Why? Oh, why do people lately insist on offering up enticing tidbits of
/what is to be the next great ordained (core|6pan|etc)/ without offering
the community a chance to comment or participate? =(
Randy.
Well, in this case two reasons.
Firstly, although I have what I hope is a tentative
On Thursday 13 July 2006 23:37, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
If I got it right, the wish that was expressed is more like the wish for
an installer with a GUI.
Nope, just for a nice, easily-installable bundle of modules that work around
the unpleasant backwards compatibilities and warts of Perl 5.
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 01:25:51 +0200, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-14 00:55]:
Sure, but it's only one thing people need to remember. One
thing is easier than N things, especially as N changes every
time the core changes.
Yes, I agree. Don’t
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:52:02 -0700, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 13 July 2006 23:37, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
If I got it right, the wish that was expressed is more like the wish for
an installer with a GUI.
Nope, just for a nice, easily-installable bundle of modules that
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 07:45:55 -0400, Clayton O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Why off-list? this is a good reaction.
On 7/14/06, H.Merijn Brand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look at the list of modules I include in my perl distributions for HP-UX at
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/#Perl and
chromatic wrote:
Why is there not a Bundle::PerlPlus (and yes, I've lathered up my yak with
that name) that downloads and installs the modules that should have been in
the box?
For one, that should be Task::PerlPlus. :-)
Second, for any pre-packaged distribution like Strawberry Perl (see
On Friday 14 July 2006 08:18, David Golden wrote:
Or, perhaps we need the Perl CPAN Cookbook -- which would be like the
Cookbook but focuses *only* on the greatest-hits modules across all the
same categories. If CPAN is one of Perl's greatest strengths, shouldn't
that get more attention,
On Friday 14 July 2006 12:27, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
A book like this is something that's been in the back of my mind for a
while. If there were real interest in this topic (and I think there
is), I would be happy to help out in a significant way, like writing
several chapters.
If someone
Or, perhaps we need the Perl CPAN Cookbook -- which would be like the
Cookbook but focuses *only* on the greatest-hits modules across all the
same categories. If CPAN is one of Perl's greatest strengths, shouldn't
that get more attention, too?
Er, right. Now let me don my editor hat.
On 7/14/06, H.Merijn Brand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look at the list of modules I include in my perl distributions for HP-UX at
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/#Perl and you might get an idea of what
I think are useful modules that my work more effective. Not quite like yours
is it?
I think
--- Clayton O'Neill wrote:
I think a core difference between your list and Chromatic's is that
yours would be part of the standard library in a lot of languages,
whereas Chromatic seems to be aiming more for things that would be
part of the language.
Who's Chromatic?
/-\
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 08:36:54AM +1000, Andrew Savige wrote:
--- Clayton O'Neill wrote:
I think a core difference between your list and Chromatic's is that
yours would be part of the standard library in a lot of languages,
whereas Chromatic seems to be aiming more for things that would be
On Friday 14 July 2006 17:59, Andrew Savige wrote:
I thought Chromatic might be the name of chromatic's father or older
brother.
No, that's Mixolydian and Ionian, respectively.
-- c
(Yes, of course my mother is Dorian. What were you thinking?)
--- Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 08:36:54AM +1000, Andrew Savige wrote:
Who's Chromatic?
And it wasn't even the start of a sentence. :-)
[When doing the perl 6 summaries, Piers reconciled the forces of accuracy and
traditional grammar by ensuring by always rephrasing to
On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:03 PM, chromatic wrote:
On Friday 14 July 2006 17:59, Andrew Savige wrote:
I thought Chromatic might be the name of chromatic's father or older
brother.
No, that's Mixolydian and Ionian, respectively.
-- c
(Yes, of course my mother is Dorian. What were you
Unlike what others said, core perl shouldn't be the vehicle for this,
most likely, given the more stringent support and backwards
compatibility. We want to be able to change the composition of
PerlPlus overtime, and once things go into core, they're pretty stuck.
I should note for the record
Adam Kennedy wrote:
Unlike what others said, core perl shouldn't be the vehicle for
this, most likely, given the more stringent support and backwards
compatibility. We want to be able to change the composition of
PerlPlus overtime, and once things go into core, they're pretty stuck.
I
I asked How does a programming language stagnate? a couple of weeks ago.
Peter Scott responded with wisdom, in particular:
Modules like SUPER and NEXT are pragmata designed to make Perl behave
the way
we (for large values of we) think it should have behaved to begin with.
* chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-13 21:10]:
Why is there not a Bundle::PerlPlus (and yes, I've lathered up
my yak with that name) that downloads and installs the modules
that should have been in the box?
I thought that’s called “the core distribution.” NEXT is already
in there. So is
On Thursday 13 July 2006 13:32, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
I thought that’s called “the core distribution.” NEXT is already
in there. So is List::Util (a big deal for me).
Maybe for Perl 5.9.x... but how long will it be between someone
realizing Hey, SUPER should have been in Perl 5 from the start
On 7/13/06, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is there not a Bundle::PerlPlus (and yes, I've lathered up my yak with
that name) that downloads and installs the modules that should have been in
the box?
Sure, a Bundle::PerlPlus would be fun. Installing it wouldn't be.
Perl module
* chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-13 23:25]:
On Thursday 13 July 2006 13:32, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
I thought that’s called “the core distribution.” NEXT is
already in there. So is List::Util (a big deal for me).
Maybe for Perl 5.9.x... but how long will it be between someone
realizing
On Thursday 13 July 2006 15:40, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
People would install these modules anyway even if they
never get into core or a Bundle::PerlPlus, if they knew that
these modules are important to them in the first place.
That's really the point. Instead of saying, Go install X and Y and Z
* chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-14 00:55]:
Sure, but it's only one thing people need to remember. One
thing is easier than N things, especially as N changes every
time the core changes.
Yes, I agree. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying Bundle::PerlPlus
is a bad idea (though in adding a
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