Re: qa.perl.org - history page

2010-01-03 Thread Leo Lapworth
2010/1/3 Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com add one more level and make the tab be History, then history.html is a page which says a href=phalanxPhalanx 100/a started in 2003... Perhaps somebody would like to put together a more comprehensive QA timeline including the development of

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread Leo Lapworth
Hi, 2010/1/3 Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com Am I alone here in thinking that we should be using the Onion trademark rather than O'Reilly's trademark camel on the perl.org sites? This is what I told the TPF marketing list when they asked... --- The goal for www.perl.org is to encourage new

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 03 January 2010 at 03:21, Leo Lapworth wrote: Maybe someone could get a grant to hire someone/a company with design skills to come up with a better logo than the onion? It seems rather unlikely that TPF will go through the business of applying for another trademark because you don't

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread Pedro Figueiredo
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM, chromatic chroma...@wgz.org wrote: If the design of perl.org had been up to me, I'd have spent much more time promoting the Perl brand instead of the proprietary brand of a privately held corporation. For better or for worse, the Perl brand *is* the camel.

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread Shawn H Corey
Leo Lapworth wrote: Maybe someone could get a grant to hire someone/a company with design skills to come up with a better logo than the onion? I always thought that something to do with pearls would be nice. Kinda like this

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread Ricardo Signes
* Pedro Figueiredo m...@pedrofigueiredo.org [2010-01-03T07:06:19] On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM, chromatic chroma...@wgz.org wrote: If the design of perl.org had been up to me, I'd have spent much more time promoting the Perl brand instead of the proprietary brand of a privately held

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread Ricardo Signes
* Shawn H Corey shawnhco...@gmail.com [2010-01-03T07:22:01] Leo Lapworth wrote: Maybe someone could get a grant to hire someone/a company with design skills to come up with a better logo than the onion? I always thought that something to do with pearls would be nice. The problems with

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread Shawn H Corey
Ricardo Signes wrote: The problems with pearls include: (a) promoting mispeling Perl as Pearl and (b) a pearl reduces, in its simplest depiction, to a circle. It's not very visually distinctive. They're pronounced the same way. Perl as a pearl is a pun, a play on words. (Of course, some

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread Ovid
--- On Sun, 3/1/10, chromatic chroma...@wgz.org wrote: From: chromatic chroma...@wgz.org Maybe someone could get a grant to hire someone/a company with design skills to come up with a better logo than the onion? It seems rather unlikely that TPF will go through the business of

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread Ovid
--- On Sun, 3/1/10, Shawn H Corey shawnhco...@gmail.com wrote: From: Shawn H Corey shawnhco...@gmail.com An onion can be pretty pared down before you lose sight of what it is. I pared many an onion and you loose sight of it when the tears start to flow.  :) And let's face it: to many

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread Shawn H Corey
Ovid wrote: What is our concern vis-a-vis the camel and how can we approach O'Reilly regarding this concern? http://oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/perl/usage/ Note the part about permissi...@oreilly.com -- Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth, Shawn Programming is as much about

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread Shawn H Corey
Ovid wrote: And let's face it: to many people, onions stink and they *do* make you cry. That's not a positive association. Perl: the language that will make you cry. Shrek: strikeOgres are/strikePerls is like onions. Donkey: They stink? Shrek: Yes. No. Donkey: Oh, they make you cry.

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread Smylers
Ovid writes: customer perception is important. ... From a marketing perspective, the camel wins hand-down. From a legal perspective, what are the pros and cons? This definitely is important -- but as something which affects the Perl community as a whole, this aspect of the discussion seems

Re: camels

2010-01-03 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 03 January 2010 at 09:23, Ovid wrote: I would be happy to continue this discussion an another list; which one is most appropriate? What is our concern vis-a-vis the camel Any use of the camel in a fashion which may cause confusion with products, services, or initiatives of the