Ralph Nader on the November 2000 ballot without his Green
Party affiliation, a federal appeals court ruled yesterday.
Ohio officials said the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling
upholds the state's position that it has authority to impose
reasonable requirements for ballot listings to ensure
Protection Clause of the Fourteenth
Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and under 42 U.S.C. § 1983.
Plaintiffs challenge the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania's requirement
blockquoteOhio had authority to list the name of presidential
candidate Ralph Nader on the November 2000 ballot without his Green
Party
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 8:32 AM
many technical/procedural/justice problems arise from 1787
constitutional language assigning each state authority to determine
times, places, manner of holding elections...
meant to note in above portion of earlier point that congress may at any
time by law
, but in his run for Gov., much
of his attack on Davis what almost identical to what the Republicans said. He would
mention some progressive positions, but he devoted most of his time to fiscal
responsibility.
In the debate Cobb came off as a well-intentioned Green. Not strong, but nice
sincere, but he
')
It would be ironic if Cobb/LaMarche are on the Green Party ballots in
one-party states and Nader/Camejo are on the ballots in battleground
states.
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/
* Greens for Nader: http://greensfornader.net/
* Bring Them Home Now! http
party
has ballot status save two - florida and michigan (drum roll please
- so-called 'battlegrounds')
It would be ironic if Cobb/LaMarche are on the Green Party ballots in
one-party states and Nader/Camejo are on the ballots in battleground
states.
Yoshie
greens have prez ballot line in florida
retry - first attempt seems to have been sent as attachment for some
reason, sorry... mh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/08/04 5:03 PM
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 03:04:28 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party
The nomination of David Cobb
request.
Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public
disclosure.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/08/04 5:03 PM
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 03:04:28 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party
The nomination of David Cobb as the Green Party
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 03:04:28 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party
Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party
2004.08.08 00:04:27
California, Take Back the Green Party!
There's a little rebellion starting, [Peter] Camejo said this week.
Camejo said in California, the bastion of Green registration, it's a
fact: The majority of the party wants to put Nader/Camejo on the
ballot. (Carla Marinucci, Nader's Ballot Hopes Hinge
Imam in Virgin Mary Drag in the Green Zone:
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/08/imam-in-virgin-mary-drag-in-green-zone.html.
In a message dated 7/28/2004 12:13:45 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am simply interested in the proponents of self
determination . . . Lou P . . . and Mr. Green and whether they have any
material on their support of Regional autonomy for the Southwest
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Give me a break. These so called national movement
. . . I also have
Yugoslavia in mind . . . are utterly reactionary
movements of and led by the
bourgeoisie and none of them even talk about
improving the life of the proletariat
as proletariat. Minister
The Future of the Green Party (it's the Greens for Nader and Green
leaders like Peter Miguel Camejo, Matt Gonzalez, Jason West, Ross
Mirkarimi, Donna Warren, and others who are the future of the Green
Party):
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/future-of-green-party.html
--
Yoshie
* Critical
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 2:02 PM
The Future of the Green Party (it's the Greens for Nader and Green
leaders like Peter Miguel Camejo, Matt Gonzalez, Jason West, Ross
Mirkarimi, Donna Warren, and others who are the future of the Green
Party):
-Yoshie
sex pistols ranted something about
Michael Hoover wrote:
By 1936, left congressional candidates were negligible factor in wake of
most left-leaning period of New Deal that secured FDR's re-election.
Well, this is not quite accurate. Those candidates tended to function as
the left wing of the New Deal. In other words, they had the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 3:02 PM
Michael Hoover wrote:
By 1936, left congressional candidates were negligible factor in wake
of
most left-leaning period of New Deal that secured FDR's re-election.
Well, this is not quite accurate. Those candidates tended to function as
the left wing of the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 3:56 PM
Michael Hoover wrote
36 'left' (note scare quotes, few people realized
that party was front for father coughlin)) prez alternative was populist
candidacy of union party's william lemke (farmer-labor member of
congress from north dakota)...
left out of above:
Michael Hoover wrote:
big difference between 36 and today re. above is that fdr did court
variety of progressive types, in fact, he ran 36 campaign as
'progressive coalition' rather than DP candidacy, number of 'soft' left
leaders did sign on to become 'junior' partners,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 4:02 PM
Michael Hoover wrote:
big difference between 36 and today re. above is that fdr did court
variety of progressive types, in fact, he ran 36 campaign as
'progressive coalition' rather than DP candidacy, number of 'soft'
left
leaders did sign on to become
Of Louis
Proyect
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The Future of the Green Party
Michael Hoover wrote:
By 1936, left congressional candidates were negligible
factor in wake of
most left-leaning period of New Deal that secured FDR's re
Devine, James wrote:
NKVD document reports...
do you trust Klehr?
