India turned Kashmir into the bitter place it is now
BJP Hindu nationalism has made the conflict more dangerous
Martin Woollacott
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,630975,00.html
Friday January 11, 2002
The Guardian
When sections of the Kashmiri crowd booed the Indian side and waved
--- Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
India turned Kashmir into the bitter place it is now
Typical Guardian headline:
Big country (fill in name of big country here) turned
small country (fill in name of small country here)
into the bitter place it is now. Small countries
for the situation.
Good point. Kashmir should have granted India its independence in 1953
rather than sending in 500,000 troops to enforce its rule and arresting
Nehru.
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Chris wrote:
--- Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
India turned Kashmir into the bitter place it is now
Typical Guardian headline:
Big country (fill in name of big country here) turned small country
(fill in name of small country here) into the bitter place it is
now. Small countries
It doesn't matter if it is typical. It matters if it
is true.
--
Yoshie
---
It will always be a priori true for the Guardian.
I'm outta here, it's late. Bye!
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the successful rise of the BJP, the user-friendly front of hindu
extremism). purely based on anecdotal data, i would also add that it
would be difficult to ascertain the true views of muslims in india, who
are cowed into a pro-india position through false logic (such as
comparisons between india and pakistan
AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] India Turned Kashmir into the Bitter Place It Is Now
--- Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
India turned Kashmir into the bitter place it is now
Typical Guardian headline:
Big country (fill in name of big country here) turned
small country (fill in name
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Subject: Re: [PEN-L] India Turned Kashmir into the Bitter Place It Is
Now
You were much further ahead when you said you didn't know. Since then
you've deployed the outside agitator explanation, and then this,
neither
of which address the real issues.
- Original Message -
From: Chris Doss [EMAIL
The Planning Commission
Government of India
National Human Development Report 2001
http://planningcommission.nic.in/reports/genrep/reportsf.htm
Yahoo! India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online
Go to: http://yahoo.naukri.com/
consultant and journalist, exudes an evangelical zeal for
India's entry into the world economy. Arguing that India never
experienced an industrial revolution, he asserts that because of its
conceptual nature, the information age his country is now embracing
is a superior fit with its caste system
I have not read the book. I have read many reviews of the book. It
appears to be a view of India that is only part correct, leaving out many
other important things. I heard him speak in March in Baltimore, I walked
out along with a colleague to the bar! He is far too bullish and uses
statistics
Anthony D'Costa wrote:
I have not read the book. I have read many reviews of the book. It
appears to be a view of India that is only part correct, leaving out many
other important things. I heard him speak in March in Baltimore, I walked
out along with a colleague to the bar! He is far too
Investors are spooked but foreign manufacturers are largely unfazed by the
Congress Partys election win in India, according to reports in todays Wall
Street Journal and Financial Times.
The Indian stock market plunged by a record 16% since the defeat of the
right-wing BJP government
NY Times, May 15, 2004
What India's Upset Vote Reveals: The High Tech Is Skin Deep
by AMY WALDMAN
NEW DELHI, May 14 - As India prepared to vote this spring, strategists
from its ruling party mapped the country's first modern electoral campaign.
They boasted of sending four million e-mail
Michael Perelman wrote:
Sometime ago, I believe on pen-l, I questioned Brad DeLong's insistence
that increasing aggregate income meant that the people were doing better,
whether in India or China. I had not seen an indication that the BJP was
in trouble before the election. India was, by all
At this point in our history, we should savor any victory, however hollow. Maybe the
Right has finally
overreached.
Is Congress still as neo-liberal as it was under the last Gandhi?
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA
Isn't there someone here who can tell us how the BJP is really the
lesser of two evils?
Doug
from the anyone but bush again dept, a victory of sorts: the
right-wing fundamentalist (and dare i say, murderous) BJP suffers an
election defeat:
India's ruling party concedes defeat
http://www.guardian.co.uk/india/story/0,12559,1215700,00.html
India's ruling Bharatiya Janata party (BJP) today
(The defeat of the incumbent party might have been predicted based on
this NY Times article from yesterday.)
