Processology and Campbell

2003-02-08 Thread Chris Burford
http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,653313,00.html Google reveals this usage a year ago, clearly by Campbell. The idea seems to be that there is a choice of many processes and one can switch from one to another as a matter of taste or lofty overview. Chris Burford London

More recent processology

2003-02-08 Thread Chris Burford
And this as recently as Dec 9, on the official Downing Street website, no less. Asked if he would accept that the Prime Minister appeared to have breached his own Code of Conduct when buying the two flats in Bristol, the Prime Minister's Official Spokesman (PMOS) said that we had dealt with

Re: Re: British dossier sham

2003-02-08 Thread Waistline2
Here we see the issue of bodies of armed men, coming together with the issue of confused notions of justice, coming together with an ideological apparatus that informs and affects the process by which decisions are made. That is catalyzed by the technological brilliance of the internet, which

Re: another rogue state

2003-02-08 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 2/7/03 8:51:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BISMARCK, ND-The stage was set for another international showdown Monday, when chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix confirmed that the remote, isolationist state of North Dakota is in possession of a large

Re: Antagonistic and Non-Antagonistic contradictions, was Re: ...

2003-02-08 Thread Waistline2
The other day you wondered if I could theorize the difference between antagonistic and non-antagonistic contradictions. At least off hand I can't. (Incidentally, the idea is not only from Mao. In Capital Marx will speak of "antagonisms," meaning I think "antagonistic contradiction" in Mao's

Re: Re: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Bill Lear
On Friday, February 7, 2003 at 17:15:10 (-0800) Michael Perelman writes: It is [...] good [...] to clip [...] extraneous text ... Amen. Bill

Re: Re: British dossier sham

2003-02-08 Thread Paul Zarembka
There's a NYT article on it today at http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/08/international/europe/08BRIT.html and mentioned in another article. Paul *** Confronting 9-11, Ideologies of Race, and Eminent Economists, Vol. 20 RESEARCH

Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Shane Mage
I guess I must be in the loyal opposition too. I want to understand Bin Laden the better to destroy him. I don't believe anyone here regards him as a freedom fighter. In fact, I don't think bin Laden and his gang regard themselves as freedom fighters Don't get me wrong. In my opinion Bin

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: doublethink

2003-02-08 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:34468] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: doublethink Ian: Nagarjuna was arguably the first philosopher to systematically explore and *break* with the limits of the applicability of the law of non-contradiction and the implications for ontology and epistemology. me: so he ... embraces

Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread andie nachgeborenen
--- Doyle Saylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings Economists, JKS writes in a thread that is drawing all and asunder their opinion, JKS I guess I must be in the loyal opposition too. Doyle, Not me. I don't want to continue capitalism, so I'm not loyal to their wind. Don't be

incentive effects

2003-02-08 Thread Devine, James
Title: incentive effects from SLATE: Another shuttle safety piece in the [Washington] Post evolves around NASA's privatization of much of the program in the mid-1990s. The piece is pretty shallow, but it does have one important bit: NASA docks Contractors' pay when they run into

Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Doug Henwood
andie nachgeborenen wrote: Look at how the Factor talks to him, using his title, saying, You're smarter than I am., etc. In O'Reilly-land that can be an insult. Being dumb, like W, is a sign of populism. (Of course, O'Reilly did get a masters at the Kennedy School, so he's not innocent of

Voodoo economics annual report

2003-02-08 Thread Ian Murray
http://w3.access.gpo.gov/eop/ Economic Report of the President

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, JKS responds about my ironing habits, JKS, Don't be irony-impaired, Doyle. Doyle, ;-) JKS Fish would eat you and your milieu for an appetizer. Your bet's idle, though, because he wouldn't consider you worth him time. Anyone who is familiar with his writing and speaking

RE: Re: fish story

2003-02-08 Thread Marens, Richard S.
I am suggesting that (according to the transcript) O'Reilly may have been tolerant, in part, because what Fish had to say was not all that provocative. If Fish had said, say, Bush in his environmental policy shows the same disrespect for human life as Bin Laden, would he have received the same

Re: incentive effects

2003-02-08 Thread Michael Perelman
Thank you very much, Jim, for pointing out the article. Setting up an appropriate incentive system seems to have eluded most privatization schemes of which I am aware. Every economist knows about principal agent problems, but I really hear them discussed in terms of privatization. -- Michael

Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Steven McGraw
At 01:22 PM 2/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: andie nachgeborenen wrote: Look at how the Factor talks to him, using his title, saying, You're smarter than I am., etc. In O'Reilly-land that can be an insult. Being dumb, like W, is a sign of populism. (Of course, O'Reilly did get a masters at the

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Doug Henwood
Steven McGraw wrote: Plenty of public intellectuals have an equally uncomplicated view of the world Like who? Fred Barnes? Howard Zinn? Doug

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Michael Perelman
Are we really talking about views of the world or about communication styles of propagandists? On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 05:13:50PM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote: Steven McGraw wrote: Plenty of public intellectuals have an equally uncomplicated view of the world Like who? Fred Barnes? Howard

Re: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Carrol Cox
Steven McGraw wrote: Plenty of public intellectuals have an equally uncomplicated view of the world, I suspect _everyone_ has at least two views of the world, a complex view and a simpler view -- simplification coming from different sources in different people. (Everyone has a third

