On Wednesday 05 July 2006 23:02, Shlomi Fish n wrote:
> I don't see using the X11 licence for my software as anti-social. Like I
> said, anyone can easily fork it as a software of a different licence.
Supposing you actually find a mentee and TPF actually does fund this project
and this code is s
On 7/1/06, Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As my flight is delayed I'll try to make a stab at posting up the basic design.
The whole point of replacing the Perl QA wiki was to have a public
place for the TAP::Harness design to live. :)
http://perl-qa.yi.org/index.php/TAP::Harness
On Thursday 06 July 2006 00:36, Jonathan T. Rockway wrote:
> Two comments, pretty much agreeing with chromatic and Ricardo:
>
> 1) How would this proposed module benefit the perl community? Why
> can't you fix things in Test::Harness and send the patch in? If you fix
> deployed modules, everyone
On 2/9/06, Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This works:
yes, excellent randy. thanks for that. it still seems a little hackish but
that's ok - hackish works for me if it means I can do what I want and nobody
else needs to do extra work :)
I made some tweaks to your format and added
> > no_index/dir 13
> > no_index/directory 1397
> > private/directory40
> As for "dir", I'm three of the 13,
I'm another three of the 13, and I'll switch to 'directory' as of the
next upload.
-- Johan
Andreas J. Koenig wrote:
The page is there, http://thepierianspring.org/perl/meta/, but does
not provide direct statistics so I made up my own.
no_index/dir 13
no_index/directory 1397
private/directory40
David's D/DA/DAGOLDEN/Perl-Dist-Vanilla-5 used both dir and directo
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 21:39:06 -0500, Ken Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Jul 5, 2006, at 7:47 PM, David Golden wrote:
>> Some potential options:
>>
>> (a) Add "directory" as a synonym to the spec and add "dir" as
>> something that CPAN sites recognize.
>>
>> (b) Change the s
On Jul 5, 2006, at 7:47 PM, David Golden wrote:
Some potential options:
(a) Add "directory" as a synonym to the spec and add "dir" as
something that CPAN sites recognize.
(b) Change the spec to "directory" -- if CPAN sites are the only
real user of META.yml no_index, then the pain should
On 7/5/06, Jonathan T. Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
1) How would this proposed module benefit the perl community? Why
can't you fix things in Test::Harness and send the patch in? If you fix
deployed modules, everyone wins. If you write your own module, it sits
on CPAN unused.
What exac
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks to Tyler MacDonald and yi.org we now have a brand spanking new
> wiki! http://perl-qa.yi.org/ is its location, we'll worry about
> getting more official domains later.
Since I set up my own server for (then nx, now yi).org 8 years ago
Thanks to Tyler MacDonald and yi.org we now have a brand spanking new
wiki! http://perl-qa.yi.org/ is its location, we'll worry about
getting more official domains later.
Its a wiki. Go nuts. Err on the side of editing rather than doing
nothing. Not sure if something should go on the wiki? P
> It adds a dependency on a binary application (gpg) that users have to
> install by hand, doesn't check for the presence of it properly, and if
> you don't have it, installs an enormous chain of dependencies, with said
> deps having some major issues of their own.
>
> It's become bad enough that
Randy W. Sims wrote:
I don't know much about SocialText. Is there a converter, so that if you
put something up temporarily in MediaWiki, it can later be converted and
moved to SocialText?
I know there are a whole series of HTML::WikiConverter dialects on CPAN.
I haven't used it, but it seems
To the Illuminated Masters of CPAN and META.yml:
Apparently, my upload of Perl::Dist::Vanilla spuriously indexed
directories that I thought I had listed as "no_index".
On examination, it appears that the META.yml spec says to use a "dir"
entry under "no_index" whereas PAUSE/CPAN/search.cpan.o
Michael G Schwern wrote:
On 7/5/06, Jonathan T. Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The thing about using MediaWiki is that it's not written in Perl. Not
that PHP is bad (ok, yes it is bad...), but doesn't it send some sort of
negative message when Perl QA doesn't use a Perl-based Wiki?
Do I w
Define "some" please :)
Ricardo has said he is, for example.
And, "improve compatibility" - with broken systems? OMG. :)
You mean we now don't sign packages anymore just because someone isn't
able to check the signature?
The right way is to tell the user to fix their borken system, not to
On Jul 5, 2006, at 5:26 PM, chromatic wrote:
If you
cannot or will not work with the community, don't be surprised when
the
community has little interest in working with you.
Please also LISTEN to what we're saying. A thread w/Shlomi typically
has responses from Shlomi that rebut the co
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> You win! Set it up. Let us know when its online. We'll worry about
> >> getting a proper domain/uri for it later.
> >
> >Done! http://qa.yi.org/
>
> Thanks!
>
> Could you switch that to perl-qa.yi.org? Just to make it clear this
> isn't yi.org
On 7/5/06, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/5/06, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I'd be happy to. yi.org is already running a few mediawikis, as well as
> >cpants.perl.org. Let me know and I'll get it set up.
>
> You win
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 15:02, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Test::Run is licence-compatible with the core.
I do not think those words mean what you think they mean.
