Re: Turkey: 10,000 soldiers to Iraq

2003-08-21 Thread Devine, James
? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -Original Message- From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Turkey: 10,000 soldiers to Iraq I can see why Pakistan would

Re: Turkey: 10,000 soldiers to Iraq

2003-08-21 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael: I can see why Pakistan would do it. That nation is a virtual hostage. What does Turkey get? I think a better question is what sections of Turkey would get something from it. At least two groups would gain some, at least, in the short run: 1) AKP, the governing Islamic Christian

Re: Critical Speech: Iraq easy?

2003-08-19 Thread Devine, James
at the time of the war that said that at the Iraq/Jordan border there were many fewer refugees leaving Iraq than there were people coming in from Jordan to fight for Saddam (from all over the Middle East). Jim

Re: Critical Speech: Iraq easy?

2003-08-19 Thread Paul
as guerrillas in the Sunni areas (at this stage and on a serious scale). You know how these stories go. while I wouldn't put too much emphasis on what Wolfowitz calls foreign elements, there were stories at the time of the war that said that at the Iraq/Jordan border there were many fewer refugees

Crony capitalism and Iraq Reconstruction

2003-08-19 Thread k hanly
Bush - are making a lot of money in the post-war rush for contracts in Iraq. Firms whose directors held membership in Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's Defense Policy Board (DPB) or in the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI) did not appear to suffer any handicap, either. Two big winners

Critical Speech: Iraq easy?

2003-08-18 Thread Paul
Jim writes: [*] It's possible that the neo-cons assumed that it would be easy to run Iraq after the conquest -- oops, I mean liberation -- because the countries of Eastern Europe were relatively easy to run after the fall of the USSR. I have a different take on this. Occupying Iraq really should

Re: Critical Speech: Iraq easy?

2003-08-18 Thread Louis Proyect
Paul: The U.S. needed to make compromises - BUT with groups that were ready to do it. International elites required some slice of the pie and minor seats at the table. Many, Iraqi Sunni Bathists and many of their guerilla supporters in the small units now active) could likewise be accommodated

Re: Critical Speech: Iraq easy?

2003-08-18 Thread Paul
I THINK I see your point (hard to tell with internet communication) and it is helpful. Let me be clear(er): 1) Occupying Iraq should have been easy IF the goals are conventional Bush I/Clinton type goals (get rid of Saddam and replace him with a government more typical of friendly oil-rich

Iraq, sector by sector

2003-08-15 Thread Eubulides
on Iraq in October. It is hoped that the survey will establish a clearer timetable for the work to be done and build confidence in the future. Some aid workers in Britain believe reconstruction is proceeding at a faster pace than in Kosovo and Afghanistan. But their optimism is little comfort

Kosovo/Iraq

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
A pattern of aggression Iraq was not the first illegal US-led attack on a sovereign state in recent times. The precedent was set in 1999 in Yugoslavia writes Kate Hudson Kate Hudson Thursday August 14, 2003 The Guardian The legality of the war against Iraq remains the focus of intense debate

No napalm in Iraq just clean old Mark 77 firebombs

2003-08-14 Thread k hanly
in Iraq, Marine Corps Maj. Gen. Jim Amos confirmed aircraft dropped what he and other Marines continue to call napalm on Iraqi troops on several occasions. He commanded Marine jet and helicopter units involved in the Iraq war and leads the Miramar-based 3rd Marine Air Wing. Miramar pilots familiar

Re: US war against Iraq post-mortem

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
General Winter won three in Russia. But I wonder if all three were not really won by Russian feudalism. Feudalist culture (declining or not) had the singular ability to absorb massive blows to the communications infrastructure without collapsing. (That's why they had fiefdoms... and created

immunity for oil companies in Iraq

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
From MS SLATE's on-line summary of major US newspapers today: The LA [TIMES] goes inside with word of concerns over an executive order signed by President Bush two months ago that may give U.S. oil companies blanket immunity from lawsuits and criminal prosecution over the sale of Iraqi oil. As

US war against Iraq post-mortem

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
From MS SLATE's on-line summary of major US newspapers: While the NY [TIMES] reported yesterday that the fall of Baghdad was aided by Iraqi turncoats, the LA [TIMES] cites another reason on Page One this morning: the self-destruction of the Iraqi army. Citing former Iraqi commanders and

Costs of restoring Iraq oil..

