Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-26 Thread Jim Devine
Barkley wrote: ... nobody should be under any illusions whatsoever. The Bush administration is turning out to be far far worse than anybody forecast and certainly far worse than a Gore administration would have been. And it will negatively impact many people in the rest of the world, I am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-26 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
- From: "Jim Devine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: [PEN-L:9528] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc. Barkley wrote: ... nobody should be under any illusions whatsoever. The Bush administration is turning out to be far fa

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-26 Thread Jim Devine
At 12:45 PM 3/26/01 -0500, you wrote: They could overdo it. But, most people do not even know what they are doing. It is a successful stealth campaign so far. yeah, but I'm trying to intuit future trends. As for North Korea, they are probably right that the DPRK will not outright

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-26 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc. At 12:45 PM 3/26/01 -0500, you wrote: They could overdo it. But, most people do not even know what they are doing. It is a successful stealth campaign so far. yeah, but I'm trying to intuit future trends. As for North Korea, they are prob

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-25 Thread Mark Laffey
What evidence is there that Nader voters were in fact potential Gore voters? That is, is there any data to show that had Nader not been an option, the people who voted for him would have voted for Gore? Surely that is the correct question to ask. Nader voters may simply have stayed at home

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-25 Thread Justin Schwartz
Hey, Mark, don't bother. The Demicans can't face up to the fact that they lost because they ran like Repugs, as well as running a generally sorry, suckass candidate who blew what should have been a sure thing, and they are deeply resentful because they think they own the votes of the left.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-25 Thread Brad DeLong
But the idea that the left cannot be taken for granted is profoundly frightening to Dems. And profoundly heart-gladdening for Republicans. The idea that we might be able to exercise real power is absolutely terrifying. If we are to put together a winning party, it means taking votes from

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-25 Thread Doug Henwood
Mark Laffey wrote: What evidence is there that Nader voters were in fact potential Gore voters? That is, is there any data to show that had Nader not been an option, the people who voted for him would have voted for Gore? Surely that is the correct question to ask. Nader voters may simply have

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-25 Thread Stephen E Philion
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Doug Henwood wrote: Mark Laffey wrote: What evidence is there that Nader voters were in fact potential Gore voters? That is, is there any data to show that had Nader not been an option, the people who voted for him would have voted for Gore? Surely that is the

Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-25 Thread phillp2
Yea Doug, a typical American reply. It ain't us, it is all you foreigners. I am no apologist for Canadian domestic and foreign policy, indeed I have a reputation for the opposite as you might surmise, but I would remind Doug that all these legislative measures were taken as a result of

Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-25 Thread phillp2
Doug, This is repugnant. You have never heard me defending Canadian policy on this list. Furthermore, if you knew what I have been doing, I have been crossing the country speaking and denouncing Canadian policy in this area. Paul Phillips Date sent: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:47:23

Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-25 Thread phillp2
Doug writes, A couple of more questions occurred to me while I was in the shower. Do the 32 million members of the U.S. working class who live in officially defined poverty deserve their fate? Or worse? How about the 20-30 million more who live close to poverty? How about the - I'm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-25 Thread Stephen E Philion
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea Doug, a typical American reply. It ain't us, it is all you foreigners. Hold it, now where did Doug say that? Not even close.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-25 Thread Stephen E Philion
Yes, but in your reply to Doug's transparently sarcastic remark on Candaian innocence, you seem to be taking Doug as an ardent defender of US foreign policy... Doug's displeasure, if I'm reading it correctly, is with the idea that wishing any working class any kind of economic decline is not a

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-25 Thread Andrew Hagen
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:44:52 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Canadians are responsible for this? Get a life Doug. What the collapse of the American economy will do is discredit American imperialism through the rest of the world thereby improving the long run prospects of the rest of the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-25 Thread Ken Hanly
-L:9465] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc. Yes, but in your reply to Doug's transparently sarcastic remark on Candaian innocence, you seem to be taking Doug as an ardent defender of US foreign policy... Doug's displeasure, if I'm reading it correctly, is with the idea that wishing any

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-24 Thread Brad DeLong
Brad DeLong wrote: Yet another blessing we have received from Ralph Nader... No, from Al Gore. If as many self-identified Democrats had voted for Gore as self-identified Republicans voted for Bush, W would still be governor of Texas. Doug And Nader was in their pitching, telling

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-24 Thread Brad DeLong
And Nader was in their pitching, telling self-identified Democrats not to vote for Gore... Brad DeLong As was 'Dubya; welcome to the world of free speech. Ian Except that Dubya is opposed to ergonomic rules. Nader is supposed to like them--but he likes being a publicity

RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-24 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Except that Dubya is opposed to ergonomic rules. Nader is supposed to like them--but he likes being a publicity hound more... Brad DeLong * Apologies, Michael. Brad, grow up. Your Ivy League edumakation is showing. Ian

RE: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-23 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
And Nader was in their pitching, telling self-identified Democrats not to vote for Gore... Brad DeLong As was 'Dubya; welcome to the world of free speech. Ian

Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-23 Thread Shane Mage
Brad DeLong wrote: Yet another blessing we have received from Ralph Nader... No, from Al Gore. If as many self-identified Democrats had voted for Gore as self-identified Republicans voted for Bush, W would still be governor of Texas. Doug And Nader was in their pitching, telling

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ergonomics, etc.

2001-03-23 Thread Jim Devine
Shane Mage wrote: Is it Nader's fault that the Gore-Clinton administration delayed, obviously with intention, the promulgation of regulations vitally important to working people, until their concessionary though fraudulent successor could undo them with a stroke of the pen? no. Further, it's