On this, I do. It actually undermines Klehr's general point that the
CPUSA was subversive. They were as subversive as David Cobb.
--
Marxism list: www.marxmail.org
Michael Hoover wrote:
...[in 1936] fdr's biggest fear (not too realistic imo) apparently
was that lafollette might be able to bring together
progressive/'left' elements...
but until a year earlier, when the proverbial lone nut appeared, fdr's
biggest, and quite realistic, fear, was that Huey Long
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/02/04 7:44 PM
On Nader's
site, a major push is for impeachment of the current Resident. in
Chief. In my mind this is the only viable defensive action available
to the American people at the moment. When Bush gets his second term,
even that avenue will be gone -- in his mind
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/02/04 7:44 PM
On Nader's
site, a major push is for impeachment of the current Resident. in
Chief. In my mind this is the only viable defensive action available
to the American people at the moment. When Bush gets his second term,
even that avenue will be gone -- in his mind
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/30/04 10:44 PM
Dan Scanlan writes
As a longtime Green activist with both a long term view and a quick
knee I have got to disagree. Nader's campaigns for President have
been strategic for long term betterment.
Dan Scanlan
thanks for informative, well-reasoned comments
Title: Re: the Democratic Leadership Council wing
of the Gre
Michael Hoover writes...
however, color me a cynic as i've a
hunch that the sum of the parts that
you describe add up to less than
suggested...
green party will experience 'growing pains' if it is to have
substantive
longevity
Thursday, July 01, 2004
Green Strategy 2004-2008
How did the David Cobb/Pat LaMarche ticket receive the Green Party
nomination? And what does it mean for the Green Party in particular
and American politics in general? My conclusion is that the so-called
red states Greens, by rejecting Ralph Nader
American Prospect
No Tie -- Cobb!
The true story of how a man you've barely heard of beat Ralph Nader for
the Green Party nomination.
By Garance Franke-Ruta
Web Exclusive: 06.28.04
MILWAUKEE -- For Ralph Nader campaign spokesman Kevin Zeese, the map
explains it all. Hand drawn in black ballpoint
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/30/04 9:34 AM
American Prospect
No Tie -- Cobb!
The true story of how a man you've barely heard of beat Ralph Nader for
the Green Party nomination.
By Garance Franke-Ruta
Web Exclusive: 06.28.04
Make no mistake: Had Nader chosen to fight for it over the past year, he
could
In his ongoing capacity as chief ideologist of the Demogreen/Realo
faction of the US Green Party, Ted Glick has an article on the Zmag
website that talks about every aspect of the recently concluded Green
Party convention except the politics. I will try to draw this out with
bracketed comments
From David Cobb's website:
In the years since Holland, LaMarche has been employed at a radio
station in Maine's capital under the pseudonym Genny Judge, which she
borrowed from her late mother. Genny Judge is known throughout central
Maine as an altruist in the truest sense of the term. She has
The Green Party's Political Suicide (The Green Party vice
presidential candidate Pat LaMarche announced to the press that she
would not commit to voting for herself and her running mate, Texas
lawyer David Cobb!!!):
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/06/green-partys-political-suicide.html
Yoshie
Michael Hoover wrote..
i posted comments yesterday about why electoral campaigns are not good
vehicles for building mass movements, above article reflects those
remarks...
have never understood green party's desire for nader, he stiffed them in
96 by refusing to campaign, his 'party of person
Missing the 'Walter Cronkite Moment' (an eloquent indictment of the
Afghanistan and Iraq Wars in the May 3rd issue of Sports Illustrated
-- a Walter Cronkite moment that the Green Party missed):
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/06/missing-walter-cronkite-moment.html
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages
The Green Party National Convention, June 23-28,
2004:http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/06/green-party-national-convention-june.html
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http
was a surprise to the people who thought the mayor, who was
elected on the Green Party line, was a radical liberal activist about to
turn the town into a socialist enclave. In his reply to West, McLaughlin
noted that the law is unclear. ''That's because the laws were written
around the late 19th
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/17/04 1:43 AM
I did vote for him in 2000 (in Calif.); his silence since the last
election has been deafening. I will not vote for him again. If I'm going
to throw away a vote I'd rather give it to Camejo or a socialist
candidate.