2003-08-07 Thread k hanly
fields in the north and south of Iraq, the 33-page final work plan showed. Other areas needing repair included gas facilities, the distribution network and refineries. The plan was drawn up by officials of the Iraqi Ministry of Oil, Coalition Provisional Authority, the US Army Corps of Engineers

Cost of Iraq war and occupation

2003-08-02 Thread k hanly
Even if it does cost the US taxpayer a bundle, the windfall profits of a privatised oil industry going to the willing Bush buddies and the crony capitalists capturing of rebuilding contracts is surely worth it even if one adds the life values of a few US soldiers martyred to liberate Iraq Cheers

Re: Cost of Iraq war and occupation

2003-08-02 Thread Mike Ballard
going to the willing Bush buddies and the crony capitalists capturing of rebuilding contracts is surely worth it even if one adds the life values of a few US soldiers martyred to liberate Iraq Cheers, Ken Hanly Analysis: Soaring costs of 'rescuing' Iraq By Martin Sieff UPI Senior News

Helping wounded Marines returning from Iraq: we want to thank each person and corporation that has contributed to this effort

2003-07-27 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Just to show that there's different ways of supporting workers in uniform, and that the issue must be handled thoughtfully, here's an insightful clip from USA in Review, dated April 1, 2003 (April Fool's Day). An Open Letter to Supporters Concerning Our First Visit to the Wounded at Bethesda

NYTimes.com Article: U.S. May Be Forced to Go Back to U.N. for Iraq Mandate

2003-07-19 Thread Alejandro Valle Baeza
Be Forced to Go Back to U.N. for Iraq Mandate July 19, 2003 By CHRISTOPHER MARQUIS The Bush administration is being forced to turn to the U.N. because other nations are refusing to contribute troops or cash without U.N. approval. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/19/international/worldspecial

U.S. Extends Iraq Deployment of Key Army Division

2003-07-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Alas, we are letting them get away with decisions like the following without making a peep * U.S. Extends Iraq Deployment of Key Army Division July 14 - By Will Dunham WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Facing mounting security threats in Iraq, the U.S. military said on Monday thousands of soldiers

Re: U.S. Extends Iraq Deployment of Key Army Division

2003-07-15 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alas, we are letting them get away with decisions like the following without making a peep = 'They' didn't listen to 'us' for the last 12 years of the war; what makes you think they'll listen now?

Re: U.S. Extends Iraq Deployment of Key Army Division

2003-07-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
- Original Message - From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alas, we are letting them get away with decisions like the following without making a peep = 'They' didn't listen to 'us' for the last 12 years of the war; what makes you think they'll listen now?

Rumsfeld Says Iraq May Need a Larger Force -- Start Your Campaign Now!

2003-07-14 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Dear ANSWER, UFPJ, NION, RJ911, NNEWAI, VFP, other organizers: It is crucial for us to get a campaign to Bring the Troops Home Now and End the Occupation off ground _before_ the Pentagon sends _more_ US troops to Iraq in response to Iraqi resistance. We have _no time to lose_. We can't wait

Blair 'oversold' Iraq threat

2003-07-11 Thread Chris Burford
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,995928,00.html

exports to Iraq

2003-07-09 Thread Eubulides
U.S. Firms Eager To Sell in Iraq Laws, Security Fears Still Major Obstacles By Jackie Spinner Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, July 9, 2003; Page E01 At his truck wash off Interstate 90 in Billings, Mont., Don Haugan runs a little side business making a special industrial cleaner

