On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 01:18:58PM +1200, Sam Vilain wrote:
: On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 16:33 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
: : I would assume that you would choose time 0.0 = Jan 1, 2000 at 00:00:00.0
: : TAI (December 31, 1999 at 23:59:29.0 UTC), making the whole thing free of
: : any UTC
Exegesis 3 contains this snippet,
my $inflation;
print Inflation rate: and $inflation = +
until $inflation != NaN;
but the rule that +hello evaluates to NaN is no longer
mentioned in S03, according to Autrijus.
He suggested I post here to get a ruling.
--
Daniel Brockman [EMAIL
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 01:35:14AM +0800, Autrijus Tang wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 07:32:01PM +0200, TSa wrote:
you wrote:
Perl 6 in its unannotated form is also (mostly) a typeless languages,
with only the five builtin types, much like Perl 5 is.
Counting the sigil quadriga as 4,
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 02:04:41PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 01:35:14AM +0800, Autrijus Tang wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 07:32:01PM +0200, TSa wrote:
Counting the sigil quadriga as 4, what is the fifth element?
@ $ % ::
In Perl5, :: is replaced by *.
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:40:05 +0100, Adrian Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 15 Aug 2005, at 02:13, David Formosa ((aka ? the Platypus)) wrote:
After a very fruitful discussion I've rewritten my suggested GC API.
Comments please.
[snip]
I'm speaking from complete ignorance since I've
Taimu? TAI- -mu.
Sorry. Couldn't resist the pun. (Bad Japanese pun, but nonetheless.)
-Jasmine
2005/8/15, Sam Vilain [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 16:33 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
: I would assume that you would choose time 0.0 = Jan 1, 2000 at 00:00:00.0
: TAI (December 31,
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Larry Wall wrote:
But the best part is that if we abandon UTC leap seconds for civil time,
we don't have to remember leap seconds going forward, only backward from
2000.
So you want to take on the (very irritating, I tell you) burden of leap
seconds going _backwards_ but
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 09:21:14PM -0400, Jasmine Pues wrote:
: Taimu? TAI- -mu.
:
: Sorry. Couldn't resist the pun. (Bad Japanese pun, but nonetheless.)
Well, hmm, yes, taimu means time in Japanese, but only because it's
borrowed... ☺
On the other hand, if you're willing to coin a new
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:24:41AM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote:
: On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Larry Wall wrote:
:
: But the best part is that if we abandon UTC leap seconds for civil time,
: we don't have to remember leap seconds going forward, only backward from
: 2000.
:
: So you want to take on the
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, zowie wrote:
Hmmm... at least backwards leap-seconds are fixed. Handling leap-seconds for
all time requires net access or frequent software updates, but a single block
of 32 comparisons handles everything up to A.D. 2000.
Well, if you want accuracy you need to get that
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 08:37:24AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
: But that's in contrast to your saying that the epoch would be December 31,
: 1999 at 23:59:29.0 UTC. Or did I misread your earlier messages?
Yes, you misread it. I was angling for 00:00:00.0 UTC. But it scarcely
matters if UTC
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Autrijus Tang wrote:
...This seems to be quite consistent with the rumoured US proposal to
abolish leap seconds by adding leap hours every 500 years or so:
Wow, a piece of US government policy I can actually support! Hell must be
a cold place right now.
-dave
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:17:18 +0300, Yuval Kogman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
2) Some way of being able to tell the garbage collector to ignore
the current contents of the heap for the purposes of GC. One
Pop-11 idiom was to do something like:
[...]
We are trying to design a
delurk
A related question:
I think it was stated, that the time will be some floating-point number.
Will its precision be predetermined or will it be system-dependent?
(Or maybe the precision is no-issue -- it could be important in comparisons,
but one can argue one should always specify the
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 05:32:50 -, David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus)
wrote:
I don't think that making use of use and no would be shorter and
far more Perlish. Also this allows us to switch off the
modifications.
Uh, why didn't I think of that =)
This is getting me thinking
I vote for double-precision floating-point. Since double precision
is good to 10^-15, that allows times to be specified to a precision
of about 3 microseconds for the next century, and to a precision of
30 microseconds for the next millennium. Anyone who wants more
precision than that is
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 03:48:22PM +0200, Daniel Brockman wrote:
: Exegesis 3 contains this snippet,
:
:my $inflation;
:print Inflation rate: and $inflation = +
:until $inflation != NaN;
:
: but the rule that +hello evaluates to NaN is no longer
: mentioned in S03, according to
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 15:59:34 +0100, Adrian Howard wrote:
On 15 Aug 2005, at 13:17, Yuval Kogman wrote:
I'm not sure what you're proposing here. A separate arena for
stuff you want to allocate and not be moved by the GC? How would
I tell the compiler?
You won't, the language glue is
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:00:14AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
: If we go with class names being the undefined prototypical values,
: and if we assume that NaN is an unthrown exception variant of
: the undefined value for object types like Num, then we might even
: end up with Num == NaN, albeit with
The purpose of my project is to detect type-unsafe Perl 5. It's implemented
with Malcom Beattie's compiler back-end. Naturally, my type inference
cannot be sound due to the inherent ambiguities of Perl and things like
'eval string;', but I think it's enough for many purposes.
Right now I'm
On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 10:25:32PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
In particular, the DBI must not mandate impossible levels of support from
the drivers. It will benefit you nothing if the DBI is immaculate and
wonderful and incredibly all-singing and all-dancing, but no-one can write
a driver
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 11:07:51AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
Sure, except that you're not really inheriting from a role here.
You're really inheriting from an anonymous class of the same name. :-)
Hmm, Anonymous class with the name 'Array of Any' sounds like
an oxymoron. Also consider:
On 8/16/05, Tim Bunce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was a little dissapointed that there wasn't greater focus on using
Perl6 features - especially as it would have helped kick-start my own
understanding of Perl6 topics that I expect to be significant (such as
Roles and Pairs, to pick two at
At 4:04 PM +0100 8/16/05, Tim Bunce wrote:
I was a little dissapointed that there wasn't greater focus on using
Perl6 features - especially as it would have helped kick-start my own
understanding of Perl6 topics that I expect to be significant (such as
Roles and Pairs, to pick two at random).
On 8/16/05, Ingo Blechschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
1_234; # surely 1234
1e23; # surely 1 * 10**23
1._5; # call of method _5 on 1?
1._foo; # call of method _foo on 1?
1.e5; # 1.0 * 10**5?
1.efoo; # call of method efoo on 1?
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 08:36:19PM +, Luke Palmer wrote:
On 8/16/05, Ingo Blechschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
1_234; # surely 1234
1e23; # surely 1 * 10**23
1._5; # call of method _5 on 1?
1._foo; # call of method _foo on 1?
Tim Bunce wrote:
And nobody mentioned JDBC as a potential model. Odd that.
I was sorely tempted to do so (and did mention it a few times in
my posts, along w/ ODBC and ADO.NET), but there are some things about
JDBC which rub me the wrong way (e.g., explicit set/get methods for every
data
On 16 Aug 2005, at 18:14, Yuval Kogman wrote:
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 15:59:34 +0100, Adrian Howard wrote:
I'm not sure what you're proposing here. A separate arena for
stuff you want to allocate and not be moved by the GC? How would
I tell the compiler?
You won't, the language glue is
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 22:24 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
: That's my leaning--if I thought it might encourage the abandonment of
: civil leap seconds, I'd be glad to nail it to Jan 1, 2000, 00:00:00.0 UTC.
: If we're going with TAI, can't we just nail it to the epoch it defines,
: instead?
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