Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Richard Hainsworth
In my $life, I raise money from sponsors. It is not difficult to spend money, once you have it. It is not difficult to raise money, once you know how to spend it wisely. What's difficult is putting the two together. Some donors know what to contribute to - they choose specific projects and

RE: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Conrad Schneiker
On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:25:42 Joshua Gatcomb wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could take a month's sabbatical from my day job for $5000 without losing insurance coverage or other benefits. That's slightly more than Audrey's $100/day, I

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Richard Hainsworth
Me too. $500. That's 3*500, so far. Can I do this through the Perl Foundation as an earmark? Conrad Schneiker wrote: On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:25:42 Joshua Gatcomb wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could take a month's sabbatical from my

RE: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Conrad Schneiker
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:24 AM Whilst debating issues like parrot vs pugs, or single-track vs parellel track development, can be quite interesting, especially if it induces Larry to compare straight lines to mountains and

RE: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Conrad Schneiker
From: Geoffrey Broadwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 6:20 PM On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 18:45 -0500, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Allow people to choose where their money will go (if that's what

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:03:03AM +0300, Richard Hainsworth wrote: No one likes bureacracy. But I feel much happier about handing over money, or persuading someone else to hand over money, to a group of people with established procedures and collective responsibility, than to some

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Richard Hainsworth
OOOWWW my tail is burnt!!! But I wasnt on the committee... promise. Sorry about the cat... So lets get some money into this Foundation, so that, perhaps, Larry might possibly, if he deserves, get a little more money. Richard Larry Wall wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:03:03AM +0300,

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread moritz
In article !!AAAYAJmSy7DjO29Fg/NooSGjnaXCgAAAEEc+mhI1TL9CiDgj [EMAIL PROTECTED], Conrad Schneiker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So over the next few months, I'm planning to learn about fundraising, and see what I can accomplish on behalf of Perl 6 development. To that end,

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Richard Dice
Hi everyone, Guess it's time for me to finally join the discussion. :-) I've been paying attention to this thread since it started. Which made me think ... wasn't this why Mozilla created a corporation? I believe one can find online write-ups from the people involved with the decision to

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that this can't be done directly because of rules surrounding TPF's non-profit status. Someone else pointed out the problems with TPF officers benefitting directly from the donations, even though some of

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: I am mostly ignoring the rest of what others have said in this thread because I think it is detracting from your intention of getting money to people to work more. Here is one thing that has frustrated me about TPF. They are a non-profit organization.

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what made me come to the conclusion that it's really The Parrot Foundation. It's not The Parrot Foundation. It's that NLNet gave a very large targeted grant for Parrot. It's a single big donation that's driving that. I'm working

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what made me come to the conclusion that it's really The Parrot Foundation. As brian mentioned, the NLNet grant is what's driving the Parrot work. AFAIK, there haven't been any Parrot-related grants for a long time besides that one and

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Richard Dice
I've seen that Daniel Ruoso applied for a grant for his smop project, basically a virtual machine and fast backend for kp6, and perhaps other implementations. TPF decided not to invest into yet another implementation. I appreciate that it is a subtle distinction to make, too subtle to