Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-12 Thread Keaney Michael
Brad DeLong wrote: I'm not Senator Albert Beveridge. I don't agree with Senator Albert Beveridge. Why are you claiming that I do? I'm not saying that at all. I think your arguments would hold more water if some of your righteous indignation were directed at U.S. government officials who are

Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-11 Thread Keaney Michael
Brad DeLong wrote: On the one hand, trees and hills. On the other hand, people. On what theory of political justice can the first ever trump the second? Well, Senator Albert Beveridge seemed to have a fairly firm grasp of one such. I guess it depends on which people you are addressing.

Re: Re: Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-11 Thread JKSCHW
What does geography suggest that Alsace-Lorraine is part of, France or Germany? Or more to the point today, East Jerusalem? --jks In a message dated Mon, 11 Sep 2000 1:43:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Brad DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For what they are worth, my views on the Malvinas are

Re: Re: Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1484] Re: Imperialist progressivism (was R, el 8 Sep 00, a las 9:16, Michael Perelman dijo: The debate on the Falklands/Malvinas is troubling. I thought the outcome meant that Thatcher triumphed politically, while the junta had to face political defeat, eventually.

Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Not only Brad DeLong but also Mike Kearney. OK, politics is a long exercise in patience... As Toussaint Louverture said: "La France entiére vient contre nous!" Will answer to just two basic assertions here, which are the only ones that matter. As to condemnation of "militarism", won't return

Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-08 Thread Keaney Michael
Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote: I reserve to my own people the right to resort to military means (or any other) to put an end to this abject era of imperialist exaction and social crime that Argentina is passing through since 1975 at least.. Fair enough. I am surprised, however, by your

Re: Re: Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1459] Re: Imperialist progressivism (was R, el 8 Sep 00, a las 4:46, Brad De Long dijo: So Galtieri's strategy would have worked: the domestic opposition on the left would have forgotten his crimes and thrown their support behind his regime--if only he had won his

Re: Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Dear Michael Kearney, I apologize for my harshness on you. It is evident that you are interested in discussion, not in deploying your wisdom on me as Brad does. So that excuse me if, for the time being, I cannot answer to your posting (by the way, I am afraid that we are getting too far away