To be honest, this is just more evidence of German
overmanning. Does an orchestra really need two
trombone players, a timpanist and an oboist, each of
whom only plays a couple of notes? Surely there's some
scope for retraining multitasking and flexible labour
practices here. If everyone
Even better, in the case of stuff by Wagner, just don't do it.
JD
Wagner's music is better than it sounds. -- Mark Twain (paraphrased).
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some of my best friends are Philistines.
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some of my best friends are Philistines.
Not all Philistines are philistines.
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In a way, the violinists' demands are not as strange as they seem.
Richard Biernacki has argued that the Germans and the British had a
different conception of labor -- the Germans historically measured labor
by something like Marx's labor power; the British, by the value produced
by labor. For
in German[y] publishers paid authors by the number
of pages they produced rather than by the sales of the books.
that would explain the verbose style of German authors?
but wasn't Dickens paid by the word?
Jim D.
I don't know about Dickens, but yes, even Marx complained about having
to make his book long for the damn German publisher.
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 09:10:13AM -0800, Devine, James wrote:
that would explain the verbose style of German authors?
but wasn't Dickens paid by the word?
Jim D.
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But Michael, number of pages produced is a measure of labor performed,
not labor power. And in Marxian terms, the value produced by labor is to
some extent redundant, since to Marx labor *is* the substance of value,
no? It would be more accurate to say on the basis of your example that the
Gil writes:
But Michael, number of pages produced is a measure of labor
performed, not labor power.
I was going to say something similar, but held off, since Michael doesn't seem to like
discussions of Marxian value theory. Note that number of pages produced isn't a very
good measure of
Regarding your first point, authors according to Biernacki, were paid by the page.
Goethe was upset that he was paid identically with the creator of some trash. The
only way to win an economic advantage was to produce more pages per hour. Perhaps,
this can lead to the creation of Internet
Isn't this being published a week too early?
We're being fiddled, say violinists
AP, Berlin
Wednesday March 24, 2004
The Guardian
Violinists at a German orchestra are suing for a pay rise on the grounds
that they play many more notes per concert than their musical colleagues
- a litigation that
of course, this isn't really about the labor theory of value, since the players
produce a collective product with a collective labor process in which external
benefits amongst workers imply that the effects of individual labors can't be
separated. Being paid more for more effort is about the
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