Re: Dubya and farcical Keynesianism

2003-08-28 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Thanks for the comment, Shane... You seem to have forgotten that the Keynesian and [neo]classical views are totally incompatible I think you are correct, in the 1930s depression Keynes was faced precisely with the problem of mobilising capital for employment-generating investment, but, I would

Re: Dubya and farcical Keynesianism

2003-08-28 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Jim, At this point, I don't think military Keynesianism is a big thing. It's hardly enough to cancel out all the cut-backs by the states. But Iraq War II may become a full-scale quagmire... I saw figures suggesting military expenditure in the vicinity of 500 billion (?) but that would be over a

Dubya and farcical Keynesianism

2003-08-27 Thread Eubulides
The deficit habit Bush's high-spend, low-tax strategy is thoroughly Keynesian. However, he will be heading for trouble if he does not change course when the economy picks up, writes Mark Tran Wednesday August 27, 2003 The Guardian There is a case for the Bush administration running up huge

Re: Dubya and farcical Keynesianism

2003-08-27 Thread Devine, James
: Eubulides [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L] Dubya and farcical Keynesianism The deficit habit Bush's high-spend, low-tax strategy is thoroughly Keynesian. However, he will be heading for trouble if he does

Re: Dubya and farcical Keynesianism

2003-08-27 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
In these terms, the Bush program is an extremely inefficient investment project. The money isn't going for investment projects. It's mostly going to give money to the rich, which does not have as big an impact on demand. Or its going to the military, which doesn't help the supply side of the

Re: Dubya and farcical Keynesianism

2003-08-27 Thread Shane Mage
Jurriaan wrote: As a Phd student, I really got the impression that really neoclassical economic models boil down to a zero-sum trade-off between saving and consumption, where saving is tacitly treated as automatically implying investment. This is suggested by Keynes's formulas as well. Thus, what

Re: Dubya and farcical Keynesianism

2003-08-27 Thread Devine, James
Of course the rich could theoretically invest in expanding production, but then they would need a motivation to do so. What would motivate them to invest in cumulative production growth, in an economy running at 75 percent of installed productive capacity and relatively stagnant