Indian Voters Turn a Cold Shoulder to High Technology
By SARITHA RAI
BANGALORE, India, May 11 - As India's stock markets slumped further on
electoral uncertainty Tuesday, the resounding
explaining why the BJP is the worst
alternative in india, without transporting you in both time (to a day
when india's secular pretensions were less distant from reality) and
space: a visit to india will illustrate how the hindu fundamentalists
energize the committed bigots and win over the neutral
I could but I just finished teaching my India class and now heading into
my development class. I'll try. cheers, anthony
xxx
Anthony P. D'Costa, Associate Professor
Comparative International Development
University
I could but I just finished teaching my India class and now heading into
my development class. I'll try. cheers, anthony
xxx
Anthony P. D'Costa, Associate Professor
Comparative International Development
University
Q: YOU MENTIONED the Congress Party and its decline as one of the
factors that led to the rise of the BJP. The Congress had historically
been identified with what is known as the Nehruvian legacy of centrist
and social-democratic policies. Why did it begin to bury that legacy?
A: THE CONGRESS
Isn't there someone here who can tell us how the BJP is really the
lesser of two evils?
Doug
No, but yesterday there would have been plenty around
to tell us how voting Communist Party (of your choice)
would throw the election to the BJP.
Shane
No, but yesterday there would have been plenty around
to tell us how voting Communist Party (of your choice)
would throw the election to the BJP.
Shane
Not really. India, like most civilized countries, has a parliamentary
system. This means that all parties can get some representation no
matter
ravi wrote:
Doug Henwood wrote:
Isn't there someone here who can tell us how the BJP is really the
lesser of two evils?
i am a bit confused by the above. i think the BJP is the worse of the
many evils. are you asking for a contrary opinion to mine? or did you
misunderstand mine?
That was a
regained power in the 80s. there was a techno bent to the reform even
in those days: eg: star indian technologist sam pitroda was lured back
from the USA to india with promises of large funding and unlimited freedom.
--ravi
Louis Proyect wrote:
Not really. India, like most civilized countries, has a parliamentary
system. This means that all parties can get some representation no
matter how small. The USA has a winner take all system that was if not
designed to marginalize smaller parties certainly has
: Thursday, May 13, 2004 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: a victory of sorts in india...
No, but yesterday there would have been plenty around
to tell us how voting Communist Party (of your choice)
would throw the election to the BJP.
Shane
Not really. India, like most civilized countries, has
finished teaching my India class and now heading into
my development class. I'll try. cheers, anthony
xxx
Anthony P. D'Costa, Associate Professor
Comparative International Development
University of Washington
On Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 14:41:13 (-0400) Doug Henwood writes:
... the argument you
sometimes see that Bush is actually a lesser evil than Kerry. (See,
for example, Gabriel Kolko's piece in Counterpunch.) ...
Actually, his argument was a bit
(In India, in the late 70s, there was a slogan Indira hatao, Indiri
bachao or abolish Indira and save your genitals that sort of summed
it up) and inspired by fascist and caste-biased eugenics.
On the BJP side, you have the core and rather covert elements of Shiv
Sena, RSS and Arya Sammajayam that are out
I just received an article by Marxmail subscriber A. Mani that is a bit
too long to post to the list but it can be read in its entirety at:
http://www.marxmail.org/stat6.htm
Here is the opening paragraph:
On Some Recent Misuse of Statistical Data.
No, but yesterday there would have been plenty around
to tell us how voting Communist Party (of your choice)
would throw the election to the BJP.
Shane
Actually, the Communist Party (M) formed electoral alliances with Congress,
because, as it stated in its press, it understood correctly that the
Agreed. It was quite good.
On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 07:34:37PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
Anthony D'Costa wondered if my interview with him was in my radio
archive. It is, though it's dropped off the recent shows list. But it
was a good one, and PEN-Lers who haven't listened yet might want
Anthony D'Costa wondered if my interview with him was in my radio
archive. It is, though it's dropped off the recent shows list. But it
was a good one, and PEN-Lers who haven't listened yet might want to.
