[PEN-L:3925] Re: Re: The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties

1999-02-26 Thread Peter Dorman
And one more: IF I HAD A HAMMER, by Maurice Isserman Peter Dorman

[PEN-L:3924] Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties

1999-02-26 Thread Peter Dorman
Hmmm, a few more thoughts: Read some of the old Zap Comics, then see the film "Crumb". (This may be depressing.) Many of the old situationist pamphlets have been collected in readers (sign of the times there). One that isn't available but which really conveys a sense of the period is the one

[PEN-L:3922] Re: Re: Re: Re: The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties

1999-02-26 Thread Peter Dorman
A brief aside on "The War at Home": As someone who lived in Madison during this time period and participated in these movements, knew the people on the screen, etc., I'd like to say that caution should be taken. This is a distorted view of what happened there. The biggest single distortion --

[PEN-L:3921] Re: Papa Doc and the Social ConstructionofRace

1999-02-26 Thread Peter Dorman
Well, it looks as though we have converged with at most small differences in nuance. The only clarification I want to add is that my comment about racism as an "instinct" could be translated as "calling something an instinct is just attaching a name to an assumption; it is not really an

[PEN-L:3920] Re: The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties

1999-02-26 Thread Michael Hoover
I am currently involved in planning an undergraduate "cluster course" for The topic for our course is "The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties". I would very much appreciate any related course syllabae, and especially any references to appropriate readings related to the "political economy" or

[PEN-L:3919] racist beast and crime issue

1999-02-26 Thread Jim Devine
I think that our censure of the racist killer should also include censure of the socio-economic system that produced him. What say you? I agree, though there's not much more to say in this thread. Maybe pen-l needs to discuss the broader issue of crime (brought up by Ken Hanly, I believe).

[PEN-L:3917] Re: Re: death penalty for racist beast

1999-02-26 Thread William S. Lear
On Friday, February 26, 1999 at 14:05:20 (-0800) Jim Devine writes: I wrote: is there anyone else out there who's feeling queasy because (1) if anyone does, John William King (and his yet-to-be-tried sidekicks) deserve the death penalty but (2) they have a principled opposition to the death

[PEN-L:3916] Re: Re: death penalty for racist beast

1999-02-26 Thread Seth Sandronsky
Jim, I think that our censure of the racist killer should also include censure of the socio-economic system that produced him. What say you? Seth Sandronsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:05:20 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:3915]

[PEN-L:3915] Re: death penalty for racist beast

1999-02-26 Thread Jim Devine
I wrote: is there anyone else out there who's feeling queasy because (1) if anyone does, John William King (and his yet-to-be-tried sidekicks) deserve the death penalty but (2) they have a principled opposition to the death penalty? Bill Lear writes: Pre-meditated murder is wrong. Nobody

[PEN-L:3913] Empty Labels (was Re: Butler, Nussbaum, Paglia)

1999-02-26 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Carrol wrote: It is because I put so much emphasis on theoretical reflection that I am engaged in my present campaign of everyone on these lists who engages in poisoning the wells of discourse by substituting empty labels like "elitist" or "pomo" for the description, naming, and critique of

[PEN-L:3912] Re: The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties

1999-02-26 Thread Seth Sandronsky
Steve, To those books suggested I'd add an excellent one on the black freedom movement titled "SNCC: The New Abolitionists" by Howard Zinn. Seth Sandronsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:24:30 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Steve Cullenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

[PEN-L:3911] RE: Re: Re: Re: The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties

1999-02-26 Thread Max Sawicky
Sam, your prior list and this one is very good. I would add many books on the social movements of the 60's, some below deal with Vietnam more than others; e.g., Ah, memory lane. I'd suggest The New Left Reader, ed Carl Oglesby. A good anthology/sampling of diverse currents of thought,

[PEN-L:3910] The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties

1999-02-26 Thread Louis Proyect
Peter Bohmer: "The War Within" by Tom Wells I want to endorse this book beyond use in the classroom. I have never read anything that comes close to describing the ins and outs of the antiwar movement. Wells follows a very interesting method. He interviews many of the participants and ruling

