Re: absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-08 Thread Chris Burford
Does the empirical generalization suggested below have validity today nationally or globally ? Of course. Absolutely. The industrial reserve army of unemployed or under-employed numbers billions in a world in which relative wages vary up to 30 fold ! The greater the centralization of capital

Re: absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-08 Thread sartesian
Chris Burford states at the beginning of his post that the general law exists only to conclude, in his remedy, that Marx expresses the law upside down: Chris argues that the result of this law is the relative privilege and well being of the workers in the metropolitan countries, and that the only

The housing bubble

2004-07-08 Thread Marvin Gandall
(Despite widespread speculation that the turn in the interest rate cycle will burst the housing bubble in the US and elsewhere, precipitating a wider financial and social crisis, early indications are that housing markets will soften and stagnate rather than collapse, according to a report in

Re: absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-08 Thread Chris Burford
- Original Message - From: sartesian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] absolute general law of capitalist accumulation Chris Burford states at the beginning of his post that the general law exists only to conclude, in his

the absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-08 Thread Charles Brown
How broad does Marx intend this generalization to be ? His use of the term absolute seems to indicate that he is predicting that this generalization reaches beyond the specific English illustrations of the law he discusses. Charles ^^ The greater the social wealth, the functioning

absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-08 Thread Charles Brown
by sartesian -clip- Any number of radicals, of left or right, can and will argue that the workers in the advanced countries must sacrifice their wealth for reasons of right and left-- like the national good, the international good, the moral good, and for the sake of the soul. But such

Re: the absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-08 Thread Devine, James
Marx qualifies this absolute law immediately after stating it. For him, it's a law at the level of capital in general, the subject of volume I of CAPITAL. However, it might be changed by the competition of capitals, e.g., the uneven development of capital on the world scale. During the period

Re: Hidden costs of living

2004-07-08 Thread Diane Monaco
Interesting article, Michael. I had read somewhere that credit card companies were now extracting from consumers around $1 billion per year in late fees, but the article suggests that it's more than 10 times that at $11.6 billion per year. That's a travesty! I think a major factor is that

[Fwd: TNR Online | July Surprise?]

2004-07-08 Thread ravi
Original Message http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040719s=aaj071904 PAKISTAN FOR BUSH. July Surprise? by John B. Judis, Spencer Ackerman Massoud Ansari [...] This spring, the administration significantly increased its pressure on Pakistan to kill or capture Osama bin Laden,

Moore review

2004-07-08 Thread Dan Scanlan
Fahrenheit On The Brain Who cares if Moore's flick is flawed, shameless propaganda? At least it makes America think By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist Wednesday, July 7, 2004 Oh my God but Michael Moore is

House Votes to Overturn Cuba Parcel Rules

2004-07-08 Thread Diane Monaco
House Votes to Overturn Cuba Parcel Rules Wed Jul 7, 2004 11:09 PM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday voted in favor of overturning new Bush Administration rules banning items including clothing, seeds and soap from being sent in parcels to Cuba. Last

Political Rappers, Palestinian and Jewish

2004-07-08 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Political Rappers, Palestinian and Jewish (about the Iron Sheik; Jacqueline Salloum; T. N. -- a k a Tamer Nafar -- and DAM; JDub Records; Segol 59; Subliminal [né Kobi Shimoni]; and Matisyahu), with links to some songs: http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/political-rappers-palestinian-and.html --

Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Did anybody see Salvador, a typically overheated Oliver Stone flick? James Woods (a reactionary in real life) plays a hardboiled reporter whose primary message seems to be war is hell? Although I can't imagine why anybody would want to aspire to this kind of cliche in real life, Christian

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Perelman, Michael
I believe that he was shot at while in Iraq. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University michael at ecst.csuchico.edu Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Doug Henwood
Perelman, Michael wrote: I believe that he was shot at while in Iraq. I'm making an exception to my usual rule of ignoring Proyect, but this really pisses me off. Christian has spent a total of nearly three months in Iraq. He's been in the middle of firefights and met with insurgents who