It's at http://www.leftbusinesobserver.com/Radio.html, and scroll
down a bit. The Anatol
http://www.flonnet.com/fl2105/stories/20040312001805000.htm
WTO
Frictions to the fore
SUKUMAR MURALIDHARAN
The recent visit of U.S. Trade Representative Robert Zoellick to India
with the stated aim of resuming global trade negotiations only serves to
highlight the continuing discord between
India, Pakistan sobered by N-war threat: Powell
Saturday, 21 February , 2004, 08:58
Washington: India and Pakistan are now moving towards peace after all sides
were sobered by the prospect of nuclear war, US Secretary of State Colin
Powell has said. Speaking at Princeton, New Jersey
[The BBC]
Last Updated: Sunday, 25 January, 2004, 17:16 GMT
Lula calls for trade revolution
Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva has called on India to join
forces with his country to challenge the current geography of world trade.
Speaking on an official visit to Delhi, President Lula
http://www.flonnet.com
NAFTA ten years on
JAYATI GHOSH
Volume 21 - Issue 02, January 17 - 30, 2004
India's National Magazine
from the publishers of THE HINDU
The promise of better jobs and higher living standards for workers, held
out by supporters of NAFTA a decade ago, remains unrealised even
started their own ventures and became successful leaders in their
respective fields. Silicon Valley in the U.S. provides many examples of
such spin-offs. Intel is a spin-off of Fairchild and AMD, a competitor to
Intel, is its spin-off. Even in India, the machine tool industry of
Ludhiana and Bangalore
http://www.flonnet.com/fl2022/stories/20031107005912500.htm
The stock market as casino
C.P. CHANDRASEKHAR
The `comfortable' level foreign currency reserves, the strength of the
rupee and the buoyancy of the stock market indicate a speculative wave
that increases the Indian economy's
The flight to India
The jobs Britain stole from the Asian subcontinent 200 years ago are now
being returned
George Monbiot
Tuesday October 21, 2003
The Guardian
If you live in a rich nation in the English-speaking world, and most of
your work involves a computer or a telephone, don't expect
I thought that the WalMart connection to job loss that I posted yesterday
would have caught some interest.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I thought that the WalMart connection to job loss that I posted
yesterday
would have caught some interest.
--
==
One of the letters to the editor in this week's BW said it all as far as
many US citizens are
[Far Eastern Economic Review]
India Catches Up With East Asia
With its huge pool of skilled engineers and product designers capable of
creating low-cost, high-end products, India is fast emerging as an
outsourcing centre for everything from cars and vehicle components to steel,
pharmaceuticals
http://www.flonnet.com/fl2020/fl202000.htm
To this day, no one has come up with a set of rules for
originality. There aren't any. [Les Paul]
meanwhile, back in the third world:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3113874.stm
India faces key marriage ruling
An Indian man is planning to appeal after a landmark ruling in the
Calcutta High Court that he has no right to force his wife to live with
his family.
Ashis Ghose says he
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11219
US Republican Party outsources fund raising to India
Whole world's gone batty - official
By Adamson Rust: Wednesday 27 August 2003, 08:49
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY is using call centres in Gurgaon and Noida in India
to raise funds for itself and for its
Priceless. Thanks ravi.
Joanna
ravi wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11219
US Republican Party outsources fund raising to India
Whole world's gone batty - official
By Adamson Rust: Wednesday 27 August 2003, 08:49
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY is using call centres in Gurgaon and Noida
at a moment's notice upon any
point. These words are not those of an American neo-conservative in 2003,
but were articulated by the British viceroy of India, Lord Curzon, in
1909. A century later, the subcontinent's role as a source of auxiliary
cohorts for the expansion of empire is being reprised
WTO challenge India and China team up
Charlotte Denny
Tuesday July 1, 2003
The Guardian
India and China will challenge the west's control over global trade rules
with a united front at the World Trade Organisation.
The alliance was struck last week during their first summit meeting for a
decade
(LP: I will respond to this in a separate post.)