Donaldson of the SEC

2003-02-08 Thread Michael Perelman
The new SEC chief vowed he would get tough. True to his word, is telling the states to stop getting involved in punishing corporate evildoers. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Irradiated Beef in School Lunches

2003-02-08 Thread knowknot
On 2/1/03, Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Schlosser in his FAST FOOD NATION . . . quotes someone saying that irradiation simply allows the meat-packers to avoid dealing with the root causes of E. Coli and the like, i.e., the crowded and totally unsanitary conditions of

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Steven McGraw
At 05:13 PM 2/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: Steven McGraw wrote: Plenty of public intellectuals have an equally uncomplicated view of the world Like who? Fred Barnes? Howard Zinn? Doug In this case I'm thinking mostly of mainstream-to-liberal commentators. Don't wanna name too many names in case

processology and proctology

2003-02-08 Thread Chris Burford
At 08/02/03 06:09 -0500, Melvin wrote: Goggle's is correct: the study of the anus primarily deals with its function as an apparatus for discarding feces - shit. Let's not get caught up in a bunch of shit. On reflection I suspect that the subliminal association of 'processology' with proctology

Re: Re: Re: Irradiated Beef in School Lunches

2003-02-08 Thread Michael Perelman
Irradiation kills most of the harmful organisms, but it also changes many of the characteristics of the food itself. Nobody has studied how these altered forms affect health. On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 07:08:16PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does irradiation kill or at least render harmless

US poison factory claim

2003-02-08 Thread Chris Burford
Observer UK Sunday Feb 9 http://www.observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,892112,00.html

Propaganda firefight - first casualties

2003-02-08 Thread Chris Burford
http://www.observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,892145,00.html Details on the Coalition Information Centre and It is not that the intelligence services are necessary anti-war. Intelligence sources told The Observer this weekend that the case for war was a good one, but complex. 'People want to

From Istanbul to NY Times

2003-02-08 Thread Sabri Oncu
This comes from Marxmail. Ayse Gul Altinay, who wrote the following, is an cultural antropologist at Sabanci University. Below is a letter to NY Times criticizing their coverage of antiwar activity in Turkey. I had sent another artcile of hers from istanbul.indymedia a while ago. Quite a smart

Re: Stability question

2003-02-08 Thread Sabri Oncu
soula avramidis: Is there any state out there that is more unstable than the US at this point in history? Answer: at least the group of 77 AND China. In what sense? In the sense of Lyaponov? Best, Sabri

Turkey: A call to global action

2003-02-08 Thread Sabri Oncu
Forwarded from the Istanbul Social Forum list. The action described in the call below may sound unusual to you but there is a long history behind it. But, unfortunately, I am short of time to explain. Best, Sabri ++ THIS IS A WORLD

Irradiated Beef in School Lunches

2003-02-08 Thread Devine, James
Title: Irradiated Beef in School Lunches one problem is that some E. Coli would survive, so that a radiation-resistant would eventually develop. Also, wouldn't it make sense to simply clean up the feedlots, so that no sh*t got in our food? Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: Irradiated Beef in School Lunches

2003-02-08 Thread Michael Perelman
It would be better to clean that crap up, but the resistant strain problem would require that it get transferred back into the food chain to breed some more. I assume that feeding the animals antibiotics makes the problem far worse. On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 06:30:25PM -0800, Devine, James wrote:

processology redux

2003-02-08 Thread Ian Murray
First casualties in the propaganda firefight All's fair in the war for hearts and minds: frustrated by the failure of the UN weapons inspectors in Iraq to find the 'smoking gun', Downing Street resorted to plagiarising a 12-year-old US doctoral thesis Gaby Hinsliff, Martin Bright, Peter Beaumont

Speaker Wanted

2003-02-08 Thread Drewk
I am teaching a course on Marx's _Capital_, Vols. II and III at the Brecht Forum in New York City. Although most of the sessions are strictly on the texts, a couple will be devoted to Critiques and Defenses of Marx. To make things fair, balanced, evenhanded, I am interested in conducting such

Kucinich vs. Powell

2003-02-08 Thread michael perelman
I just got this from Bob McChesney. Could this be the opening shot in D.K.'s presidential campaign. To Doug H., maybe he should be your next guest. I have just been notified that Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (Dem., Ohio) will appear on the George Stephanopolus Sunday morning TV show opposite Colin

Re: Speaker Wanted

2003-02-08 Thread Sabri Oncu
Andrew : (1) Marx's account of the transformation of values into production prices has been proven to be internally inconsistent or in error. SNIP I am looking for someone willing to argue *in favor* of one or both of these propositions. I will be arguing against them. How about this?

Re: Re: Speaker Wanted

2003-02-08 Thread andie nachgeborenen
We need to start thinking about what we mean by "science" beforeit is too late! If you want to know what I mean, just go to auniversity library near you. You will see that the number ofbooks and journals, "scientific" or otherwise, are growingexponentially, like a cancer. anyone know or remember

oil management

2003-02-08 Thread Ian Murray
washingtonpost.com How Will We Manage the Oil? By Michael J. Economides Sunday, February 9, 2003; Page B07 Whoever conquers a free town and does not demolish it commits a great error and may expect to be ruined himself. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince, 1513 With war against Iraq now almost