Turkey-US-Iraq

2003-07-06 Thread Eubulides
July 6, 2003, 1:25AM U.S. forces detain Turkish special forces in northern Iraq Associated Press ISTANBUL, Turkey -- The United States seized 11 Turkish special forces in a raid in northern Iraq, but released several Saturday after vigorous protests from the NATO ally. The detentions threatened

Winning in Palestine, losing in Iraq

2003-07-02 Thread Chris Burford
how to coordinate them if it wishes. Meanwhile the signals mount daily that the US could lose badly in Iraq. Its excuse for staying there is that Iraq would disintegrate between its different communities, but the three main consituencies in Iraq appear sophisticated about accommodating each other

India, Iraq, imperialism

2003-07-02 Thread Eubulides
Imperial history repeats itself Once again, Indians are being asked to fight Iraqis for empire's sake Randeep Ramesh Thursday July 3, 2003 The Guardian The blood has barely dried on the British empire than it has already begun to seep over its American successor. The US occupation of Iraq

Iraq: the full colonial press

2003-06-29 Thread Ian Murray
And now for the really big guns War is one thing, but can Iraq survive full-on assault by Wall Street? Ed Vulliamy and Faisal Islam report Sunday June 29, 2003 The Observer After the war, the corporate invasion. Bechtel, the US construction giant, now leads the rebuilding of Iraq's

severe Brit losses in Iraq

2003-06-25 Thread Chris Burford
and guard against anything like revenge. The INC representative essentially argued that this attack in southern Iraq was not linked to the spate of attacks against the US forces in the Sunni areas. Dan Plesch was quoted on BBC1 as saying that in the last few days attacks on the US forces have averaged one

Re: severe Brit losses in Iraq

2003-06-25 Thread Chris Burford
side stepped the question of the alteration of key phrases linking Iraq to terrorism in other countries and merely said it was a mistake to publish it without acknowledgement of sources. A storm in a teacup - as opposed to a complete Horlicks according to the foreign secretary. And the suggestion

Re: A dubious model of severe Brit losses in Iraq

2003-06-24 Thread Chris Burford
At 2003-06-24 13:42 -0400, Louis Proyect quoted: USA TODAY, May 30, 2003 British postwar approach provides model for U.S. Our view: Chaos and hostility are less prevalent in area controlled by ally. NY Times, June 24, 2003 6 British Soldiers Are Killed in Southern Iraq By KIRK SEMPLE Six

US: Outsourcing the occupation of Iraq

2003-06-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
Turkey offers 1,200-1,800 soldiers to assist US in Iraq The United States Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz declared that Turkey offered relief aid and other assistance in the rebuild of Iraq, as well as 1,200 to 1,800 troops. According to a news article published in influential

FW: From New Zealand to Iraq; a reflection on Bremer's theory

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: FW: From New Zealand to Iraq; a reflection on Bremer's theory [I wonder: what happened to the balance of political power in NZ that pushed and allowed Rogernomics? -- Jim] From: Jurriaan Bendien Bremer was quoted as saying: A fundamental component of this process will be to force

Re: Banned in Iraq

2003-06-18 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L] Banned in Iraq speaking of which, here's a letter to the editors of the L.A. TIMES: With all the recent disclosures about the false infomation used by the Bush administration as grounds for the Iraq invasion, the worst of all scenarios has come to pass -- the French were

America's rebuilding of Iraq is in chaos

2003-06-17 Thread Chris Burford
weakness of his position. CB America's rebuilding of Iraq is in chaos, say British By Peter Foster in Baghdad http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$Z5H4F5Q4KC5OHQFIQMFCFF4AVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2003/06/17/wirq17.xmlsSheet=/portal/2003/06/17/ixportaltop.html (Filed: 17/06/2003