Hallo Louis,
we just recently came across your mail on Marxs writing on the British
rule in India. On the background of ongoing discussions about a
progressive imperialism we realized that quite a few former leftist
scientists seemed to support
Thomas Rathgeber wrote:
In contrary to the statement, that Marx had only limited and outdated
information on Indian society, a position you obviously agree with, we
determined, that Marx had read most of the recently published books on
India. His excerpts and some quotes in the articles show
I have mentioned several times that I have written about Marx and India.
My research led me to believe that Marx was more concerned about refuting
Henry Carey than about India. Carey was trying to sabotage Marx's
relationship with the New York Tribune. He believed that England was
responsible
plenty of great stuff, as usual, from Frontline magazine; including the
following from Jayati Ghosh:
Never before have the people of the world been so united in their
opposition to this blatant and aggressive display of force against a
people helpless to protect themselves against the onslaught.
Dear Dubya-Dubya III Duce bin Ledeen,
Unlike your designated demon, Saddam Hussein, India and Pakistan have nukular
weapons of mass destruction. Maybe after taking
out Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia, you'll have enough cruise tomahawks and humvees
left for a quick sweep across the sub-continent
More on Ledeen, poster child for U.S. imperialism,
as recounted by Josh Marshall:
This is the quote from Michael Ledeen, from this morning's event at AEI,
which I noted in the previous post.
The quote came in response to a question from the floor, asking how many
casualties the American public
BUDGET 2003
A deflationary Budget
PRABHAT PATNAIK
[snip]
The claim that the Budget is growth-oriented' is based, however, on
invoking a myth, namely that doling out concessions to the capitalists
(including foreign ones) ipso facto promotes growth. This self-serving
proposition, which
i guess i am going to miss the march 22 anti-war march in nyc,
but perhaps i can find something equivalent in bangalore. in
the five years since i was here last, globalisation seems to
have sped up. the class divisions in india are so stark and
cruel, which should not surprise me
The economies of South Asia and especially India are often portrayed
in comparative discussion as among the success stories of the
developing world in the period since the early 1990s. The sense that the
Indian economy performed relatively well during this period may simply
reflect
Michael Perelman wrote:
Some of the anger against the H1-b comes from the practice of laying off
older programmers, who become unemployable.
i can understand a conservative making this incorrect leap of logic
(i.e., the blame rests not on the h-1b workers but on the corporations),
but a
perhaps anthony d'costa might know the answer to these questions of
mine: the primary new means of migration from india to the US is H-1b
work based. i use the potentially inappropriate term migration, rather
than immigration, since H-1b is a temporary work authorization, and is
not an immigrant
of migration from india to the US is H-1b
work based. i use the potentially inappropriate term migration, rather
than immigration, since H-1b is a temporary work authorization, and is
not an immigrant visa. however many H-1b workers do manage to obtain a
green card and settled down in the US. also, i say
Some of the anger against the H1-b comes from the practice of laying off
older programmers, who become unemployable.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Title: hunger amid plenty -- in India
New York TIMES/December 2, 2002
Poor in India Starve as Surplus Wheat Rots
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/02/international/asia/02FARM.html?tntemail0
By AMY WALDMAN
KHANNA, India - Surplus from this year's wheat harvest, bought by the government from
Devine, James wrote:
More than two decades after a green revolution made India, the world's
second-most-populous country, self-sufficient in grain production, half
of India's children are malnourished. About 350 million Indians go to
bed hungry every night. Pockets of starvation deaths, like
Title: RE: [PEN-L:32672] Re: hunger amid plenty -- in India
I quoted:
More than two decades after a green revolution made India, the world's
second-most-populous country, self-sufficient in grain production, half
of India's children are malnourished. About 350 million Indians go
It's ironic that capitalism's last hope may be China under the
Communist Party
* NYT November 29, 2002
Once a Close Economic Rival of China, India Falls Behind
By KEITH BRADSHER
SONEPAT, India - Raj K. Gupta, a partner in one of India's largest
shoe manufacturers, makes a dreaded
At 29/11/02 12:46 -0500, you wrote:
The average Chinese citizen now earns $890 a year, compared with $460
for the typical Indian, according to the World Bank.
