Re: "<->" as "->" with automatic "is rw"

2004-08-21 Thread Jonadab the Unsightly One
Juerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sick would be if <- were introduced to make the variable write-only ;) Sicker still would be if - were introduced to make the variable neither readable nor writeable. HTH.HAND. -- $;=sub{$/};@;=map{my($a,$b)=($_,$;);$;=sub{$a.$b->()}} split//,"[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: A thought for later -- POD tables

2004-08-21 Thread Aaron Sherman
Luke Palmer wrote: On the other hand, Larry had a good point. Why couldn't we do: =begin table ... =end table For some sufficiently simple ...? Obviously this gives the formatter control over how the table is formatted, which is arguably a bad thing since it won't be implemented (POD tools are mo

Re: A thought for later -- POD tables

2004-08-21 Thread Peter Scott
Maybe this train has already left the station, but I find myself preferring Kwiki syntax to POD these days... any chance we could use Kwiki with WAFL for the Perl 6 POD? That of course has already got tables. (Still bracketing with the =for ... =cut directives, though.) Just a thought... -- Pet

Re: Synopsis 2 draft 1 -- each and every

2004-08-21 Thread Luke Palmer
David Green writes: > On 8/20/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luke Palmer) wrote: > >So all the laziness goes into the array implementation. But you don't > >even need to write your iterator fancily. If you just write your scalar > >version of postcircumfix:<>, Perl will do the rest. > > So if you use an

Re: A thought for later -- POD tables

2004-08-21 Thread Luke Palmer
Aaron Sherman writes: > Also, you pointed out that my example was hard to read, but you only > pointed out the particularly complex example (where I WANTED to > demonstrate all of the complex cases), not the simple one. The general > case would probably look like: > >H< Function | Returns >

Re: Return with no expression

2004-08-21 Thread Uri Guttman
> "AS" == Aaron Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AS> Matthew Walton wrote: >> Larry Wall wrote: >> >>> I suspect there's an argument that [0,0) ought to be considered undef >>> (which would conveniently numerify to 0 with an optional warning). >> >> In the absence of a parad

Re: Return with no expression

2004-08-21 Thread Aaron Sherman
Matthew Walton wrote: Larry Wall wrote: I suspect there's an argument that [0,0) ought to be considered undef (which would conveniently numerify to 0 with an optional warning). In the absence of a paradox value, undef would be fine there I think :-) Too bad we don't have NaRN (Not a Random Number).

Re: A thought for later -- POD tables

2004-08-21 Thread Aaron Sherman
Luke Palmer wrote: Aaron Sherman writes: <> H< C<$_> | C<$x> | Type of Match Implied | Matching Code > T< Any | CodeC<< <$> >> | scalar sub truth | match if C<$x($_)> > Oh, and BTW: My mailer seems to have snuck some extra noise in there. I think it got confused and tho

Re: Return with no expression

2004-08-21 Thread Matthew Walton
Larry Wall wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 09:21:02AM +0100, Matthew Walton wrote: : It would be nice if rand behaved a bit more sanely in Perl 6. I can : understand the reasoning for making rand 0 produce between 0 and 1, but : that doesn't mean I have to like it. What makes you think there was

Re: "<->" as "->" with automatic "is rw"

2004-08-21 Thread Juerd
Larry Wall skribis 2004-08-20 13:31 (-0700): > Unfortunately I'm not sure it passes the "Are there already too many > ways to declare a sub?" test... I'm not seeing it as another way. Technically, of course it is different, but by the user, <-> and -> will probably be seen as one thing, with one o

Re: A thought for later -- POD tables

2004-08-21 Thread Juerd
> > $_ $xType of Match ImpliedMatching Code > > == = == > > Any Code<$> scalar sub truth match if $x($_) How about making paragraphs that have a line like the divider one above special? By simply parsing the

Re: Synopsis 2 draft 1 -- each and every

2004-08-21 Thread David Green
On 8/20/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luke Palmer) wrote: >So all the laziness goes into the array implementation. But you don't >even need to write your iterator fancily. If you just write your scalar >version of postcircumfix:<>, Perl will do the rest. So if you use an iterator in list context, Perl

Re: "<->" as "->" with automatic "is rw"

2004-08-21 Thread Adam D. Lopresto
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004, Larry Wall wrote: > On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 10:07:02PM +0200, Juerd wrote: > : I'm proposing > : > : for zip(@foos, @bars, @xyzzies) <-> $foo, $bar, $xyzzy { ... } > : for %quux.kv <-> $key, $value { ... } > > That'd probably work on the keys only if the hash was decla

Re: Synopsis 2 draft 1 -- each and every

2004-08-21 Thread Adam D. Lopresto
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004, Dan Hursh wrote: > Peter Behroozi wrote: > > > I'm not particular to any of the verbs used yet, but maybe that's > > because I don't think of the <> as a general iterator, but more of a > > gobbler-type creature (and formerly a globber, too). Could we try: > > > > for $foo.fe

Re: A thought for later -- POD tables

2004-08-21 Thread Aaron Sherman
L:uke, just a note before I reply to you specifically: I understand your concerns, and I have no interest in blurring the line between presentation and markup, which I think ultimately is where your concern comes from. In fact, if you re-read what I wrote (and what I write below), you'll see th