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Doug Henwood wrote: I'm making an exception to my usual rule of ignoring Proyect, but this really pisses me off. Christian has spent a total of nearly three months in Iraq. He's been in the middle of firefights and met with insurgents who threatened to kill him. You mean this sort of James Bond

absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-08 Thread Charles Brown
I appreciate what you are saying about Marx qualifying his statement. I believe all social scientific empirical generalizations are less than 100% true ( including the one I am making here ? Reflexivity alert :)). I wonder whether the use of the term absolute is some type of rhetorical advice to

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Michael Perelman
He was running around with Dar Jamil, who has been regularly reporting for KPFA. Dar was in the middle of everything, so I assume that Christian was also. Again, the personal stuff adds nothing here. I don't agree with some of what Christian says, but you can just point out the disagreements

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread s.artesian
Hey wait a minute, as someone who has been unsubbed by all three of you, I have to say Michael's response to the self-aggrandizing bleatings of Henwood and Proyect is an insult to those of us who value the value of real insults. In baseball the umpire warns both benches once and then tosses the

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Michael Perelman wrote: He was running around with Dar Jamil, who has been regularly reporting for KPFA. Dar was in the middle of everything, so I assume that Christian was also. I still urge you or anybody else to track down last month's Harpers. The picture drawn of Falluja has nothing in

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: He was running around with Dar Jamil, who has been regularly reporting for KPFA. Dar was in the middle of everything, so I assume that Christian was also. Again, the personal stuff adds nothing here. I don't agree with some of what Christian says, but you can just point

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Michael Perelman
Come on, Lou. You know better than than to talk like that. As I said before, Dar Jamil gives a very different picture of Falluja, but that is no reaon to attack him personally. Michael Moore put in his dig at Mumia. I resented it at the time, but I can still enjoy his new movie, despite having

Upcoming Conference on The Right to Self Determination, the UN and Civil Society

2004-07-08 Thread Craven, Jim
Title: Message Attached is a notice for an upcoming conference in Geneva from August 6-8 on The Right to Self Determination, the UN and Civil Society at which I have been invited to present some work. Those in Europe or planning to be in Europe at the time might want to come and attend.

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Joel Wendland
Louis Proyect ranted: With the security situation deteriorating rapidly in the country (thank goodness), young Parenti (son of Michael) seems content to report from the relative safety of a Baghdad hotel. First why anybody would say thank goodness to a deteriorating security situation (which means

Oil surprises

2004-07-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Tomgram: Marshall Auerback on oil surprises Among the early goals of the Bush administration, controlling global energy flows was certainly right at the top of the list; so imagine the irony (not that Bush's men are much into irony) -- this administration might, in part, be sunk by soaring

Vets, current military and grass-roots Organizing

2004-07-08 Thread Craven, Jim
Title: Message There is a difference beweenunderstanding--and starting at--where people are ideologically, conscious-awareness-wise, etc, and moving from there, to actually pandering to where people are in order to get their ear and attention. As a Blackfoot and U.S. Army veteran, I am

CUBA POLICY: HOUSE VOTE LAST NIGHT AND ACTION REQUESTS

2004-07-08 Thread Diane Monaco
July 8, 2004 Dear Cuba Policy Advocates: We have had a surprise victory! Last night the House of Representatives voted 221-194 to ban funding of the Commerce Department’s section of the new Bush Administration Cuba regulations. The regulations under this department are: · Limit the amount of

Relief convoy defies Cuba embargo

2004-07-08 Thread Diane Monaco
Relief convoy defies Cuba embargo The Associated Press Thu, Jul. 08, 2004 HIDALGO, Texas School buses and other vehicles loaded with medical and office equipment crossed the border into Mexico on Wednesday on a relief trip to Cuba that violates the U.S. embargo. It was the 14th consecutive year