> Some of Test::Run is
> licensed under the GPL and Artistic (version 1.0) licence which is the
> licence of the perl 5 core. The other
On 7/5/06, Jonathan T. Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The thing about using MediaWiki is that it's not written in Perl. Not
that PHP is bad (ok, yes it is bad...), but doesn't it send some sort of
negative message when Perl QA doesn't use a Perl-based Wiki?
Do I worry that qa.perl.org is r
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 23:55, chromatic wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 July 2006 12:28, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > I'd like to suggest a generic proposal for the Perl Foundation Grants.
> > Note that I'm not going to take it myself, because I just started a new
> > job and would like to commit to it. Howe
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 23:51, Ricardo SIGNES wrote:
> * Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-05T15:28:28]
>
> > The grant is about Test::Run, which is a fork of Test::Harness that aims
> > to greatly refactor and modularise it. I've already revamped and
> > re-written a lot of code for it, b
I'd prefer MediaWiki (that which
Wikipedia uses).
I'm working on making Socialtext open source right now. I plan to
put up a wiki based on it very soon.
This sounds like the best idea.
The thing about using MediaWiki is that it's not written in Perl. Not
that PHP is bad (ok, yes it is
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/5/06, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I'd be happy to. yi.org is already running a few mediawikis, as well as
> >cpants.perl.org. Let me know and I'll get it set up.
>
> You win! Set it up. Let us know when its online. We'll worr
Two comments, pretty much agreeing with chromatic and Ricardo:
1) How would this proposed module benefit the perl community? Why
can't you fix things in Test::Harness and send the patch in? If you fix
deployed modules, everyone wins. If you write your own module, it sits
on CPAN unused.
On 7/5/06, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'd be happy to. yi.org is already running a few mediawikis, as well as
cpants.perl.org. Let me know and I'll get it set up.
You win! Set it up. Let us know when its online. We'll worry about
getting a proper domain/uri for it later.
On Jul 5, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote:
We need a new wiki. schwern.org is too anemic to run anything serious
(64 megs of RAM, woo!). We need a volunteer with server space to
setup and maintain the Perl QA Wiki. I'd prefer MediaWiki (that which
Wikipedia uses). It seems the bes
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> These TAP extension proposals and designs for parsers and questions
> for details about the TAP grammar... they should all go into the Wiki.
> But the Perl QA Wiki sucks. Its slow. Its spammed. UseModWiki
> sucks. And I don't have the time to maint
These TAP extension proposals and designs for parsers and questions
for details about the TAP grammar... they should all go into the Wiki.
But the Perl QA Wiki sucks. Its slow. Its spammed. UseModWiki
sucks. And I don't have the time to maintain it.
We need a new wiki. schwern.org is too ane
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 14:04, Andy Lester wrote:
> On Jul 5, 2006, at 3:55 PM, chromatic wrote:
> > You want TPF to pay some unspecifed and unidentified other person
> > to continue a fork of a core module that can't ever replace the core
> > module because of its licensing?
> But at least he
On Jul 5, 2006, at 3:55 PM, chromatic wrote:
You want TPF to pay some unspecifed and unidentified other person
to continue
a fork of a core module that can't ever replace the core module
because of
its licensing?
But at least he'll act as mentor.
--
Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => ww
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 12:28, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> I'd like to suggest a generic proposal for the Perl Foundation Grants. Note
> that I'm not going to take it myself, because I just started a new job and
> would like to commit to it. However, I can be the mentor for this grant.
> I'm posting it
* Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-05T15:28:28]
> The grant is about Test::Run, which is a fork of Test::Harness that aims to
> greatly refactor and modularise it. I've already revamped and re-written a
> lot of code for it, but there's still a lot that needs to be done.
[...]
> Some o
On Jul 3, 2006, at 6:33 PM, chromatic wrote:
On Monday 03 July 2006 09:01, Jonathan T. Rockway wrote:
That said, I would be interested. I'm still trying to page all the
perl6/parrot grammars (PGE, TGE, etc.) into my brain, so any
additional
examples would helpful, interesting, and fun. Fo
Hi all!
I'd like to suggest a generic proposal for the Perl Foundation Grants. Note
that I'm not going to take it myself, because I just started a new job and
would like to commit to it. However, I can be the mentor for this grant. I'm
posting it here to get some reactions before I put it in my
Moin,
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 17:56, David Golden wrote:
> Randy J. Ray wrote:
> > I'm a fairly-recent addition to the list. I've read a good part of
> > the
>
> Welcome!
>
> > Secondly, having recently added digital-signing to a few of my
> > modules, perhaps the presence of a SIGNATURE file mi
Randy J. Ray wrote:
I'm a fairly-recent addition to the list. I've read a good part of the
Welcome!
Secondly, having recently added digital-signing to a few of my modules,
perhaps the presence of a SIGNATURE file might be a Kwalitee marker (with
the caveat that it should be an actual Module::
Geoffrey Young wrote:
> I've mentioned the idea of making it simple to use
> plan() and Test::More functions before
blarg... insert "separately" ^ here. all the rest is pretty simple
already :)
--Geoff
sorry for dropping in on this late, but it was a holiday weekend :)
> * How can I help?
>
> Provide use cases, what would you want to do with Test::Harness if you
> could? What are you doing with Straps? What features do other
> testing systems (JUnit, for example) have that you'd like to see i
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