British troops face four years in Iraq

2003-06-17 Thread Chris Burford
. This is a media offensive driven by as much by fear as by inter-imperialist rivalry. Significant that it has again been placed in a Conservative leaning paper. CB British troops face four years in Iraq By Michael Evans, Defence Editor and Richard Beeston in Baghdad BRITISH troops could be stuck in Iraq

Re: America's rebuilding of Iraq is in chaos

2003-06-17 Thread Robert Scott Gassler
right in Britain, including the British military. Blair may need all party cover for his exit strategy all the more so in view of the increasing weakness of his position. CB America's rebuilding of Iraq is in chaos, say British By Peter Foster in Baghdad http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml

Banned in Iraq

2003-06-17 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
* Iraq's lethal peace It could yet change American minds Leader Monday June 16, 2003 The Guardian ...Almost unnoticed outside Iraq, the senior US administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, has issued a proclamation outlawing any gatherings, pronouncements or publications that call for the return

More serious Iraq resistance

2003-06-16 Thread Chris Burford
BBC Newsnight, Monday night had two items from Iraq. 1) Interview with Fedayeen in Baghdad where attacks on US military have spread from the Sunni triangle to the north west of the city. Man appearing on camera with face pixilated out, holding a grenade. Plus report of a fedayeen document which

Iraq oil sold.

2003-06-13 Thread k hanly
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2003/06/13/cnoil13.xm l/ Iraqi oil awarded to a variety of nations By Malcolm Moore (Filed: 13/06/2003) The first crude oil to come out of Iraq after the war was yesterday awarded to a surprisingly international group of oil companies

Columbia University video forum on Iraq

2003-06-12 Thread Louis Proyect
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/news/vforum/03/modern_iraq/index.html This will probably be a mixed bag with people like Gary Sick included, but might have some interesting data to consider nonetheless. Louis Proyect, Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org

BBC: Parliament watchdog criticises Iraq dossier

2003-06-10 Thread Chris Burford
Spy watchdog criticises dossier The dodgy dossier which mixed intelligence information about Iraq with a US student's thesis was not checked by intelligence chiefs before it was published, a committee of MPs and peers has said. Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee (ISC) makes

War in Iraq could cost Arab countries a trillion dollars

2003-04-14 Thread soula avramidis
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2cid=1514e=8u=/afp/20030414/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_war_escwa_losses_030414230117 War in Iraq could cost Arab countries a trillion dollarsDo you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

UK news on Iraq Sunday am

2003-04-06 Thread Chris Burford
to an Iraqi claim that the skeletons found in the abandoned military camp were bodies repatriated after the Iran Iraq war. The Observer has a graphic description which gives a number of speculations but no reference to the possibility that the bodies could be victims of the war (which would fit

US/Iraq vs. Iraq/Kuwait

2003-04-05 Thread Devine, James
Title: US/Iraq vs. Iraq/Kuwait in all of the anti-war slogans, posters, literature, etc., I've never noticed anyone saying that the legal and moral status of the US invasion of Iraq is exactly on the same level as Iraq's invasion of Kuwait 13 years or so ago: it's an illegal grab for oil

Iraq; dollarization?

2003-04-04 Thread Ian Murray
Any thoughts from the list, given the spate of conjectures on the dollar/euro binary?

RE: Iraq; dollarization?

2003-04-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36593] Iraq; dollarization? dollarization of Iraq is quite likely, not because of dollar vs. euro competition as much as because (1) the U.S. will be in charge; and (2) the current dominant policy ideology still says that dollarization is a good idea. The benefit

Indigenous Peoples against Iraq war

2003-04-03 Thread k hanly
http://www.quechuanetwork.org/news_template.cfm?news_id=672lang=s Indigenous Peoples Declaration Against United States Invasion of Iraq Ottawa - Canada - (Posted on Apr-01-2003) The representatives of the Indigenous Peoples of the Americas gathered during the second Annual Forum of Connectivity

UK askance of US Iraq plans

2003-04-03 Thread Chris Burford
Jack Straw on Channel 4 News referred to the plan for a US administration with a cabinet of 23 Americans, as a proposal of part of the US administration. He suggested it was not yet decided that Jay Garner would be head of the civilian administration. Humanitarian skirmishing continues.