Re: DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

2004-07-08 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/07/04 3:50 PM What kind of national party runs 50 separate campaigns? Why not go down to the county level and run 3000 campaigns? Doug questionable whether u.s. has any national parties at all... in any event, electoral college makes for 50 state elections for prez so

Re: An editorial worth repeating

2004-07-08 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/07/04 2:44 PM Monthly Review, Feb. 2001 The Nader Campaign and the Future of U.S. Left Electoral Politics by The Editors In our view, the Nader campaign was the electoral side of the mass organizing that produced the extraordinary demonstrations in Seattle in 1999 and in

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread s.artesian
Speaking of disturbed-- why is it that Mr. Wendland bemoans the deteriorating security in Iraq without looking at the source of that deterioration, which is the US destruction of the Iraqi society? Why is it that Mr. Wendland poses his questions before grappling with the one that he should

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Comrade Wendland's email somehow got lost in my spam filter, so let me respond to it now. First why anybody would say thank goodness to a deteriorating security situation (which means a lot of people -- mostly Iraqis -- are getting killed) seems to contradict Carrol Cox's repetitive and

Re: absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-08 Thread Gil Skillman
Concerning Marx's statement of the absolute general law of capitalist accumulation, Charles asks Does the empirical generalization suggested below have validity today nationally or globally ? You could certainly point to recent economic phenomena supporting an affirmative answer to this question.

Michael Moore's Dilemma: Israel, Saudi Arabia, and John Kerry

2004-07-08 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Michael Moore's Dilemma: Israel, Saudi Arabia, and John Kerry (There are two conspicuous absences in Fahrenheit 9/11: John Kerry and Israel. The two absences are dependent on each other. Plus, notes on John Kerry's latest policy paper on Israel John Kerry: Strengthening Israel's Security and

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Joel Wendland
Louis Proyect wrote: Comrade Wendland's email somehow got lost in my spam filter, so let me respond to it now. I'm not your comrade, brother; but I am glad to know that you filter out my ravings. If everybody in the CP was as bold thinking as Michael Parenti, I might have joined. I don't consider

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Devine, James
where's Michael to say gentlemen, gentlemen! stop it now!? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joel Wendland Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:10 PM To:

Re: absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-08 Thread Devine, James
Concerning Marx's statement of the absolute general law of capitalist accumulation, Charles asks Does the empirical generalization suggested below have validity today nationally or globally ? Gil writes: You could certainly point to recent economic phenomena supporting an affirmative

Re: Michael Moore's Dilemma: Israel, Saudi Arabia, and John Kerry

2004-07-08 Thread Carl Remick
From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Moore's Dilemma: Israel, Saudi Arabia, and John Kerry (There are two conspicuous absences in Fahrenheit 9/11: John Kerry and Israel. The two absences are dependent on each other. Moore's electioneering really beats the stuffing out of the historical

Re: Michael Moore's Dilemma: Israel, Saudi Arabia, and John Kerry

2004-07-08 Thread Carl Remick
From: Carl Remick [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...To examine the Iraq war without mentioning the neocons and the Wolfowitz Doctrine is like, say, looking at the origins of World War I without mentioning the General General Staff ... Er, make that the German General Staff. I must have been thinking of

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread sartesian
Answer the questions: Why do you support continued US occupation of Iraq when clearly that occupation has made things worse? Are you the one who thinks things have to get worse before they get better? - Original Message - From: Joel Wendland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: Christian Parenti reporting from Falluja

2004-07-08 Thread Michael Perelman
I just got back. I am looking at this stuff in reverse order. Disgusting. Lou, I don't know what is being said to you yet, but you must stop this sort of dialogue. On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 06:42:09PM -0700, Devine, James wrote: where's Michael to say gentlemen, gentlemen! stop it now!?

my worst fear

2004-07-08 Thread Michael Perelman
I hope that no right-winger (oh please, David Shemano please be quiet about this) never happens upon the archive of this list. It would be easy to use as evidence of the left can manage anything other than a circular firing squad. This list is a place to exchange information. Hopefully people