Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
Eric Wilhelm wrote: > # from Andy Lester > # on Sunday 02 September 2007 08:53 pm: > >> When are we gonna put 2.99x up? > > I dunno. Are we waiting on t/compat/010-failure.t to be done? Seems to > work now. > > And TH_TODO still has these (non-Wishlist) bugs listed as open. > > - [ ] 8767

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Michael G Schwern # on Monday 03 September 2007 12:30 am: >Are these existing bugs in Test::Harness?  If so then you're at "no > worse then what's already there" status and should make a release. Probably. >Alphas:  Release early, release often.  The whole point is to get > people to bang

RE: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Gergely Brautigam
I'm sorry as a beginner on this list.. Can I ask in what these modules are written? These modules are in Perl aren't they? Are there any written in c++? Like Win32 modules? Gergely -Original Message- From: Eric Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:16 A

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 9/3/07, Gergely Brautigam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sorry as a beginner on this list.. Can I ask in what these modules are > written? These modules are in Perl aren't they? Are there any written in c++? > Like Win32 modules? Why not look at their source code? You can find the modules a

RE: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Gergely Brautigam
Yeah that was the second thing I done but then when it occurred to me I already sent the mail.. :) So sorry for the spam.. Gergely. -Original Message- From: Gabor Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:33 AM To: Gergely Brautigam Cc: perl-qa@perl.org Subject:

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
Gergely Brautigam wrote: > I'm sorry as a beginner on this list.. Can I ask in what these modules are > written? These modules are in Perl aren't they? Are there any written in c++? > Like Win32 modules? Yes, they're written in Perl. Yes, it will run on Windows. The nice part about TAP::Parser

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Ovid
--- Eric Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Are these existing bugs in Test::Harness? If so then you're at "no > > worse then what's already there" status and should make a release. > > Probably. Agreed. > >Alphas: Release early, release often. The whole point is to get > > people to ban

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
Ovid wrote: > Andy (Armstrong), aside from the fact that we now know that it fails > miserably on VMS, do you know of any show stoppers or potential > embarrassments? > > (The only reason I mention "potential embarrassments" is that CPANPLUS > and Module::Build have left such a bad taste in many p

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Ovid
--- Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How > > ironic. It's a silly concern, I know :) > > Wringing your hands > over perception issues defeats the point. Did you see the bit where I wrote "It's a silly concern"? I *know* this. > And folks don't beat on CPANPLUS and Module::Build

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 3 Sep 2007, at 09:49, Ovid wrote: Andy (Armstrong), aside from the fact that we now know that it fails miserably on VMS, do you know of any show stoppers or potential embarrassments? I'm just trying to reproduce a problem I had at YAPC. I installed POE via cpan with T::H 2.99 installed and

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Michael G Schwern
Ovid wrote: > --- Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> How >>> ironic. It's a silly concern, I know :) >> Wringing your hands >> over perception issues defeats the point. > > Did you see the bit where I wrote "It's a silly concern"? I *know* > this. I know. You just need an ass k

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 3 Sep 2007, at 10:23, Andy Armstrong wrote: I'm just trying to reproduce a problem I had at YAPC. I installed POE via cpan with T::H 2.99 installed and although the tests all seemed to have passed it tried to send a failure mail via CPAN::Reporter. Assuming I can either fix that quickly or it

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 3 Sep 2007, at 10:47, Andy Armstrong wrote: We do seem to have a problem. This is valid, right? 1..0 # most of these should move into other test files OK - I see that it's not valid without SKIP after the # - but I guess its presence in POE's tests means that TH 2.64 doesn't choke on it.

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 3 Sep 2007, at 10:55, Andy Armstrong wrote: OK - I see that it's not valid without SKIP after the # - but I guess its presence in POE's tests means that TH 2.64 doesn't choke on it. What to do? What to do: I've fixed the POE tests and mailed Chris Williams. It's not our problem. Anyon

Test::Harness 2.99_01 Released

2007-09-03 Thread Ovid
Announcements are at: http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/34324 http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=636740 Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Perl and CGI - http://users.easystreet.com/ovid/cgi_course/ Personal blog - http://publius-ovidius.livejournal.com/

Re: Recursive Tests pros and cons

2007-09-03 Thread David E. Wheeler
A bit late on the reply here, but… On Aug 19, 2007, at 05:44, Ovid wrote: By historical accident, virtually all tools expect that tests are in test.pl or the 't/' directory. Merely by taking advantage of this and using a different, standard directory, we avoid breaking any of those tools. A n

Re: Test::Harness 2.99_01 Released

2007-09-03 Thread Andy Lester
On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Ovid wrote: Announcements are at: http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/34324 http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=636740 Beautiful, thank you all. http://perlbuzz.com/project-hum/2007/09/testharness-3-alpha- released.html If any of you digg, please digg. I'm a

Re: Test::Harness 2.99_01 Released

2007-09-03 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 3 Sep 2007, at 18:20, Andy Lester wrote: If any of you digg, please digg. I'm also trying to put Perl back in front of eyeballs. Dugg, thanks Andy. -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

Re: TAP YAML diagnostics

2007-09-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
Hi Michael, * Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-01 19:32]: > On 9/1/07, Fergal Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On a tangent, I think using quotes is important otherwise you >> end up output like >> >> wanted: elbow >> found: elbow >> >> when what you really needed was >

Re: Win32:GuiTest

2007-09-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Smylers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-01 19:31]: > James E Keenan writes: > > Gergely Brautigam wrote: > > > > Does anybody know why is that so that sometimes when trying > > > to set a focuse to a window the window does not come into > > > forground but it stays on the menubar and just blinks...

Re: TAP YAML diagnostics

2007-09-03 Thread Ovid
--- "A. Pagaltzis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to force this in tandem? Ie. when one of the keys > has to be quoted, the other is always quoted also? Because I’d > hate to see this: > > wanted: elbow > found: 'elbow ' > > For simple cases like this one it’s livabl

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Andy Armstrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3 Sep 2007, at 20:19, Abe Timmerman wrote: Andy (Armstrong), aside from the fact that we now know that it fails miserably on VMS, do you know of any show stoppers or potential embarrassments? s!fails miserably!does not work at all! Any platform

Re: TAP YAML diagnostics

2007-09-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-03 21:20]: > If string data was *always* quoted and numeric data never was > (assuming it's really numeric), Fine with me. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis //

Re: Current state of TAP::Diagnostics

2007-09-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-02 09:32]: > What you're thinking of is RFC3339 which is more describing a > state of affairs on the Internet then anything else. Actually RFC 3339 date and time formats are best practice at the IETF/IESG. > At best it can be *omitted* (not replace

Re: Current state of TAP::Diagnostics

2007-09-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-02 09:31]: > YAML has data types. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML#Data_Types > > Both implicit > > - 3 # integer > - "3" # string > - 123.0 # float > > And explicit > > - !!float 123 # float > - !!str 1

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread James E Keenan
Eric Wilhelm wrote: Last week was me spending way too much time programming with two hands behind my back to get 5.5.3 compatibility, bundling Test::More, creating IO::Capture, etc. In this package's POD, it would probably be good to distinguish this package from the IO::Capture distribu

Re: Test::Harness 2.99 again

2007-09-03 Thread Abe Timmerman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ovid wrote: > > Andy (Armstrong), aside from the fact that we now know that it fails > miserably on VMS, do you know of any show stoppers or potential > embarrassments? s!fails miserably!does not work at all! Any platform without $Config{d_fork} wi