Carving up Iraq oil

2003-04-03 Thread k hanly
Holding Iraq oil in trust for US oil companies. This article is from last November!! Cheers, Ken Hanly http://www.observer.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,825099,00.html The Observer November 3, 2002 Carve-up of oil riches begins US plans to ditch industry rivals and force end of Opec, write Peter

Re: Carving up Iraq oil

2003-04-03 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: k hanly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:12 PM Subject: [PEN-L:36565] Carving up Iraq oil Holding Iraq oil in trust for US oil companies. This article is from last November!! Cheers, Ken Hanly

Re: UK askance of US Iraq plans?

2003-04-03 Thread Chris Burford
Jack Straw this morning is quoted as jostling (amiably of course) for a very swift transition to an interim Iraqi administration before a permanent Iraqi administration. But as US sources are talking of setting up an interim Iraqi government by as early as next week, this inter-imperialist

Re: Carving up Iraq oil

2003-04-03 Thread soula avramidis
all odds. If my message appears cryptic because my mind has become somewhat esoteric, here’s the latest joke: the US wants to divide Iraq into three provinces: regular, super and unleaded. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more

Roy on Iraq War (long)

2003-04-02 Thread k hanly
. A marketplace. A home. A girl who loves a boy. A child who only ever wanted to play with his older brother's marbles. On March 21, the day after American and British troops began their illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq, an embedded CNN correspondent interviewed an American soldier. I wanna get

Squabbles about who will run Iraq

2003-04-02 Thread k hanly
from the Independent http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=393124 Pentagon vetoes new task force to take control of Baghdad By Rupert Cornwell in Washington 02 April 2003 The parallel internal war in Washington over Iraq flared again yesterday when the Pentagon vetoed

civilian deaths in Iraq

2003-04-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: civilian deaths in Iraq [I've been thinking for awhile that though the idea of embedding journalists in military units seems brilliant at first sight (since it encourages a worms-eye view of the war, missing the big picture (to be filled in with Pentagon briefings) and the Stockholm

US draws up secret plan to impose regime on Iraq

2003-04-01 Thread Chris Burford
broken out at a senior level within the Bush administration over a new government that the US is secretly planning in Kuwait to rule Iraq in the immediate aftermath of the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. Under the plan, the government will consist of 23 ministries, each headed by an American. Every

Eric Margolis on Iraq war

2003-03-31 Thread k hanly
, 2003 Once more into the swamp Saddam learned a lesson in 1991, the U.S. and Britain did not ... now their forces are tied down fighting a guerrilla war in Iraq By ERIC MARGOLIS -- Contributing Foreign Editor The opening weeks of the Second Oil War against Iraq - a.k.a. Operation Iraq Freedom

Halliburton makes money. Iraq provides clients.

2003-03-31 Thread k hanly
Headquarters, Iraq, Tom Allard and agencies April 1 2003 http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/31/1048962706871.html United States forces have begun rounding up Iraqi men in civilian clothes suspected of being involved with paramilitary squads attacking them in southern Iraq and may ship some

reconstructing Iraq

2003-03-28 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.carlisle.army.mil/ssi/pubs/2003/reconirq/reconirq.htm RECONSTRUCTING IRAQ: INSIGHTS, CHALLENGES, AND MISSIONS FOR MILITARY FORCES IN A POST-CONFLICT SCENARIO Conrad C. Crane W. Andrew Terrill Strategic Studies Institute February 2003 The views expressed in this report are those