[PEN-L:3909] Re: Asia's Model of Development

1999-02-26 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Last I wondered whether one could argue that Asia was facing a high level equilibrium trap although it had a superior output-to-seed than Europe's? Landes examination of China's high crop yield/labor intensive model of development, brief as it is, may be useful here. He writes "anyone who

[PEN-L:3908] Re: Re: Re: The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties

1999-02-26 Thread Peter Bohmer
Sam, your prior list and this one is very good. I would add many books on the social movements of the 60's, some below deal with Vietnam more than others; e.g., "In Struggle" by Clayborne Carson, "The Imagination of the New Left" by George Katsiaficas "Personal Politics" by Sara Evans, I've Got

[PEN-L:3907] Re: death penalty for racist beast

1999-02-26 Thread William S. Lear
On Friday, February 26, 1999 at 08:06:20 (-0800) Jim Devine writes: ... is there anyone else out there who's feeling queasy because (1) if anyone does, John William King (and his yet-to-be-tried sidekicks) deserve the death penalty but (2) they have a principled opposition to the death penalty?

[PEN-L:3906] Papa Doc and the Social ConstructionofRace

1999-02-26 Thread Charles Brown
This is alright. I didn't take time to write out the anti-racist biological assertion that in looking at the "totality" of phenotypes and genotypes of the pseudobiological racial categories of based on skin color etc., there are greater ranges of differences within the socalled races than

[PEN-L:3905] Re: death penalty for racist beast

1999-02-26 Thread Ken Hanly
Why should one feel queasy about not killing King? I don't think my opposition to the death penalty is entirely principled. I just don't think there is evidence that it has any significant effect on murder rates. It is not a deterrent. If it were a significant deterrent I might very well

[PEN-L:3904] Re: death penalty

1999-02-26 Thread DOUG ORR
Jim Devine asks: is there anyone else out there who's feeling queasy because (1) if anyone does, John William King (and his yet-to-be-tried sidekicks) deserve the death penalty but (2) they have a principled opposition to the death penalty? Yes, you are not alone. Doug Orr

[PEN-L:3903] Re: Re: death penalty for racist beast

1999-02-26 Thread sokol
At 08:19 AM 2/26/99 -0800, Michael Perelman wrote: I absolutely agree with Jim D. in what he says below. I would also add that I suspect that King's father and lawyer might be telling the truth in saying that he was not particularly racist before going to prison. is there anyone else out there

[PEN-L:3902] Re: Re: The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties

1999-02-26 Thread Sam Pawlett
Also; Kate Millet Sexual Politics S. Firestone The Dialectics of Sex Erica Jong Fear of Flying D.Cooper ed. Dialectics of Liberation. The movie 'Platoon' is instructive in that two characters represent the political spectrum, one played by Willem Dafoe represents the doves( Anthony

[PEN-L:3901] Jim Craven on Burn

1999-02-26 Thread Louis Proyect
Jim is in between email accounts, so he asked me to pass this on. From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 7:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:3867] Re: The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties Burn, with Marlon Brando. Wonderful film

[PEN-L:3900] RE: Re: death penalty for racist beast

1999-02-26 Thread Max Sawicky
I absolutely agree with Jim D. in what he says below. I would also add that I suspect that King's father and lawyer might be telling the truth in saying that he was not particularly racist before going to prison. is there anyone else out there who's feeling queasy because (1) if anyone

[PEN-L:3898] Re: Colonial trade

1999-02-26 Thread Colin Danby
Hello Joseph, What are the "Transition Debates" that you are referring to? Sorry for the jargon. Leaping off the shelf is: Hilton, ed. 1976. _The Transition from Feudalism to Capitalism_ Verso. as a starting point. Others on this list could give more extensive and recent references. Best,

[PEN-L:3897] Re: Re: Re: Re: Papa Doc and the Social Construction ofRace

1999-02-26 Thread Ken Hanly
But surely Charles has a point. Physical characteristics are used , rightly or wrongly, as a basis for racial identification even though race is a social construct. That is, there is a gross physical basis for people's recognition of someone as being of a certain race. It is because of that

