This seems good...the HOF stuff seems to have pretty well accepted, and
the thumbtack notation with it.
Dave
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Clayton Scott wrote:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, David L. Nicol wrote:
%record = loadrecord($studentID);
with %record {
Dave Storrs wrote:
On 17 Aug 2000, Johan Vromans wrote:
Dave Storrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
2) "express" should guarantee that, before it creates a variable
names $FOO, it first calls "local" on any existing $FOO
Why, if the variable is lexical (see 3)?
D'oh. s{2) .+^}{}
This seems less of a leap of logic/faith:
%record = loadrecord($studentID);
with %record {
print SPAM;
Dear ^name:
Your tuition is now due. Please send in a payment of at least
^minumum.
SPAM
};
"I do not thin' that
Damian Conway wrote:
So Cwith is going to have to do some pretty freaky magic to work out
it should call that sub as part of the Cprint. And call it with a
specifically ordered argument list.
Yes, I never said it would work, just that it looked nicer :)
However, your suggestion
I'm not sure if you are disagreeing with me or not.
The context was the statment that $STDOUT is the _default_ filehandle.
I was pointing out that by _overriding_ the instantaneous meaning of
$STDOUT to the default fail handle, one would lose the immediate
access to the previous value.
I.e.
Chaim Frenkel wrote:
Unless one wants to have a $DEFAULT filehandle and get rid of single
arg select.
Great minds think alike. :-)
I'm in the process of codifying an RFC that will be titled something
like:
"Replace default filehandle / select with $OUTPUT fileobject"
(chose $OUTPUT b/c
Chaim Frenkel wrote:
NW P.S. If you're not on -io, this implicitly means you DON'T CARE and are
NW willing to accept whatever we come up with. So, everyone that's
NW interested please get on -io. Thanks again.
That's a bit strong. All we are doing is filtering the garbage for Larry.
Aug 5 1999 Digest.pm
From: Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Uri Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: command line option: $|++
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:08:24 -0400
i just found an interseting little oddity i want fixed. i (like many of
you) run one liners for testing
time when i want to edit the previous line only a little
: bit. i tried using ssfe (split screen front end, comes with sirc char
: client) and i saw no output due to pipe buffering. so i had to put a
: $|++ in the one liner to make it work. perl6 should have a command line
: option to enable
On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 09:14:20AM -0400, Casey R. Tweten wrote:
This, by the way (even as a test) was agravating to me because in order to
get decent output I really had to do this:
cat /etc/passwd | perl -nfe '$\="\n";print((split/:/)[0])'
cat /etc/passwd | perl -lnfe
Ed Mills wrote:
Sounds like a good idea. I propose a commandline arg that gives info about
modules in @INC also. I emailed this to the list earlier but it never seemed
to make it.
Something like
perl -M 'Digest'
might return:
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/:
-r--r--r-- 1
Today around 11:01am, Jonathan Scott Duff hammered out this masterpiece:
: On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 09:14:20AM -0400, Casey R. Tweten wrote:
: This, by the way (even as a test) was agravating to me because in order to
: get decent output I really had to do this:
:
: cat /etc/passwd | perl
On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 10:03:55AM -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote:
Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
Well, now it's my turn to suggest something ;- How about we give
perl the ability to look for a .perlrc file? (Yes, I know the reasons
against, but everything is up for grabs now right? :-)
If
At 12:31 PM 8/15/00 -0400, Casey R. Tweten wrote:
Frankly, they're both ugly. I personally like the *idea*, I'm not
advocating my solution. It would be wonderful if we could assign values
to Perl's special variables when we're doing a one line quick
hack.
With a bit of luck, the special
Peter Scott wrote:
I don't want to be in the -io discussion; I just want to know the
conclusions that might affect -language. It seems silly to discuss
command-line options for setting $| here if there isn't going to be a $|.
Ok, read this thread (4 messages long):
On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 12:57:46PM -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote:
This is a succinct summary of the basic conclusions thus far:
1. a default filehandle IS needed sometimes, but only
for stuff like print
Well, I think that Cprint should always print to $PERL::STDOUT (or
whatever we call
Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 12:57:46PM -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote:
This is a succinct summary of the basic conclusions thus far:
1. a default filehandle IS needed sometimes, but only
for stuff like print
Well, I think that Cprint should always print to
"JSD" == Jonathan Scott Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JSD On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 12:57:46PM -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote:
This is a succinct summary of the basic conclusions thus far:
1. a default filehandle IS needed sometimes, but only
for stuff like print
JSD Well, I think that Cprint
"NW" == Nathan Wiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
NW2. $|, $\, $/, etc will probably go away entirely in
NW favor of object methods such as $handle-autoflush
It think they will still be needed as lexical variables used as an
initializer for the corresponding per-filehandle value.
chaim
At 12:57 PM 8/15/00 -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote:
This is a succinct summary of the basic conclusions thus far:
1. a default filehandle IS needed sometimes, but only
for stuff like print
2. $|, $\, $/, etc will probably go away entirely in
favor of object methods such as
On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 06:53:30PM -0400, Chaim Frenkel wrote:
What if you want to print to a default file handle and also to STDOUT?
select(OTHERFH);
print "This goest to OTHERFH\n";
print STDOOUT "This went to STDOUT\n";
print $_ "Here I come to save the day!\n" for
Peter Scott wrote:
Can someone knowledgeable on this issue speak to it?
Will $| $/ $\ et al be retired, or be valid for some default filehandle?
Will there still be default filehandles?
There's been a big debate on the -io list about this. No clear decisions
yet, but looks like the
Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
Well, now it's my turn to suggest something ;- How about we give
perl the ability to look for a .perlrc file? (Yes, I know the reasons
against, but everything is up for grabs now right? :-)
If we do this, it should be off by default. csk/ksh make you turn it
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