FW: useful web resources re Iraq

2003-03-28 Thread Devine, James
Title: FW: useful web resources re Iraq my friend Jennifer Olmstead sent me the following. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine stop the war now! Hi all, As someone who has been studying the Middle East for quite some time, I feel

Can't bomb Iraq and tell us to talk to Pak, India tells US

2003-03-26 Thread Tom Walker
? New Delhi, March 25: India on Tuesday countered the renewed call by the US for resumption of talks with Pakistan, asking why military action was resorted to against Iraq and Afghanistan instead of dialogue to resolve the crisis confronting the two countries. If dialogue per se is more critical

RE: Can't bomb Iraq and tell us to talk to Pak, India tells US

2003-03-26 Thread Max B. Sawicky
would be willing to endure and still support the war in Iraq. This was the heart of his response ... I think it all depends how the war goes. And I think the level of causalities is secondary. It may sound like an odd thing to say. But all the great scholars who have studied American character have

Iraq debt repayment

2003-03-26 Thread k hanly
Iraq Debt Debate Already Under Way By David Chance Reuters LONDON -- Iraq will pay its debts after Saddam Hussein is removed but will need a big write-off so the once-prosperous country's economy can grow again, an exiled former central banker who is also a senior opposition figure said

Peter Freundlich on NPR on Iraq war

2003-03-25 Thread k hanly
principle is that the UN's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gum, we will. Peace is too important not to take up arms to defend. Am I getting this right? Further, if the only way to bring democracy to Iraq is to vitiate the democracy

Arms sales to Iraq

2003-03-24 Thread Bill Lear
Does anyone have reliable data showing the amount of arms sales per country to Iraq over the past 20-25 years? I'm looking for something that would account for under-the-table transfers, transfers via third parties (e.g., US transferring arms to Iraq via Austria), and whatever else could

Post-war Iraq: Economy and Politics

2003-03-24 Thread k hanly
If the US denies Iraq democracy and independence, its freedom will be bought with blood Neal Ascherson Monday March 24, 2003 The Guardian The landscape after the battle, in a conquered country, does not smile in a warm morning of freedom. Instead, there begins a rat-infested twilight, and many

Re: RE: RE: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-24 Thread Peter Dorman
Im just getting back to this thread apologies if Im way behind the flow. Anyway, Krugman is OK as far as he goes. As I mentioned before, the euro-vs-dollar conspiracy crowd is simply wrong on the mechanics of how these things work. Whether oil is denominated in dollars or not is relevant, as

Re: Re: RE: RE: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-24 Thread Michael Perelman
I suspect that the vicious war in Iraq would make nations more likely to want to use an alternative to the dollar. I agree that the privilege of issuing a currency that serves as a unit of account offers the profits of seniorage, but I cannot see a war in the face of world public opinion shoring

US replacements for UN administration in Iraq

2003-03-24 Thread k hanly
, the administrators of post-war Iraq are patiently waiting in the wings. According to Arab press reports this weekend, the American occupation authorities intend to divide Iraq into three zones ­ a northern district that includes Kurdistan, a central one that includes Baghdad, and a predominantly

IT contracts in post-war Iraq

2003-03-23 Thread k hanly
to plan for the rebuilding of Iraq's infrastructure, including IT and telecommunications systems. Under a State Department program known as the Future of Iraq Project, Iraqi exiles with expertise in IT and other disciplines have delivered to the Bush administration studies and recommendations

Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-23 Thread Ellen Frank
. To the extent that they've thought about this at all, I suspect the Bush folks see the dollar's role as evidence of US power, see the war in Iraq as an assertion of US power and so imagine the war will help the dollar. I think they are correct that the international role of the dollar

Bush to Iraq: Treat prisoners like we would treat our prisoners

2003-03-23 Thread Moshe Pippik
(No war in Iraq - http://pnews.org/) Bush to Iraq: Treat prisoners like we would treat our prisoners Is he kidding? Like we treated those Taliban prisoners in Afghanistan? The ones who were tortured to death? AND let's not photograph those prisoners of war. That is a violation of the Geneva