Joanna
remember: electoral college,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/17/04 7:30 AM
At 10:20 PM -0500 3/16/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
geez, nader could draw 2 activists and he'd top what i'd draw
Well, you look adorable in a prequel to _The Blair Witch Project_. :-
At 10:20 PM -0500 3/16/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
but do activists really need
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/17/04 7:51 AM
Nader is now drawing 7 percent of the votes in a nationwide
telephone poll of 1,206 adults, including 984 registered voters . . .
taken from last Wednesday through Sunday (Adam Nagourney and Janet
Elder, Nation's Direction Prompts Voters' Concern, Poll Finds,
Although the latest Nader/Dem/Socialist Revolution posts are
unobjectionale, this thread ingnited so much nastiness, that maybe we
can drop it.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Among the liberal pundits who cry Anybody But Bush, it's open
season on Ralph Nader and the Green Party. Some wonder why the
Democratic leaders and intellectuals attack Nader and the Greens,
especially given that more Democrats voted for Bush than Nader in
2000: Bush received the votes of 12
to run as a
Green candidate in the general election. Howard Dean spent over $40
million, did not win a single primary, and got forced out on February
18, 2004 -- five months before the Democratic Party National
Convention on July 26-29 and more than ten months before the election
day in November
(Cf. In 1996, Nader opted to cap his campaign expenditures at
$5,000 and ended up with 581,000 votes. Nader's DPV: $0.01, says
Norman Solomon in News That Still Goes Unreported: 'Dollars Per
Vote' at http://www.fair.org/media-beat/980604.html -- our
Consumer Advocate sure knows how to get his
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
It costs a left-wing candidate more to run in the Democratic presidential
caucuses and primaries than to run as a Green candidate in the general
election. Howard Dean spent over $40 million, did not win a single
primary, and got forced out on February 18, 2004 [etc.]
I
decides to run at all, will run as a VP candidate on a
Nader/Camejo ticket. (As I said, Camejo has been running in
primaries not to promote himself, but to push for the Green Party
nomination of Nader.) Running in presidential elections costs
enormous amounts of money, time, energy, etc., which only
At 10:20 PM -0500 3/16/04, Michael Hoover wrote:
my mother is my political barometer and she and her husband are in
anybody but bush camp, she's worried (incorrectly imo) that nader
will help put bush back in white house, folks like her who think
that are much more important than all nation
Good news for the Green Party -- Camejo taking the lead in the Green
Party primaries, and the Green Party is likely to nominate the
Nader/Camejo combo:
* March 14, 2004
Camejo takes the lead
Peter Camejo won 99 of 132 state delegates in the California
primaries, garnering 75.4 percent
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 06:48AM
Over the last eight years, Nader has done more for the Green
Party than anybody else, said Howard Hawkins, a Green Party
organizer from Syracuse, N.Y. We should draft him and have a
candidate who can be in the national debates with Bush and the
expected
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 06:48AM
Over the last eight years, Nader has done more for the Green Party
than anybody else, said Howard Hawkins, a Green Party organizer
from Syracuse, N.Y. We should draft him and have a candidate who
can be in the national debates with Bush and the expected
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 2:02 PM
Even aside from the media question, it's no use denying that name
recognition matters in national politics, even to activists on the
left. For instance, this is what Doug had to say about Jonathan
Farley, a Green Party leader in Texas: I've come across very
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 10:20 PM
geez, nader could draw 2 activists and he'd top what i'd draw, but do
activists
really need to hear him, seems to me that non-activists need to hear him
(i'd rather they heard folks mentioned above, and you as well)...
above should have read: i'd rather they
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geez, nader could draw 2 activists and he'd top what i'd draw
?
inquiring minds want to know.
Jim D.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Hoover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 3/16/2004 7:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Camejo Takes the Lead/Green Party Likes Nader
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Published on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 by Knight-Ridder
Green, Reform Parties May Both Tap Nader
by Maria Recio
WASHINGTON - Q: Ralph Nader, who is running for president as an
independent, will be listed on the ballot in November as:
a) the Reform Party candidate
b) the Green Party candidate
c
Miller, a well-known health care expert and Green Party leader, to
serve on the state Commission on Higher Education.
³Carol Miller brings unique strengths as a grass-roots advocate and a
champion for public health and health education that will benefit the
Commission on Higher Education,² Governor
(their perception, not mine).
Doug
The 2000 Nader/Green Party presidential campaign was, financially, a
minus for Ralph Nader as an individual political entrepreneur but, in
terms of gains in votes, offices, etc., a plus for the Green Party as
a mass political party in the making.