[PEN-L:3896] Re: The Vietnam War Era and the Sixties

1999-02-26 Thread Sam Pawlett
If I was to teach a course on the 60's: Michael Vickery, Malcolm Caldwell and Ben Kiernan on Cambodia. Alfred McCoy The Politics of Heroin James Miller Democracy is in the Streets Martin Lee Acid Dreams Michael Herr Dispatches F.Fitzgerald Fire in the Lake Howard Zinn The Politics of History

[PEN-L:3895] Re: death penalty for racist beast

1999-02-26 Thread Dale Tussing
In 1987, the U.S. Supreme Court, apparently accepting as correct the evidence that the death penalty is unfairly and unevenly imposed, nonetheless ordered a black defendant convicted of murder to be executed. This was the case of Warren McCleskey, the most important death penalty case of our

[PEN-L:3894] Re: Re: Grassroot competition

1999-02-26 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
Of course, he is a NY Times columnist. But he also writes on global affairs I seldom agree with his points of views, but there is no denying he is a sharp analyst. Through him, one get a window on the thinking of the establishment. I respect him as an informed adversary and occasional ally of

[PEN-L:3893] Asia's Model of Development

1999-02-26 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
I said earlier that, according to Frank, China's decision to continue to rely on its old technology was "rational" given China's cheap labor. Cheap not because it was poor but because of its agricultural efficiency and productivity which, by providing cheap and plentiful foodstuffs, allowed

[PEN-L:3892] Thy Will be Done

1999-02-26 Thread Louis Proyect
Michael Perelman: I have been trying to get Louis Proyect to read Thy Will be Done. You can find Walters and Brazil there. Oh yeah, I should have mentioned. The Dark Notes journal has a lengthy review of the book, which I am sure they won't mind sharing as a way to entice folks to subscribe:

[PEN-L:3891] Re: Grassroot competition

1999-02-26 Thread Sam Pawlett
Henry C.K. Liu wrote: Freidman normally writes about foreign affairs. He is also an apologist for Israeli atrocities in Lebanon. cf Chomsky The Fateful Triangle. Sam

[PEN-L:3890] Dark Night Field Notes: a journal of indigenous struggles

1999-02-26 Thread Louis Proyect
I just received my first issue of "Dark Night Field Notes," (number 14). I strongly recommend it to anybody with interests in indigenous struggles, which should really include anybody with progressive politics. The great advantage of this journal is that places indigenous struggles in the context

[PEN-L:3889] Re: Butler, Nussbaum, Paglia

1999-02-26 Thread Carrol Cox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this privileging of practice really bugs me. normally i'd side with you but i'll have to say that there's something to be said for theoretical reflection, There is *everything* to be said for theoretical reflection; there can be little excuse for the very

[PEN-L:3888] Re: death penalty for racist beast

1999-02-26 Thread michael
I absolutely agree with Jim D. in what he says below. I would also add that I suspect that King's father and lawyer might be telling the truth in saying that he was not particularly racist before going to prison. is there anyone else out there who's feeling queasy because (1) if anyone does,

[PEN-L:3887] death penalty for racist beast

1999-02-26 Thread Jim Devine
SLATE reports today: USA TODAY describes [John William] King upon his condemnation as "unrepentant and Smirking," and notes that he is the first white person to face execution for killing a black person in modern Texas history. The paper goes on to report that since the Supreme Court reinstated

[PEN-L:3886] Grassroot competition

1999-02-26 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
Freidman normally writes about foreign affairs. But I guess with globalization and the internet, global affairs had combined foreign and domestic affairs. The next competition for Amazon.com will come not just from Cedar Falls, Iowa, but from Mexico and Canada and then from Asia. The New York

[PEN-L:3885] December archives of the Marxism mailing list

1999-02-26 Thread Louis Proyect
I just added December discussions to the archives of the Marxism mailing list: (http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/new_archive.htm) I also made some cosmetic changes that will be much easier on the eyes. December's postings include: === --Australian politics, culture and economics

[PEN-L:3884] Strange Bedfellows

1999-02-26 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
This issue is of critical importance and highly complex. Positions are being taken and alliances formed by strange political bedfellows that will shift as the issue revolves. It will touch on every aspects of the global economy, security, individual privacy and freedom. Some discussion may help

[PEN-L:3883] Re: World System Holistic?