RE: Bush to Iraq: Treat prisoners like we would treat our prisoners

2003-03-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:35996] Bush to Iraq: Treat prisoners like we would treat our prisoners P.S. Where are the WMDs the Iraqis are hiding? The U.S. has not been able to find them? they haven't been delivered yet. Hi, Hank! Jim Devine

Re: RE: RE: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-23 Thread Doug Henwood
Max B. Sawicky wrote: Krugman argues that the issue is a crock: http://www.wws.princeton.edu/~pkrugman/oildollar.html His argument looks right to me. He plays it down a bit too much I think. We've borrowed immense piles of money in dollars with no currency risk. The Fed could run the printing

Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
He plays it down a bit too much I think. We've borrowed immense piles of money in dollars with no currency risk. The Fed could run the printing presses around the clock, and the creditors would just have to live with it. It's not a bad deal. Doug I agree with Doug and think that the best

RE: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36003] Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War Sabri: I understand where P.K is coming from but however much I appreciate some of his contributions, just as all of us, he has his biases too. I like my biases better though. Any objections to that? even better is being

Re: RE: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PEN-L ' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: [PEN-L:36004] RE: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War Sabri: I understand where P.K is coming from but however much I appreciate some of his

Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-22 Thread Carrol Cox
This article by Geoffrey Heard is one of the better I've seen on the war. This URL takes you to the printer-friendly version. Carrol http://slash.autonomedia.org/print.pl?sid=03/03/20/1330253

Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-22 Thread Peter Dorman
I'm both happy and a bit embarrassed at the way this dollar-euro story is being picked up by the antiwar movement. I'm happy because the extreme vulnerability of the US payments situation is crucial to any analysis of the geopolitics of the current moment. Talking about this represents an

Re: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-22 Thread Michael Perelman
Ellen Frank did a nice job of handling this question on KPFA about a week ago. Maybe she should chime in. On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 12:25:44PM -0800, Peter Dorman wrote: I'm both happy and a bit embarrassed at the way this dollar-euro story is being picked up by the antiwar movement. I'm happy

RE: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-22 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:35927] Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War I'll plead ignorance and then speculate nonetheless: It seems to me that the clash of currencies is pretty one-sided. Though the Eurocrats would _like_ the Euro to be a world-class currency like the US$, it seems unlikely

RE: RE: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-22 Thread Max B. Sawicky
PROTECTED] Sent: 3/22/2003 12:25 PM Subject: [PEN-L:35927] Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War I'm both happy and a bit embarrassed at the way this dollar-euro story is being picked up by the antiwar movement. I'm happy because the extreme vulnerability of the US payments situation is crucial to any

Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-22 Thread Devine, James
Title: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War -Original Message- From: Devine, James To: 'Max B. Sawicky ' Sent: 3/22/2003 4:33 PM Subject: RE: [PEN-L:35942] RE: RE: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War I agree with PK that the war-for-the-dollar story is a crock

RE: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-22 Thread Max B. Sawicky
of Currencies and the Iraq War I agree with PK that the war-for-the-dollar story is a crock, but there are reasonable concerns among the financial elite about a steep fall of the US$ -- of the sort that happened in the late 1980s -- causing problems for the US economy and more importantly (for them

Cook claims Iraq has no significant WMD

2003-03-22 Thread k hanly
advocates of conflict claim that Saddam's forces are so weak, so demoralised and so badly equipped that the war will be over in a few days. We cannot base our military strategy on the assumption that Saddam is weak and at the same time justify pre-emptive action on the claim that he is a threat. Iraq

Re: RE: Re: Clash of Currencies and the Iraq War

2003-03-22 Thread Kelley
war) Or should the US engage in a thinly-masked piracy against certain odious third parties? Well, it depends what each European country stands to gain or lose. France and Germany are about to lose *big time* due to their investments in Iraq (and the next evil countries, Syria and Iran). Russia