I wonder if median figures would be more informative, and whether they
would be possible. Would the World Bank be ideologically
[New York Times]
November 29, 2002
Once a Close Economic Rival of China, India Falls Behind
By KEITH BRADSHER
SONEPAT, India - Raj K. Gupta, a partner in one of India's largest shoe
manufacturers, makes a dreaded but necessary trip every two months to Hong
Kong and then into Guangdong Province
to the early and mid-1990s are proving inadequate to
reverse the slow rate of non-agricultural growth in the system. In the RBI's
own words: During 2002-03 so far, financial markets in India have been
generally stable, liquidity has been adequate, and the interest rate
environment has also been favourable
[Are these figures correct? My impression from other sources was that the
poverty situation in India had improved during the period 1990-2000.
Also that agricultural production had improved, and that government
distribution of the surplus rice mountain as internal aid had gotten
better
http://www.outlookindia.com
The Silent Debt Wish
As the reforms rabbit turns turtle, a severe internal debt trap is bogging
India down
Paromita Shastri
Playing ostrich comes as easily to the Indian government as gradualism in
reforms. So, on September 20, when rating agency Standard Poor's
Maybe Marcella Perelman will give her report from Argentina now.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Who is Marcella Perelman (or Doug Fernwood for that matter)??
She recently contacted me from Argentina and is now on pen-l. I am hoping
to have her report on conditions there. Doug Fernwood is a fiction.
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 10:36:12PM -0500, Forstater, Mathew wrote:
Who is Marcella Perelman (or Doug Fernwood for that matter)??
--
Michael
. And,
for domestic as well as regional considerations, India intends to continue
consolidating its political and economic cooperation with Iran. In recent
years, New Delhi embraced Iran as a principal ally in countering the
anti-India campaign by Pakistan in the Islamic world, and India looks to
Iran as a major
, be it at the village, local
community, or state levels. As for abolishing the capitalist system I am
not sure who, when, how, and where that will take place. India has its share
of insurrectionary movements of all stripes, none of them have come close
to any meaningful resolution except co-optation, let
Here are some Indian corporate admissions:
CII NEWS
Press Releases : 2002 : September
ATTACK POVERTY TO DEFEND PROSPERITY: BANGA
Poverty is the biggest enemy of peace and democracy and the only way to
defend prosperity is to find ways to attack it. This was stated by Mr M S
Banga, Chairman,
Le Monde diplomatique, September 2002
THE DELIBERATE DESTRUCTION OF AGRICULTURE
India: free markets, empty bellies
The outgoing World Trade Organisation director-general, Mike Moore, said
the WTO's greatest
Economic and Political Weekly
Well-Being in the 1990s
Towards a Balance Sheet
EPW Special Article July 06, 2002
The debate about poverty trends in India in the 1990s can be widened to look
at a broad range of indicators. The data do not really permit resolution of
a key issue, whether poverty
http://www.flonnet.com/fl1914/19140730.htm
Market failure: A convincing case
VENKATESH ATHREYA
The Market that Failed: A Decade of Neoliberal Economic Reforms in
India by C.P. Chandrasekhar and Jayati Ghosh; Leftword Books, New
Delhi, 2002; pages 192, Rs. 275.
THE period of nearly 11 years
The Economic Times
Thursday, July 04, 2002
Kazakhstan targets China, India oil export
REUTERS
OVERLAND PARK: Fresh from confirmation last week that Kazakhstan's Caspian
Sea shelf holds the largest oil find in 30 years, Kazakh officials said on
Monday they were exploring new pipeline routes
The Times of India
WEDNESDAY, JULY 03, 2002
ISRO to launch 2 more satellites
TIMES NEWS NETWORK
NEW DELHI: India will launch two more multi-purpose satellites, INSAT-3A and
INSAT-3E, in the near future to make the country self-sufficient in the area
of communication through satellites, said
The Hindu
Monday, Jun 24, 2002
India joins Sudan's war
By Ninan Koshy
Oil has fuelled Sudan's civil war... The ONGC is stepping into
ethnically-cleansed areas.
