Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-04-05 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6 April 2017 at 06:10, James E Keenan wrote: > "[T]esting for what end users using the cpan toolchains will see" was > precisely what I was focusing on in this exercise Right. That's useful to /an/ audience. Its just not inherently useful information for me. Because this is a problem that wi

Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-04-05 Thread James E Keenan
On 04/04/2017 07:24 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: On 5 April 2017 at 10:35, James E Keenan wrote: Module::Runtime was successfully installed all three times -- though that's actually two times, because my first run used an earlier perl 5 blead commit. Each of the three runs used a different, progres

Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-04-04 Thread Kent Fredric
On 5 April 2017 at 10:35, James E Keenan wrote: > Module::Runtime was successfully installed all three times -- though that's > actually two times, because my first run used an earlier perl 5 blead > commit. Each of the three runs used a different, progressively newer > version of 'cpanm'. > > Ta

Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-04-04 Thread James E Keenan
On 04/04/2017 05:37 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: On 5 April 2017 at 08:28, James E Keenan wrote: the tip of the order of battle looks substantially different I must say though, your results confuse me. In my testing, the things that are holding back the most are ... Module::Runtime , and Task::W

Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-04-04 Thread Kent Fredric
On 5 April 2017 at 08:28, James E Keenan wrote: > the tip of the order of battle looks substantially different I must say though, your results confuse me. In my testing, the things that are holding back the most are ... Module::Runtime , and Task::Weaken. But neither of those are even *ON* you

Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-04-04 Thread James E Keenan
On 03/30/2017 04:36 PM, James E Keenan wrote: [snip] 7. Wrote second perl program (attached) called 'order-battle.pl' to record the order in which various modules *first* appeared in the 'fails' file and the total number of times each module was cited. Results are attached as 'order-of-battle-20

Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-03-30 Thread James E Keenan
On 03/30/2017 05:16 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: On 31 March 2017 at 09:36, James E Keenan wrote: For example, today David Golden prepared a new version of Sub::Uplevel -- the #1 distro in the order of battle. Once he releases that to CPAN, a tremendous number of downstream distros will have their

Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-03-30 Thread Kent Fredric
On 31 March 2017 at 09:36, James E Keenan wrote: > For example, today David Golden prepared a new version of Sub::Uplevel -- > the #1 distro in the order of battle. Once he releases that to CPAN, a > tremendous number of downstream distros will have their prerequisites > satisfied and -- assuming

Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-03-30 Thread James E Keenan
On 03/20/2017 09:32 PM, James E Keenan wrote: On 03/17/2017 09:42 PM, Karen Etheridge wrote: ​> ​ 1. Compose a list of CPAN distros starting with those farthest up river, i.e., distros that only depend on the perl 5 core. Within that set of distros I'd like to order them from most reverse depen

Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-03-21 Thread Todd Rinaldo
> On Mar 17, 2017, at 4:32 PM, James E Keenan wrote: > > perl-5.25.11 will be released on Monday March 20. Since this will be the > first monthly dev release to reflect the banishment of '.' from the default > @INC, it is the first monthly release in which we can assess the effect of > that

Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-03-21 Thread Neil Bowers
> ​> ​1. Compose a list of CPAN distros starting with those farthest up river, > i.e., distros that only depend on the perl 5 core. Within that set of > distros I'd like to order them from most reverse dependencies to fewest. > Then go down river from there. > > ​David Golden has a script for

Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-03-20 Thread James E Keenan
On 03/17/2017 09:42 PM, Karen Etheridge wrote: ​> ​ 1. Compose a list of CPAN distros starting with those farthest up river, i.e., distros that only depend on the perl 5 core. Within that set of distros I'd like to order them from most reverse dependencies to fewest. Then go down river from the

Re: BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-03-19 Thread Karen Etheridge
​> ​ 1. Compose a list of CPAN distros starting with those farthest up river, i.e., distros that only depend on the perl 5 core. Within that set of distros I'd like to order them from most reverse dependencies to fewest. Then go down river from there. ​David Golden has a script for generating the

BBC testing from upriver downwards

2017-03-17 Thread James E Keenan
perl-5.25.11 will be released on Monday March 20. Since this will be the first monthly dev release to reflect the banishment of '.' from the default @INC, it is the first monthly release in which we can assess the effect of that change on CPAN. Up until now we've mainly relied on Andreas and