Wallerstein on Iraq

2003-03-21 Thread k hanly
Bush Bets All He Has Mar. 15, 2003 The United States is in deep trouble. The President of the United States has taken an enormous gamble, and done it from a fundamentally weak position. He decided a year ago or so that the U.S. would make war on Iraq. He did this in order to demonstrate

Re: Re: Article on Illegality of Iraq war

2003-03-21 Thread k hanly
A talented lawyer arguing a weak case The attorney-general's assertion that the use of force against Iraq is legal without a second UN resolution does not stand scrutiny, says Matthew Happold Monday March 17, 2003 The attorney-general set out his views today on the legal basis for the use of force

The spoils of war to the victors aka Iraq Freedom project

2003-03-21 Thread k hanly
Iraq would be announced early next week, and another contract for the reconstruction of infrastructure such as bridges and roads was also expected to be awarded Tuesday or Wednesday. Delays in contacting the firms involved were blamed for the postponement. The deals are among eight civilian

Human Rights in Iraq

2003-03-20 Thread soula avramidis
20 March 2003 HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS APPEALS TO PARTIES IN IRAQ CONFLICT TO RESPECT HUMAN RIGHTS AND HUMANITARIAN LAW The following statement was issued today by United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Sergio Vieira de Mello: As hostilities begin in Iraq, I appeal

ICJ declares Iraq war illegal

2003-03-20 Thread k hanly
International Commission of Jurists (Geneva) http://www.icj.org/news.php3?id_article=2770lang=en Iraq - ICJ Deplores Moves Toward a War of Aggression on Iraq / La CIJ déplore l'annonce d'une guerre d'agression contre l'Irak / La CIJ lamenta los anuncios de una guerra de agresion contra Irak

Re: Article on Illegality of Iraq war

2003-03-20 Thread Michael Pollak
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, k hanly quoted a CESR report stating: It is the height of hypocrisy for the U.S. and U.K. to base war on Resolution 1441 when they are fully aware that France, Russia and China approved that resolution on explicit written condition that it could not be used by individual

The Kurds Turks the pressures re Iraq

2003-03-19 Thread Hari Kumar
http://harikumar.brinkster.net/AllianceIssues/CLOUD.htm

Legality of Iraq war

2003-03-19 Thread k hanly
There seem to be many discussions of this. Ad nauseam one hears that there are good arguments on both sides of the issue. Some Prof from Duke just said this on CBC radio and our defence minister takes the same position. Of course there arguments on both sides but the pro legality side has quite

FW: Iraq War - Predictions Past and Present

2003-03-19 Thread Devine, James
Title: FW: Iraq War - Predictions Past and Present some predictions about the war. From : Renee Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject : Iraq War - Predictions Past and Present Date : Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:10:18 -0800 To my students: I told you so. Back in 1999

Re: FW: Iraq War - Predictions Past and Present

2003-03-19 Thread k hanly
Title: FW: Iraq War - Predictions Past and Present An interesting article who is Martin? Of course the New American Century People are also after Saudi Arabia, Libya, Syria, Egypt and I forget the other ten...;) Cheers, Ken Hanly - Original Message - From: Devine, James

RE: Re: FW: Iraq War - Predictions Past and Present

2003-03-19 Thread Devine, James
Title: FW: Iraq War - Predictions Past and Present I don't know who Martin is. I simply forwarded it. BTW, a student told me that some CIA guy was on TV saying that Syria was next, in order to end that country's domination of Lebanon. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Iraq: Oil wells are burning

2003-03-19 Thread Sabri Oncu
Just read on Haberturk, a Turkish News Site, that oil wells in Iraq are on fire. The news piece said, details will follow soon. In the mean time here is an article from Houston Cronicle. Sabri + March 19, 2003, 10:59AM Saddam opens spigots on oil wells, reports say By DAVID IVANOVICH

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