MLC has its own sublist: WAS: Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-07 Thread Michael Mathews
Please post further MLC remarks to the MLC sublist: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't guarentee that any MLC comments posted under a different subject, and on a different list will make it into the final Multiline Comments RFC! Not to mention that this specific argument is already addressed in the

Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-07 Thread Glenn Linderman
John Porter wrote: Glenn Linderman wrote: When using an inline comment, I want to spend my character budget mostly on the comment, and just enough on the delimiters to see it effectively. # magic here # would do quite nicely When reading a script, I'd like to be able to quickly

Preprocessing (Was: Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why)

2000-08-05 Thread Johan Vromans
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, cpp has the significant advantage that its active syntax is designed to be embedded in a programming language and are Perl comments. This is *not* true of m4, which would be horribly, horribly confused by a Perl script. I fail to see this

Re: Preprocessing (Was: Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why)

2000-08-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I fail to see this point. Having a program depend on a preprocessing stage that, if skipped, would still result in valid but erroneous source seems dangerous to me. No, the point is more that normal Perl source is *full* of active m4 characters.

Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-05 Thread Nick Ing-Simmons
Michael Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jonathan Scott Duff said Status: tabled # shelved, put away for now Please avoid 'tabled' - it means near the opposite in the UK. To table something is to put it "on the table" i.e. open for discussion. -- Nick Ing-Simmons

Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-04 Thread Johan Vromans
John Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But a standardized macro facility would be nice. Although -- wouldn't it have to parse perl? Or else have a wholly distinct grammar? Several macro processors exist and are easily available. I do not see the need to duplicate (parts of) their

Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-04 Thread Johan Vromans
Tom Christiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While a function style or quoted form comment might seem clever, and even Perlish due to its syntax, it doesn't help the author of the code/comments readily distinguish them. What good are comments if you can't find them when you need them?

Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-04 Thread Tom Christiansen
Several macro processors exist and are easily available. I do not see the need to duplicate (parts of) their functionality in perl. Personally, I'd even trow out -P. Well, possibly, but especially if a cpp-like source filter module is included standard. --tom

Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-04 Thread Tom Christiansen
I don't much care for m4; it's not so much better than cpp to be worth the notice. *Strongly* disagree. --tom

Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-04 Thread John Porter
Tom Christiansen wrote: I don't much care for m4; it's not so much better than cpp to be worth the notice. *Strongly* disagree. O.k., what I really meant was, When they're both incapable of doing the sorts of things I want a macro language to do, does it matter that one is gobs more

Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-04 Thread raptor
hi, it will be good if all these RFC are put somewhere on the WEB (we can't follow all those mailing lists if the amout of posts stay the same :") ) also in this way we will get broader picture what is happenning.. = iVAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] =

Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-03 Thread Tom Christiansen
While a function style or quoted form comment might seem clever, and even Perlish due to its syntax, it doesn't help the author of the code/comments readily distinguish them. What good are comments if you can't find them when you need them? Sounds like an argument for :10,20s/^/###/ style

Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-03 Thread Buddha Buck
At 01:11 PM 8/3/00 -0500, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote: BTW, I propose that RFCs have a Status: field as part of the VERSION. Here are some possible values that I can see: Status: accepted # we all agree that it should go in Status: rejected # we all agree that it shouldn't go in Status:

Re: Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-03 Thread Nathan Torkington
Steve Simmons writes: This idea is both important and more general. If we go thru a huge discussion of, say, multi-line comments and decide *not* to do it, we don't want to have the whole thing repeated with perl 6.1, 7.0, etc, etc. When something reaches RFC stage but is rejected, part of

Recording what we decided *not* to do, and why

2000-08-03 Thread Steve Simmons
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 11:40:24AM +0900, Simon Cozens wrote: On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:34:36PM -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote: That Perl should stay Perl Do we need an RFC for this? Seems like this is more of a "guiding concept" that should be intergrated into everything. Just my opinion.