new module, Pod::Coverage::TrustPod

2008-03-26 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
After having this task languish in my todo for years, at least, I have finally reduced my goal to the important 90% and applied some JFDI. Pod::Coverage::TrustPod acts like Pod::Coverage::CountParents, but accepts non-whitespace lines inside "Pod::Coverage" POD targets as "trustme" instructions.

Server and database testing

2008-03-26 Thread Michael G Schwern
I have some work to write tests for a server that talks to a database. This means creating a database and firing up a server for testing purposes, and then dropping the database and shutting down the server at the end. This also means making sure that multiple instances of the test can run on

Re: model-based testing

2008-03-26 Thread Michael G Schwern
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi *, are there any Perl modules for model-based testing [1]? Are there any talks about model-based testing with Perl? Cheers, Renee [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-based_testing Never heard of it. It smells a little bit like a further extension of FIT testi

TODO: Registering for the Oslo QA Hackathon

2008-03-26 Thread Salve J Nilsen
Hey, guys! Just want to remind you to register for the QA hackathon in good time before the event. It you intend to show up, of course. :) http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Oslo_QA_Hackathon_2008_:_Topics 1. Add your name and some words about yourself (including contact info if yo

Re: Hackathon logistics

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Salve J Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael G Schwern said: > > > David Golden wrote: > >> > >> I'm curious to try git, if anyone is up for teaching it. > > > > > I had the same thoughts. My concern is that we'll be spending time > > futzing with git ra

Re: Hackathon logistics

2008-03-26 Thread Salve J Nilsen
Michael G Schwern said: David Golden wrote: I'm curious to try git, if anyone is up for teaching it. I had the same thoughts. My concern is that we'll be spending time futzing with git rather than hacking on QA stuff. I approve of this message. On a related note, do we (the hackathon att

Re: Hackathon logistics

2008-03-26 Thread Salve J Nilsen
Gabor Szabo said: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Salve J Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *) Whiteboards, markers & erasers. > > Lots of whiteboards for taking notes. At least one whiteboard just > for projects being worked on, the "grid" at BarCamps is an example. We'll have at least 5

Test::Harness wishlist: trap $SIG{INT}

2008-03-26 Thread David Golden
For Oslo or whenever, I'd like to see Test::Harness trap $SIG{INT} when running test files. On Win32, CTRL-C at the console hits every process on it, so killing a hung process kills the harness, too. I'd prefer to see the harness trap CTRL-C, check for subprocess exiting with an error and do an o

Re: Hackathon logistics

2008-03-26 Thread James E Keenan
Michael G Schwern wrote: My concern is that we'll be spending time futzing with git rather than hacking on QA stuff. We all know SVN/SVK and can stand to use it for a little while longer. Agreed. One hackathon I attended wasted one-third of the participants' available time because ever

Re: Hackathon logistics

2008-03-26 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
* Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-26T04:15:47] >> Not trying to cause repo-wars, but I think I'll need to use git >> actively for something before I really start to grok it. > > I had the same thoughts. My concern is that we'll be spending time futzing > with git rather than hackin

Re: Nested TAP at Oslo?

2008-03-26 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 26 Mar 2008, at 11:13, Fergal Daly wrote: I'm +1 on that. It's not too hard to add nested blocks to the parser - in fact I've already done that experimentally. I got stuck on the API design around how we represent nested results without overcomplicating the existing parser interface. That

Re: Nested TAP at Oslo?

2008-03-26 Thread Fergal Daly
On 26/03/2008, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 25 Mar 2008, at 18:31, Ovid wrote: > > Is there any chance we can produce something viable in Oslo that's > > likely to solve this problem or is this a low enough priority in most > > people's minds that they're not bothered? I'm kee

Re: Nested TAP at Oslo?

2008-03-26 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 25 Mar 2008, at 18:31, Ovid wrote: Is there any chance we can produce something viable in Oslo that's likely to solve this problem or is this a low enough priority in most people's minds that they're not bothered? I'm keenly focused on managing large-scale test suites and need stuff like this

Topics in Oslo

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On the Topics page http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Oslo_QA_Hackathon_2008_Topics I have started to move the topics suggested by people to a separate place and started to include a list of interested people. I think the talks can be removed from this page as they are already available on t

Nested TAP at Oslo?

2008-03-26 Thread Ovid
Hi all, Below my signoff is a snippet from a test program ... You'll note that the one program has over 6,000 tests, but that's because they're aggregated. We now print out an ok/not ok status for each aggregated test program, but with so many aggregated tests, we need a summary. In effect, I'v

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-26 Thread Ovid
--- Gabor Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder if it would be possible to take the existing .*Unit > libraries > of Java and .Net and > create some wrapper around them (or a replacement) so people with > existing tests > written in those testing system would start producing TAP results. In

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now, does anyone know a student? I tried to spam all the local universities but with the current USD exchange rate people get about 30-40% less this year than 2 years ago... ok, I know its not about the money. Gabo

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:41:18AM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Michael G Schwern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The downside is there's no pretty GUIs for TAP, but the potential exists. > > It's a simple matter of programing. The upside is that when a TAP

Re: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
> -Original Message- > From: Michael G Schwern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > With Test::Harness 3 you can define special behaviors for various test files. > The power of this is that the test scripts can be written in anything, > doesn't > have to be Perl. There are TAP libraries in

Re: Hackathon logistics

2008-03-26 Thread Michael G Schwern
David Golden wrote: * Do we have one? Andy, can we use hex-ten? * A checkin notify list should also be ready. Whether it's hex-ten or something else, we'll need to make sure we all have access. I don't know that I ever got a commit bit for hex-ten. (At least, ohloh.net doesn't show me as a

RE: My Perl QA Hackathon Wishlist

2008-03-26 Thread Gergely Brautigam
Hmmm this seams like a very good thing! I will investigate it and create a demo, to convice my superiors. Thx very much Michael! Gergely. -Original Message- From: Michael G Schwern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 2:21 AM To: Gergely Brautigam Cc: perl-qa@perl.