IN APPROVING the Oil and Natural Gas Corporation's proposal to buy Canadian
Talisman Energy Inc.'s 25 per cent stake in the Greater
The Times of India
MONDAY, JUNE 03, 2002
Rediscovery of India
TIMES NEWS NETWORK
When Stalin fell ill, the Communist Party's politburo asked the Russian
church to pray for him. Mao Zedong presided over the celebrations of 2,500
years of Buddhism in the midst of the cultural revolution. Noted
Business Standard
Monday, June 3, 2002
FOCUS
Why India needs transgenic crops
A letter from Norman Borlaug explains why
International Maize
and Wheat Improvement Center
Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maíz y Trigo NEB-60
April 12, 2002
To: Drs. M S Swaminathan, George Varughese, M V
and 1993-94 made on this basis were released
by the Government of India, Press Information Bureau on 11th March, 1997.
The NSSO has now released the key results of the latest large sample survey
data on consumer expenditure (55th Round), covering the period July, 1999 to
June, 2000 (see Report
Official Website of Planning Commission, Government of India
http://planningcommission.nic.in/
The Times of India
MONDAY, JUNE 03, 2002
Lanka to renegotiate trade pact with India
FARAH MIHLAR AHAMED
TIMES NEWS NETWORK
COLOMBO: Sri Lanka wants to renegotiate the Indo-Lanka Free Trade Agreement
to make it more beneficial to the Island nation and Colombo will send a
delegation headed
Amendment Act, 2000, which was brought in
to grant exclusive marketing rights (EMR) to drugs that had received a
patent in any WTO member-country. India has committed itself to
introducing product patents in the drug and agro-chemical sector, but
only by 2005. The latest Patent Bill does not grant
The Economic Times
Sunday, April 21, 2002
India retains position as world's fourth largest economy
PTI
WASHINGTON: India has retained its position as the world's fourth largest
economy after US, China and Japan, according to a World Bank report.
India's Gross National Income in Purchasing
India Talks of War, World Watches Warily
Thu May 23,12:52 AM ET
By Y.P. Rajesh and Raja Asghar
NEW DELHI/ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - India's prime minister meets his
security advisers in disputed Kashmir (news - web sites) on
Thursday after telling troops confronting Pakistani forces to
prepare
enough to rally his troops, threaten Pakistan and scare much of
the world.
India has a grim choice at hand: make good on its pledge to
retaliate forcefully against militant groups based in Pakistani
territory, or appear at home and abroad as a nation that draws a
line in the sand only to keep moving
The Financial Express
Wednesday, May 08, 2002
USTR Warns India On Trips Compliance Issues
Sanjay Sardana
New Delhi, May 7: The US Trade Representative (USTR) has flayed India for
being less protective on intellectual property rights (IPR) and for having
overly broad compulsory license
Hindustantimes.com
April 20, 2002
India, China to work closely at WTO on common interests
PTI
Kolkata , 19-04-2002
India and China would work closely on areas of common interests at the WTO
including agriculture and environment, a senior government official said on
Friday.
Union Ministry
The Times of India
TUESDAY, APRIL 23, 2002
India top anti-dumping activist
REUTERS
GENEVA: India has taken over from the United States as the most active user
in the World Trade Organisation of anti-dumping actions against foreign
imports, according to figures released on Monday.
The figures
India's unions have warned they will step up their protests against
plans to make it easier to lay off workers, one day after as many as ten
million employees went on a strike that brought much of the urban part of
the country to a standstill.
Bank workers and employees from more than 220
class. Now that we
have even less to spend or save or hope for, will that give
growth?
A question that the government needs to seriously grapple with.
Because the Guptas in India are growing in strength. The ruling
party may have been shell-shocked into soul-searching and hasty
rollbacks with the Delhi
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