The impact
list on behalf of Yoshie Furuhashi
Sent: Sun 2/22/2004 1:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEN-L] Nader the Green Party (Maybe they should start calling him angry)
Michael Hoover wrote:
'best' reason why nader shouldn't run is that he is stone cold bore...
But at least he has the nerve
I think the problem with Nader's stance is that he's against the
corporations but that conceptualisation or theme is unlikely to be
successful, it's essentially no different than being against the public
service.
J.
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Should Greens:
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into
trouble with protests planned at a talk being given by BP boss Lord Browne
tonight.
Rising Tide - a loose-knit group of green activists - is organising a
rowdy reception for the oil executive when he arrives to give a speech on
sustainable development at the Royal Institute of British Architects
The Fight Is For Democracy, which contains writings by
what Dionne calls a gathering of tough-minded liberals. What makes
these liberals so tough-minded? In Dionne's mind, a tough-minded liberal
(TML) is someone who's not afraid to give the U.S. military a green
light to wage war under certain
In any case, the Green Party needs to prioritize where its activists
should spend their time and energy, mapping the political geography
of race and class, and to set numerical targets (how many campaign
workers, how many votes, etc. in each precinct), in order to garner
more than 2-5
Arnold Schwarzenegger received 3,850,982 votes (at
http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov/Returns/gov/00.htm). Let's say that each
Green campaign worker in California should be responsible for
securing 100 votes for the Green Party gubernatorial candidate, by
getting registered Greens to vote, getting angry
- Original Message -
From: Eubulides [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One aspect of that nervousness can be seen in the attempts by the US
Justice Dept. to stop any and all lawsuits using the Alien Tort Claims
Act. They're terrified of the future of global environmental law and, as
any social
Ian,
What do you consider the most compelling argument for Green-style politics,
or do you have a ref for me ?
Thanks
J.
- Original Message -
From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ian,
What do you consider the most compelling argument for Green-style
politics,
or do you have a ref for me ?
Thanks
J.
=
In terms of a sophomoric sound bite:
Finance capitalism is a pathological
Well, it may have been a naive question, but you are really knowledgeable
about this, and I thank you very much for your reply. Yes, if you have some
refs, by all means post them.
Jurriaan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Green
Thanks for the kind response, Jim.
I'd like to see common ownership of the means of
production/consumption under the democratic
control of
the producers. Also on my agenda is production
for
use and need, the abolition of the wages-system
they say.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
-Original Message-
From: Mike Ballard
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Green
--- Devine, James
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Green
Thanks for the kind response, Jim.
I'd like to see common ownership of the means of
production/consumption under the democratic control of
the producers. Also on my agenda is production for
use and need, the abolition of the wages-system
this is the basic principle of the socialism from below tendency on the
left. It goes against the Marxist-Leninist tendency and the
social-democratic tendency, in which condescending saviors are relied
upon.
In explaining simply about the meaning of a so-called vanguard party,
Ernest Mandel once
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Sent: Fri 8/15/2003 1:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Green
Devine, James wrote:
you write: I don't think that this can be accomplished by having others act
for the proles
Jim writes:
is there a color which represents democracy? I'd prefer
democracy to anarchism (which precludes democracy).
Democracy would be the color of the ruling cohort. Everyone is a democrat, even Hitler.
Anarchism is okay... if you have the other two sides of the flag supporting it.
Ken.
from BusinessWeek, Au. 18-25, 2003:
The Greening of Pension Plans
Cash-strapped U.S. steel (X ) may have hit on a solution for companies
scrounging for the dough to pump up pension funds that were recently
flattened by the stock market's slide. Just sign over some forests -- or
other valuable
At 9:11 AM -0400 8/12/03, Kenneth Campbell wrote:
the next unifying revolutionary force will be green, not red.
I'd prefer Red, Black, and Green together (the colors of
revolutionary socialism, anarchism, and environmentalism), also the
colors of the pan-African Black Liberation Flag.
At 9:11 AM
I wrote:
But in this particular battle of definitions, I agree with
all the Yoshies out there. They call anarchism what Mr.
Marx would call democracy.
I think it's useful to avoid mushing concepts together that way.
I don't see that as mushing. I see it as evolving language.
But we can call
:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Green
is there a color which represents democracy? I'd
prefer democracy to
anarchism (which precludes democracy).
Jim
Anarchy, to me, means democracy, i.e., collective
self-government
is there a color which represents democracy? I'd prefer democracy to
anarchism (which precludes democracy).
