population of about 15,112,600 people; an accurate census has never been taken because of the superstitious fears of the people. When a census taker appears they conceal from him as many facts as possible, t

[PEN-L:1490] Re: Nizkor-l: Re: Briefly followup to Frances'

1998-09-03 Thread James Michael Craven
On 3 Sep 98 at 12:14, Andrew Mathis wrote: > just what the hell is the matter w/you, anyway? haven't you gotten the > message? your contributions to the nizkor-l list turned out to be > something less than appreciated, if not exactly for the reasons you > fantasize > > why not just call it a

[PEN-L:1477] Re: Briefly followup to Frances' post

1998-09-03 Thread James Michael Craven
On 3 Sep 98 at 10:26, Frances Bolton (PHI) wrote: > > Just wanted to comment on my use of the word "goyim." I was speaking > within the context of the young Jewish wish to create a new Jew. Hope no > one was insulted. > > fb > > > On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Frances Bolton (PHI) wrote: > > > Max,

[PEN-L:1467] Re: RE: The full dimensions of the Holocaust

1998-09-03 Thread James Michael Craven
On 3 Sep 98 at 9:49, Max Sawicky wrote: > > . . . > >that there are some references--e.g. certain Zionist leaders > >collaborating with Nazis to get young and religious Jews to Palestine and > leave older and more secular Jews to the gas chambers . . . >> > > Although I've read some about nazi-

[PEN-L:1437] Nazi link with medical experimentation in Ca

1998-09-02 Thread James Michael Craven
Dear Marco, Thanks for the note. I hope that you continue serious scholarship on some of these vital questions. When I was a Tribal Judge at a recent UN-sponsored Tribunal in Vancouver, B.C. we had some solid evidence of torture techniques used on Indians that were employed by "religious elem

[PEN-L:1436] Last Message, How to Confront Holocaust Deniers

1998-09-02 Thread James Michael Craven
How to Confront Holocaust Deniers 1) Do not take them on on their own turf; do not go as the "token opposition" to forums packed with their own kind, that are basically put on for publicity and narcissism; 2) Serious research the organizational, political and funding connections between indiv

[PEN-L:1434] Re: Nizkor-l: (Fwd) Were Nazis in "Solidarity" With America

1998-09-02 Thread James Michael Craven
On 2 Sep 98 at 23:29, Dene Bebbington wrote: > James Michael Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >--- Forwarded Message Follows --- > >From: "James Michael Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Organization: Clark College, Vancouver

[PEN-L:1433] Re: Re: hey asshole

1998-09-02 Thread James Michael Craven
On 2 Sep 98 at 18:30, Louis Proyect wrote: > Jim Craven wrote: > >Poor Louis, > > > >See why he left this nizkor list. I just came on the list hoping to > >get/share some information on the issues with which the Nizkor > >project deals as I have been resarching in this area--among > >others--

[PEN-L:1432] The full dimensions of the Holocaust

1998-09-02 Thread James Michael Craven
On 2 Sep 98 at 15:33, Andrew Mathis wrote: > hey jerk, > > all find and good, except you posted your friend louis' rant against > this list to the very list he was attacking in the first place. you > accused me of not reading your propaganda. i read it enough to catch > that, eh? > > does t

[PEN-L:1429] hey asshole

1998-09-02 Thread James Michael Craven
ctual conviction. Jim --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "James Michael Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Clark College, Vancouver WA, USA To:"Andrew Mathis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:

[PEN-L:1427] Correction

1998-09-02 Thread James Michael Craven
On Louis Proyect's long missive in which I and others were quoted and my background described, I would like to make one correction so that there is no misrepresentation--due in no way to Louis. I am a member of the Blackfoot Confederacy whose Blackfoot blood-quantum has been acknowledged but I

[PEN-L:1425] The enemy of my enemy...

1998-09-02 Thread James Michael Craven
An old aphorism, usually attributed as being Arabic but actually is said in many languages, goes: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." This is usally employed as a justification for all sorts of unprincipled alliances and Faustian Bargains e.g.: Israel supports the Apartheid Regime of South A

[PEN-L:1406] What if...?

1998-09-01 Thread James Michael Craven
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[PEN-L:1404] pt 2 The Circle Game

1998-09-01 Thread James Michael Craven
Part 2 of Excerpts from a Speech by Dr. Roland Chrisjohn on "The Circle Game" given in Edmonton, Alberta (date unknown) "...we must misunderstand Indian Residential School to the extent to which we think that the pathology in the system lies within the survivors of the individual survivors of

[PEN-L:1398] "The Circle Game" Part I

1998-09-01 Thread James Michael Craven
The following are exercepts from a Speech by Dr. Roland Chrisjohn, member of the Iroquois Confederacy (Oneida), Healer ("Psychologist") delivered in Edmonton, Alberta (date unknown) "Residential schools were one of many attempts at the genocide of the Aboriginal Peoples inhabiting the area

[PEN-L:1371] Canada's Secret Indian Archives

1998-08-31 Thread James Michael Craven
LAWYER CONVINCED OF SECRECY Alberni Valley News, August 25, 1998 [S.I.S.I.S. note: The following mainstream news article may contain biased or distorted information and may be missing pertinent facts and/or context. It is provided for reference only.] NANAIMO - The federal government has sec

[PEN-L:1370] "Inferior People"

1998-08-31 Thread James Michael Craven
The following essay "Inferior People" was taken from "America Besieged" by Michael Parenti, City Lights Books, San Francisco, 1998 "Inferior People" For centuries, colonialists have justified their mistreatment of other peoples by portraying them as lacking et

[PEN-L:1365] Nizkor Project

1998-08-31 Thread James Michael Craven
A la Louis' endorsement of the Nizkor Project, I would also endorse all to visit and read there. Among many things one will find the Red and Blue Book series of Nuremburg Trial documents and transcripts well worth reading. I use this source continually with reference to work I do on the questi

[PEN-L:1364] Re: Re: Krugman Column

1998-08-31 Thread James Michael Craven
On 31 Aug 98 at 15:26, michael perelman wrote: > Can anybody read the Krugman column or is the troll up to one of his tricks? > -- > Michael Perelman > Economics Department > California State University > Chico, CA 95929 > > Tel. 916-898-5321 > E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I can't read it and I a

[PEN-L:1363] Re: Nazis

1998-08-31 Thread James Michael Craven
On 31 Aug 98 at 17:38, Louis Proyect wrote: > Apropos of Barkley Rosser's comments on Russian Swastikas and Jim Craven's > (on PEN-L only) citation from "Trading With The Enemy: An Expose of the > Nazi-American Money Plot 1933-1949," by Charles Higham, I should mention > that I have been in a mon

[PEN-L:1350] Capital and "Patriotism"

1998-08-31 Thread James Michael Craven
The following is exerpted from "Trading With The Enemy: An Expose of the Nazi-American Money Plot 1933-1949, by Charles Higham, Dell Books, N.Y. 1983 "What would have happened if millions of American an British people, struggling with coupons and lines at the gas stations, had learned that in

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