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At 5:29 PM +0100 8/28/02, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 12:17:55PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 10:36 AM +0200 8/28/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Will there be automatic calling of the deserialization method
for objects, so that code like this DWIMs...
my Date
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number of folks are holding off installing 5.6.x because of various
issues with the original 5.6.0 release.
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On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Dan Sugalski wrote:
[Pardon the tardiness--digging through old mail]
At 3:39 PM -0400 7/22/02, Melvin Smith wrote:
At 12:00 PM 7/22/2002 +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 11:21:09AM +0100, Graham Barr
the generated code by itself as a test? (At the moment, the
assembler's rather slow)
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encoding, so it
should be fine. (Though I bet a lot of folks will be rather surprised
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At 12:34 PM -0400 7/17/02, Mark J. Reed wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 12:13:47PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
I thought Java used UTF-16. It's a variable-width encoding, so it
should be fine. (Though I bet a lot of folks will be rather surprised
when it happens...)
UTF-16 isn't technically
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At 9:50 PM -0400 7/9/02, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
3. Is C%MY intended to reflect the PAD
At 11:52 PM -0400 7/10/02, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
According to Dan Sugalski:
One pad per block, rather than per sub.
Because, of course, all blocks are subs. Got it.
Yep. (Well, modulo optimizations of course ;)
The place where you'll run into problems in where you have multiple
variables
At 7:18 PM +0100 7/11/02, Dave Mitchell wrote:
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 10:41:20AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
The place where you'll run into problems in where you have multiple
variables of the same name at the same level, which you can do in
perl 5.
can it?
Yes.
can you give an example
At 2:47 PM -0400 7/11/02, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
According to Dan Sugalski:
At 9:50 PM -0400 7/9/02, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
3a. If so, how can one distinguish among the e.g. many Cmy $foo
variables declared within the current function?
One pad per block, rather than per sub
At 7:35 PM +0100 7/11/02, Dave Mitchell wrote:
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 02:29:08PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 7:18 PM +0100 7/11/02, Dave Mitchell wrote:
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 10:41:20AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
The place where you'll run into problems in where you have multiple
At 9:18 PM +0100 7/11/02, Tim Bunce wrote:
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 02:29:08PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 7:18 PM +0100 7/11/02, Dave Mitchell wrote:
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 10:41:20AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
The place where you'll run into problems in where you have multiple
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it to be used mainly for introspective things.
It's also useful, at compile time, for changing the caller's
environment, but that's not what we're worried about, I expect.
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At 9:50 PM -0400 7/9/02, Chip Salzenberg wrote:
3. Is C%MY intended to reflect the PAD?
Yes.
Hey! How's this for a scary thought:
$continuation.the_pad
What's that supposed to do, though
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At 3:01 PM -0700 7/8/02, Peter Scott wrote:
At 04:54 PM 7/8/02 -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
A continuation is a sort of super-closure. Like a closure it
captures its lexical variables, so every time you use it, you're
referring to the same set of variables, which live on until the
continuation's
At 10:24 PM +0100 7/8/02, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:54:16PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
Pretty simple. (For illustrative purposes) To do that with
continuations, it'd look like:
$cont = take_continuation();
if ($foo) {
$foo--;
invoke($cont
blocks, but even in languages where they're
fundamental constructs most people don't make use of them. (Or use
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, that and not minding the
first version likely getting tossed out when we do the final
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At 10:10 AM -0400 5/15/02, Aaron Sherman wrote:
On Sat, 2002-05-11 at 00:39, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 8:58 PM -0700 5/10/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was wondering how perl6 would stringify (as in Data::Dumper):
That's not stringification. It's serialization, which is a different
thing
of having the sub potentially redefined while you're
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At 9:26 AM -0400 5/7/02, Aaron Sherman wrote:
On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 16:26, Dan Sugalski wrote:
I forgot to announce the call for questions here (sorry), but the
answers 9and the questions) to the first round of Ask The Parrot have
been posted over on use.perl.
http://use.perl.org
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At 2:26 PM +0100 4/26/02, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 01:25:15PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 12:36 PM -0400 4/23/02, Buddha Buck wrote:
OK, but that limits you to the, um, 24 standard levels of
precedence. What do you do if you don't think that that's enough
At 5:05 PM +0100 4/26/02, Tim Bunce wrote:
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 11:33:06AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 2:26 PM +0100 4/26/02, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 01:25:15PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 12:36 PM -0400 4/23/02, Buddha Buck wrote:
OK, but that limits you
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At 7:25 AM -0700 4/11/02, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Dan == Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dan (Or maybe attributed string eval, like:
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That would make more sense to me (for whatever
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*) Double-quoted strings
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At 4:22 PM -0800 4/4/02, Larry Wall wrote:
Dan Sugalski writes:
: At 3:11 PM -0800 4/3/02, Larry Wall wrote:
: Piers Cawley writes:
: : Jonathan Scott Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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: : On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:27:10AM -0800, Larry Wall wrote:
: : They are assumed to be declared
sorting, or do
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the block.
