[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-03-13 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexico
   ||n-1.00-14.el7
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed|2018-02-19 13:36:49 |2018-03-13 13:06:30



--- Comment #20 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon-1.00-14.el7 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 7
stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this
bug report.

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-20 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|CLOSED  |ON_QA
 Resolution|NOTABUG |---



--- Comment #19 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon-1.00-14.el7 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 7
testing repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this
bug report.
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for
instructions on how to install test updates.
You can provide feedback for this update here:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2018-3b856ae7a7

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721



--- Comment #18 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon-1.00-14.el7 has been submitted as an update to
Fedora EPEL 7.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2018-3b856ae7a7

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721



--- Comment #17 from Matthew Miller  ---
Thank you, Ralf!

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721

Ralf Corsepius  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
  Flags|needinfo?(rc040203@freenet. |
   |de) |
Last Closed|2018-02-07 00:18:21 |2018-02-19 13:36:49



--- Comment #16 from Ralf Corsepius  ---
Done. I added eseyman and eclispeo to perl-Text-Haml.

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721

Robert-André Mauchin  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Flags||needinfo?(rc040203@freenet.
   ||de)



--- Comment #15 from Robert-André Mauchin  ---
(In reply to Robert-André Mauchin from comment #14)
> (In reply to Ralf Corsepius from comment #13)
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Thanks for adding me and eseyman to perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon but you
> forgot to do the same for perl-Text-Haml, which is a dependency needed to
> build perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon, as I requsted in commment #11.
> 
> Best regards,

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-16 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721



--- Comment #14 from Robert-André Mauchin  ---
(In reply to Ralf Corsepius from comment #13)

Hello,

Thanks for adding me and eseyman to perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon but you forgot
to do the same for perl-Text-Haml, which is a dependency needed to build
perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon, as I requsted in commment #11.

Best regards,

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-13 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721



--- Comment #10 from Ralf Corsepius  ---
(In reply to Matthew Miller from comment #9)
> I agree -- Ralf, this is by no means an acceptable way to act towards new
> people in Fedora, and your comments about "noobs" are way off base.
Matthew, please note that I did not accuse Robert-André in person.

I was talking about a general tendency in Fedora, I consider not to be helpful.

To me, Robert-André is a complete unknown, I've never heard of before who
popped out of blue sky, despite I am monitoring almost everything esp. related
to perl-packaging in Fedora, ever since Fedora exists.

That said, Robert-André, please take my appologies, I did not mean to offend
you by any means.

> Robert-André is a member of the packaging group in good standing. Please add
> him as a committer so that he can work on the EPEL packages.
No idea, how to do this.

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon/
leaves me completely clueless.

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-13 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721



--- Comment #13 from Ralf Corsepius  ---
(In reply to Matthew Miller from comment #12)
> This probably is not the proper forum for hashing out whatever "general
> tendency" you're talking about,
Agreed, this is not the appropriate forum.

> but no matter what that is, it's important
> for all Fedora contributors to be welcoming to new users — and people in
> leadership positions in Fedora packaging need to hold themselves to the
> highest standard in that regard.
That's a point, I do not agree with and have never agreed with. Fedora should
be selective about the technical skills of its contributors and accept not
"everybody".

> The problem with "My actual point is I do not want Fedora to be furtherly
> run down by noobs." is not that someone might be offended, but that it is
> discouraging to new people in  Fedora. Especially in conjunction with
> refusing a request, that gives the distinct impression that Fedora does not
> welcome new contributors.
> 
> Fedora is a big project and it's incredibly likely that there will be people
> we don't recognize. It's best to assume good intentions.
Put yourself into my position: A person, which has been completely unknown to
me dropped out of the blue and requested an EPEL7 branch. Something many people
have done before. Many of them "hit the wall", when they realized that this is
not a easy task. Actually, this is the reason why EPEL - esp. wrt. perl modules
- is far behind Fedora (with all consequences: insecure, broken, outdated)

Another problem related to this: Unlike pkgdb, pagure lacks the concept of
per-branch maintainers. This means to grant the person full access of the
package.

> On the technical side:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/
> WhatHappenedToPkgdb#How_do_I_give_a_user_commit_access_to_a_dist-git_repo.3F
Sigh. This is a parent page of what left me clueless above. You actually only
understand it when you already know it.

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721



--- Comment #12 from Matthew Miller  ---
This probably is not the proper forum for hashing out whatever "general
tendency" you're talking about, but no matter what that is, it's important for
all Fedora contributors to be welcoming to new users — and people in leadership
positions in Fedora packaging need to hold themselves to the highest standard
in that regard.

The problem with "My actual point is I do not want Fedora to be furtherly run
down by noobs." is not that someone might be offended, but that it is
discouraging to new people in  Fedora. Especially in conjunction with refusing
a request, that gives the distinct impression that Fedora does not welcome new
contributors.