Jim
Anarchy, to me, means democracy, i.e., collective self-government,
the very ideal to which Lenin spoke in _The State and Revolution.
Not all those who call themselves anarchists agree
Jim writes about the classic Marx v Bakunin battle of anarchism and intelligent
socialism.
I can never disagree with Karl, because he was just too damn smart. Never took a
position based on his own interests and fudged the rest.
But in this particular battle of definitions, I agree with all
Ken writes: Democracy would be the color of the ruling cohort. Everyone is a
democrat, even Hitler.
everyone is a democrat _in theory_ or _in rhetoric_. The point is to be a democrat _in
practice_, _in reality_.
Jim
from BusinessWeek, Au. 18-25, 2003:
The Greening of Pension Plans
Cash-strapped U.S. steel (X ) may have hit on a solution for companies
scrounging for the dough to pump up pension funds that were recently
flattened by the stock market's slide. Just sign over some forests -- or
other valuable
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Green
--- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the one thing that all anarchists seem to agree with
is that centralized government (the state) should be
abolished -- as soon as possible.
The State is the governmental expression of class
rule
Is this necessary?
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 06:05:38PM -0400, Kenneth Campbell wrote:
If you can't
sell it... well... languish in the warehouse with Lou's crew.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is this necessary?
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 06:05:38PM -0400, Kenneth Campbell wrote:
If you can't
sell it... well... languish in the warehouse with Lou's crew.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
I was referring to Lou Rukyser.
God I hate
Mike wrote:
The State is the governmental expression of class
rule.
Fair enough. I've heard many descriptions of what the state is. That's a
workable one.
I've never met anyone--anarchists included--who argued
that that State could be abolished by decree.
I agree with that. (In terms of
Jim writes about the classic Marx v Bakunin battle of
anarchism and intelligent socialism.
right. Though I prefer to use my own words rather than quoting any Master.
I can never disagree with Karl, because he was just too damn
smart. Never took a position based on his own interests and
]
Sent: Tue 8/12/2003 7:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Green
is there a color which represents democracy? I'd prefer democracy to
anarchism (which precludes democracy).
Jim
Anarchy, to me
some effect.
Maybe Ian is right in his prognostication... the next unifying
revolutionary force will be green, not red. Everyone is immediately
interested.
After all... Everyone talks about the weather... Even the 90+% of the
North American populace that is already proletarian.
Ken.
--
Education
Yoshie wrote:
I'd prefer Red, Black, and Green together (the colors of
revolutionary socialism, anarchism, and environmentalism),
also the colors of the pan-African Black Liberation Flag.
Sounds good to me. I adopt that as my flag.
But don't tell anyone I agree with you. I would hate
- Original Message -
From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:00 PM
Subject: [PEN-L] green pensions?
from BusinessWeek, Au. 18-25, 2003:
The Greening of Pension Plans
Cash-strapped U.S. steel (X ) may have hit on a solution
I wrote: I think it's useful to avoid mushing concepts together that way.
Ken: I don't see that as mushing. I see it as evolving language.
I don't think we should go with the linguistic flow. Instead, we should try to use
language as clearly as possible (by being clear about our own
At 2003-06-22 08:02 -0700, you wrote:
From: Jurriaan Bendien
In reply to Joseph Green, whose comments you send me: I think he should
try learning to read a book, and not judge it by its cover.
My basic point is that when Engels wrote the text of anti-Duhring, he
was doing so
- Original Message -
From: Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I suspect the really difficult debate is about whether there is a single
scientific socialism now, and what it is in today's context. Or whether
marxism is a method of science, rather than a definitive body of
science.
Chris
Title: FW: Scientific socialism: A reply to Joseph Green
From: Jurriaan Bendien
In reply to Joseph Green, whose comments you send me: I think he should
try learning to read a book, and not judge it by its cover.
My basic point is that when Engels wrote the text of anti-Duhring, he
of
it. :)
As to Mr. Mayall's protege, Peter Green, he was a fine contributor to
another tradition -- England-style blues, et al. -- that was equally
re-translated (and retranslating in the process) each generation. With
great success...
Ken.
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All politeness is owing to Liberty. We polish one
On January 28th, Natalie Johnson Lee, Minneapolis City Councilwoman
gave the Green Party response to President Bush's State of the Union
Address. Ms. Lee's speech was broadcasted over the Pacifica Radio
Network, as well as was heard by a large crowd in Washington DC who
had gathered to hear
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