Just out of curiosity, is there anything macros (in the Lisp sense)
can do that source filters can't?
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interesting stuff over there. How atypically slashdot...
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At 4:17 PM -0500 1/18/02, Michael G Schwern wrote:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 03:35:59PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 10:16 AM +0200 1/18/02, raptor wrote:
Did u passed Bermuda Triangle :)
It may be a bit before Ex4 is done. Damian's on a cruise ship at the
moment, so even if he's got
http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=1780/urm0111h/0111h.htm
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At 06:48 AM 11/9/2001 +, Piers Cawley wrote:
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 04:21 PM 11/8/2001 -0800, John Rudd wrote:
So, does this mean my other heart's desire of operator overloading might
be coming forth? (I know, I know, here I am, a smalltalker, asking for
operator
, you mean being able to override the + function for a variable,
complete with method dispatch depending on the types of the variables on
both sides of the +?
Yup ;)
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The biggest problem with reading mail from Damian is I keep wanting to
rot13 the thing..
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smacked... :) You'll certainly be able to use modules written purely in
parrot assembly.
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At 05:12 PM 10/10/2001 +0200, RaFaL Pocztarski wrote:
Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 08:37 AM 10/9/2001 -0700, Brent Dax wrote:
For consistency, I'd prefer to use is: 3+(2 is i).
Well, the convention is suffixing an imaginary number with an i. I don't
think we'd be too well served to go
At 04:42 PM 10/10/2001 +0100, Sam Vilain wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:32:02 -0400
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great idea, as well as sqrt(-1) returning 1i istead of raising the
exception.
If we do them, yep. Currently no promises there.
If you do that, make sure it has
At 07:01 PM 10/10/2001 +0200, Bart Lateur wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:52:16 -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
If people want base 10, let them use e syntax.
1e3 = 1000
1k = 1024
I'll leave that for Larry to decide. I'm just thinking of all the 60G hard
drives I see at Best Buy
wherever they go.
$foo + $bar
will call $foo's overloaded add if it has one no matter where $foo's used.
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At 12:12 PM 9/8/2001 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
DS == Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DS Can anyone think of things I've forgotten? It's been a while since
I've
DS done numeric work.
i am not being picky, but there is secant, and arc hyperbolics too. you
can derive secant from
perfectly comfortable with, so I'm
fine. Once we've worked out how things should behave, then we can get on
with implementing it.
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At 11:51 AM 9/6/2001 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
DS == Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DSmy $foo = 'a';
DS{
DS {
DS%MY[-1]{'$foo'} = 'B';
DSprint $foo;
DS }
DS }
explain %MY[-1] please.
my impression is that is illegal
At 02:05 PM 9/6/2001 -0400, Ken Fox wrote:
Dan Sugalski wrote:
[stuff I snipped]
I'm worried a little about building features with global effects.
Part of Perl 6 is elimination of action-at-a-distance, but now
we're building the swiss-army-knife-of-action-at-a-distance.
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Fair enough. I don't much care what its called, as long as I know what it
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At 07:24 PM 9/4/2001 -0400, Bryan C. Warnock wrote:
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 07:25 pm, Dan Sugalski wrote:
Ah, but what people will want is:
my $x = foo\n;
{
my $x = bar\n;
delete $MY::{'$x'};
print $x;
}
to print foo. That's where things get tricky
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At 10:17 PM 9/3/2001 -0400, Bryan C. Warnock wrote:
On Monday 03 September 2001 09:30 pm, Dan Sugalski wrote:
A clever idea, and one I'd not though of. That's probably the best way to
do it. Has some other issues, like do we allow prototypes like:
sub foo ($$) {};
to be called
At 10:32 PM 9/3/2001 -0400, Bryan C. Warnock wrote:
On Monday 03 September 2001 10:27 pm, Dan Sugalski wrote:
To me, that seems only a language decision. This could certainly handle
that.
Ah, but calling in the first way has two PMCs in as parameters, while the
second has only one
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