Fedora is a big project and it's incredibly likely that there will be people we
don't recognize. It's best to assume good intentions.


On the technical side:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/WhatHappenedToPkgdb#How_do_I_give_a_user_commit_access_to_a_dist-git_repo.3F

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721



--- Comment #11 from Robert-André Mauchin  ---
(In reply to Ralf Corsepius from comment #10)
> (In reply to Matthew Miller from comment #9)
> > I agree -- Ralf, this is by no means an acceptable way to act towards new
> > people in Fedora, and your comments about "noobs" are way off base.
> Matthew, please note that I did not accuse Robert-André in person.
> 
> I was talking about a general tendency in Fedora, I consider not to be
> helpful.
> 
> To me, Robert-André is a complete unknown, I've never heard of before who
> popped out of blue sky, despite I am monitoring almost everything esp.
> related to perl-packaging in Fedora, ever since Fedora exists.
> 
> That said, Robert-André, please take my appologies, I did not mean to offend
> you by any means.
> 
I understand you were talking in general.

> > Robert-André is a member of the packaging group in good standing. Please add
> > him as a committer so that he can work on the EPEL packages.
> No idea, how to do this.
> 
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon/
> leaves me completely clueless.

It's In Settings, then scroll down to Users and Group:

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Text-Haml/settings

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon/settings

For both packages, Add user "eseyman" Permissions "Commit" and Add user
"eclipseo" Permissions "Commit"

Thanks.

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721

Matthew Miller  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|CLOSED  |ASSIGNED
 CC||mat...@redhat.com
 Resolution|NOTABUG |---
   Keywords||Reopened



--- Comment #9 from Matthew Miller  ---
I agree -- Ralf, this is by no means an acceptable way to act towards new
people in Fedora, and your comments about "noobs" are way off base.
Robert-André is a member of the packaging group in good standing. Please add
him as a committer so that he can work on the EPEL packages. A sincere apology
is also in order.

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721



--- Comment #8 from Robert-André Mauchin  ---
I understand you believe EPEL is unmaintainable and to a certain extent I
agree, but we're talking about two simple Perl packages, it's not exactly
rocket science to keep them in good shape, there is no dependency nightmare to
take care off unlike other packages.

I may be relatively new to Fedora but I've reviewed over 1,000 packages these
past six months, and with eseyman help, there's not much risk.

Please reconsider you position, there's nothing to be afraid of for your Fedora
branches since we'll only touch EPEL7, add eseyman and eclipseo commit access
in Pagure.

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721

Nick Bebout  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||n...@fedoraproject.org



--- Comment #7 from Nick Bebout  ---
Ralf, please read https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html.en  I don't
believe your conduct is in accordance with the Fedora Code of Conduct.  We want
to encourage new contributors.

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-11 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721



--- Comment #6 from Ralf Corsepius  ---
(In reply to Emmanuel Seyman from comment #5)
> (In reply to Ralf Corsepius from comment #3)
> >
> > I don't know you and have never heard about you before.
> 
> If it makes you feel better, I'll be happy to co-maintain the EPEL branch
> with Robert-André. 

That's not my point. My actual point is I do not want Fedora to be furtherly
run 
down by noobs. Something which I feel is self-explanatory in case people
requesting EPEL packages: They are unmaintainable, by definition.

> > That said, feel free to take the EPEL branch, but I am not interested in
> > having you as co-maintainer for Fedora.
> 
> Per-branch ACLs no longer exist.
Read what I wrote above - Incompetent noobs everywhere in Fedora.

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-11 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721

Emmanuel Seyman  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||emman...@seyman.fr



--- Comment #5 from Emmanuel Seyman  ---
(In reply to Ralf Corsepius from comment #3)
>
> I don't know you and have never heard about you before.

If it makes you feel better, I'll be happy to co-maintain the EPEL branch with
Robert-André. 

> That said, feel free to take the EPEL branch, but I am not interested in
> having you as co-maintainer for Fedora.

Per-branch ACLs no longer exist.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/WhatHappenedToPkgdb#How_do_I_give_a_user_commit_access_to_a_dist-git_repo.3F

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-07 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721



--- Comment #2 from Robert-André Mauchin  ---
Would you consider adding me as a co-maintainer so I can mairtain EPEL7 version
for perl(Text::Haml) and perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon? My FAS is eclipseo.

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[Bug 1542721] Please provide a package for EPEL7

2018-02-06 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1542721

Ralf Corsepius  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
Last Closed||2018-02-07 00:18:21



--- Comment #1 from Ralf Corsepius  ---
To cut a long story short: I do not use nor support EPEL, because I consider
packager in EPEL to be unmaintainable.

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