Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-21 Thread Carrol Cox
Eubulides wrote: A couple of years ago I saw Greenspan on CSPAN mention the words long term equilibrium path... I broke out in laughter before he finished. As if he could know what the political-economy-ecology will be like in 2007. As long as capitalist social relations and political power

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-21 Thread Carrol Cox
Eubulides wrote: - Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] No. No. No. Ask any grad student in economics. The death of a bazillion cuts occurs in grad school. Once you return to life, you are a hardened economist who has invested years in learing that

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-21 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
For example -- I simply cannot conceive of any socialist regime coming to power (or any anarchist-workers regime) _except_ after titanic convulsions which more or less destroyed the even temper of life in America as we know it. I agree, this is a therapeutic problem that one frequently

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-21 Thread Eugene Coyle
I sometimes wonder about how a few economists, exposed to neo-classical in grad school, are able to break free. Is it a political preparation of some sort, before grad school? Something learned at a mother's knee? A disinterest in a career? One conclusion: People interested in the economy,

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-21 Thread joanna bujes
Carrol Cox wrote: Overwhelmingly, the attraction of left theory in general (or of marxist theory in particular) is that it appears first to a person as a way of making sense of activity in which they find themselves caught up. One backs into left theory as it were rather than walks into it

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-20 Thread Sabri Oncu
From the article Ian sent: Modern Investment Management is subtitled An Equilibrium Approach. The central premise embedded within Goldman's analysis is that the economic world is always either at an equilibrium which reflects all knowledge at that point or is being inexorably drawn to an

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-20 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] I find it difficult to believe that Bob Litterman at Goldman Sachs Asset Management really believes in the above. He is not only very smart but also very well educated. For example, I don't think, among _many_ other things, that he

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-20 Thread Sabri Oncu
Ian: Isn't it Robert Lucas' contention that the economy is always in equilibrium? I don't know but saying what the author of the article you sent says is same as saying that any physical motion is in dynamic equilibrium: For me, the investment world is constantly in equilibrium - but it is

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-20 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] A dynamic equilibrium can be a constantly moving, instantaneously morphing equilibrium but it does not mean that all motions that are close to it will fluctuate about it. It depends on whether the equilibrium is stable or not. If

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-20 Thread Michael Perelman
No. No. No. Ask any grad student in economics. The death of a bazillion cuts occurs in grad school. Once you return to life, you are a hardened economist who has invested years in learing that stuff. Throwing it away is a painful confession. On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 08:11:49PM -0700, Eubulides

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-20 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] No. No. No. Ask any grad student in economics. The death of a bazillion cuts occurs in grad school. Once you return to life, you are a hardened economist who has invested years in learing that stuff. Throwing it away

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-20 Thread Michael Perelman
I got my job in 1971. A 25 year old clone of Michael Perelman would have a hard time getting a job today, except for the few small liberal arts colleges that would hire a lefy economist today. As a result, all of the old lefty programs seem to be becoming more conventional or extinct, possibly

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-20 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got my job in 1971. A 25 year old clone of Michael Perelman would have a hard time getting a job today, except for the few small liberal arts colleges that would hire a lefy economist today. As a result, all of the

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-20 Thread Michael Perelman
I am too out of touch to say. Some years ago, a survey found great dissatisfaction among grad students. On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:17:56PM -0700, Eubulides wrote: Ok. But how much of this is due to the pacification of students due the current education system before they get to grad school

Re: nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-20 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] nostalgia for equilibrium I am too out of touch to say. Some years ago, a survey found great dissatisfaction among grad students

nostalgia for equilibrium

2003-09-19 Thread Eubulides
Equilibrium in Goldman's equations Edmond Warner Saturday September 20, 2003 The Guardian Goldman Sachs, perhaps the most venerable of investment banks, could never be accused of doing anything by halves. Now, it has even taken vanity publishing to a qualitative and quantitative extreme. The