1999-02-26 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Sam, Some of the questions you raised I touched on last month in the WS list. So here is another rewrite of an earlier post (sorry for this but my time to prepate the paper on Re-Orient is running out). Serious macro theorists know that structures can only be produced and reproduced through

[PEN-L:3882] Fwd: infrastructureboundary=part0_920041232_boundary

1999-02-26 Thread EST
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_920041232_boundary In a message dated 2/25/99 6:17:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: infrastructure Date: 2/25/99 6:17:38 AM Pacific Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Long Standing Bear Chief)

[PEN-L:3881] Good News

1999-02-26 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
New York Times Front Page February 26, 1999 In Biggest Drive Since 1937, Union Gains a Victory By STEVEN GREENHOUSE LOS ANGELES -- Winning the biggest unionization drive in more than half a century, the Service Employees International Union gained the right

[PEN-L:3880] Re: request for materials

1999-02-26 Thread Louis Proyect
Richard Barnet-- Global Dreams Burbach-Kargalitsky-- Globalization and its Discontents Kim Moody-- Workers in a Lean World William Robinson-- Promoting Polyarchy Globalization US Intervention and Hegemony William Greider-- One World Ready or Not Louis Proyect

[PEN-L:3879] request for materials

1999-02-26 Thread Michael Yates
Friends, I am team-teaching a course with an anthropology teacher next fall. the course is titled, "Global Political Economy." I need some suggestions on materials. Reply privately or to list if of general interest. Any reading lists or syllabi would be great. Thanks. michael yates

[PEN-L:3878] BLS Daily Report

1999-02-26 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --_=_NextPart_000_01BE6192.3BED1C50 BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 1999 Wage data compiled by BNA in the first eight weeks of 1999 showed that

[PEN-L:3877] Perils of Privatization

1999-02-26 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
RETHINKING ASIA The Perils of Privatization By Walden Bello March 4, 1999 In 1998, the Pohang Iron Steel Co.--or Posco--dislodged long-time industry leader Nippon Steel to become the world's No. 1

[PEN-L:3876] Query

1999-02-26 Thread Louis Proyect
That's some update. The 1982 edition I have sitting in front of me has 478 pages. At 08:06 PM 2/25/99 -0500, you wrote: The Amazon.com catalogue lists a new publication by David Harvey called _Limits to Capital_ to be published in April of this year (192 pgs). Is this an update of his earlier

[PEN-L:3875] Re: Postmodernist Marxism

1999-02-26 Thread rc-am
louis wrote: ...Felix Guattari...was a psychoanalyst ... Their first collaboration was the 1972 "Anti-Oedipus". Massumi interprets this work as a polemic against "State-happy or pro-party versions of Marxism". massumi does not reduce 'anti-oedipus' to a polemic against statist marxism.

[PEN-L:3873] Re: Re: Colonial trade

1999-02-26 Thread Joseph Green
Colin Danby wrote: The question that can be raised, though, is to what extent is the development of class structure a strictly internal matter. The issue has already been done to death in the Transition Debates, but at the risk of sounding vacuous let me suggest that for large changes

[PEN-L:3872] Re: Serbia

1999-02-26 Thread Joseph Green
John Lacny wrote: I don't have much time, but I should clarify a few things. I also am short of time, and apologize for the delay in my reply, which is partly due to problems with my internet service provider. First off, I am not hewing to the trot line of "military but

[PEN-L:3868] Right-wing Oz on Right-wing Clinton

1999-02-26 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Penners, It is my considered position that the best insight into how Murdoch is thinking about issues du jour is to read this bloke. Anyway, in case Yanks are as obsessed with what others are writing about them as Australians (pathetically) are, here's a right-wing Australian spraying

[PEN-L:3840] Re: Postmodernist Marxism

1999-02-26 Thread rc-am
In addition, I have spent many hours--too many, in point of fact--reading Deleuze-Guattari... so, what do you think of deleuze and guattari's book 'communists like us'? angela

[PEN-L:3833] Re: subsumption questions, round 2

1999-02-26 Thread rc-am
tom, jim, hsin-hsing, others: tom wrote: Upon re-reading, I also see clearly the two forms (formal/real) can coexist. However, I see nothing in this text on *reversion back* to formal subsumption (as may be the case with structural adjustment, etc.). and this I think was my problem. a