Author: larry
Date: Thu May 11 23:26:34 2006
New Revision: 9208
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S02.pod
doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod
Log:
Cleanup from spinclad++.
Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S02.pod
==
--- doc/t
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 01:50:59AM +0200, Ruud H.G. van Tol wrote:
: Allison Randal schreef:
: > larry:
:
: >> Changed :words/:w to :sigspace/:s and invented ss/// and ms// (or
: >> maybe mm//).
: >
: > I keep expecting 'sigspace' to have something to do signatures.
:
: /me3, since it alliterat
Allison Randal schreef:
> larry:
>> Changed :words/:w to :sigspace/:s and invented ss/// and ms// (or
>> maybe mm//).
>
> I keep expecting 'sigspace' to have something to do signatures.
/me3, since it alliterates with sigsep.
--
Groet, Ruud
Author: larry
Date: Thu May 11 15:39:08 2006
New Revision: 9204
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod
doc/trunk/design/syn/S05.pod
doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod
Log:
Typos.
Tightened up prefix:<*> to match only before sigils and brackets,
so that *foo now always means GLOBAL::foo, and 0.
Smylers wrote:
Allison Randal writes:
I keep expecting 'sigspace' to have something to do signatures.
So do I. How about :litspace for 'literal space'? Except they aren't
exactly literal, because they only indicate where _some_ space has to
be, not that it has to be exactly that sort of spac
Allison Randal writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Log:
> > Changed :words/:w to :sigspace/:s and invented ss/// and ms// (or
> > maybe mm//).
>
> I keep expecting 'sigspace' to have something to do signatures.
So do I. How about :litspace for 'literal space'? Except they aren't
exactly
Larry Wall writes:
> Yes, the false value is False now, just as the true value is not True.
It's not? I thought somebody had just said that it was?
> The reason for changing them is to avoid confusion with the built-in
> true() function,
Makes sense.
> So arguably, we could have a rule or pol
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 02:15:58PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >Log:
> >Changed :words/:w to :sigspace/:s and invented ss/// and ms// (or maybe
> >mm//).
>
> I keep expecting 'sigspace' to have something to do signatures.
I keep thinking that 'sigspace' is the s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Log:
Changed :words/:w to :sigspace/:s and invented ss/// and ms// (or maybe mm//).
I keep expecting 'sigspace' to have something to do signatures.
Larry++ on :s. :)
Allison
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 01:55:37PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote:
: Oh, and since we're calling them "regexes", I suggest calling them
: "regular expressions" too, since both "regex(p)" and "regular
: expression" have taken on the popular meaning of "pattern matching". If
: we're going to be anti-
Oh, and since we're calling them "regexes", I suggest calling them
"regular expressions" too, since both "regex(p)" and "regular
expression" have taken on the popular meaning of "pattern matching". If
we're going to be anti-pedantic, let's be consistently anti-pedantic. :)
Allison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
> Unary C<~> now imposes a string (C) context on its
> argument, and C<+> imposes a numeric (C) context (as opposed to
> being a no-op in Perl 5).
Shouldn't unary minus be mentioned too?
Or would one need C<0-> or C<-+>?
> A reduction operator really is a list op
Author: larry
Date: Thu May 11 13:33:29 2006
New Revision: 9202
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod
Log:
Various clarifications from jerry++ and others
Extra dot is now allowed before hyper postfix since whitespace disallowed there
Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod
==
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 12:19:21PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote:
> Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
> >On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:58:57PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote:
> >>rule:
> >>- Has :ratchet and :skip turned on by default
> >>
> >>- May only be used inside a grammar
> >
> >Should that be
> >
> >- Mu
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
Whitespace in regexes and rules is metasyntactic, in that it is
not matched literally. Effectively what the :w (or :words or
:skip) option does it to change the metasyntactic meaning of
any whitespace found in the regex. Or, another way of thinking
of it -- as S05
Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:58:57PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote:
rule:
- Has :ratchet and :skip turned on by default
- May only be used inside a grammar
Should that be
- Must be declared as part of a grammar or role
???
It is:
- The 'rule' keyword may only be
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 08:57:53PM +0800, Audrey Tang wrote:
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
- is a single character of obligatory whitespace
Hmm, it's literal ' ' (that is, \x20), not "whitespace" in general,
right? For "obligatory whitespace" we have \s.
Oops, you're
Damian Conway wrote:
skip:
- We keep :words as shorthand for :skip(//)
- And :skip is shorthand for :skip(//)
...where defaults to , but is distinct from it (i.e. it can
be redefined independently).
It also has the benefit that developers redefining can call
as one of the alternates i
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 10:24:24AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
> function as a subset type. Constant functions are naturally 0-ary,
> and in C culture tend to be uppercase anyway. So arguably, we could
> have a rule or policy that 0-ary functions are generally uppercase,
> not just the constant one
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 08:09:45AM +0100, Daniel Hulme wrote:
: > qX ::= "q:x:y:z";
: >
: > as a simple, argumentless "word" macro.
: But would that DWIM when I come to write
:
: qX(stuff, specifically not an adverb argument);
:
: ?
Just looking at it, I would expect qX() to call a function
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 07:44:54AM -0400, Elyse M. Grasso wrote:
: Is "but false" now spelled "but False"? If not, if there a reason for the
: asymmetry?
Yes, the false value is False now, just as the true value is not True.
The reason for changing them is to avoid confusion with the built-in
tru
Author: larry
Date: Thu May 11 09:55:36 2006
New Revision: 9197
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S05.pod
Log:
Changed :words/:w to :sigspace/:s and invented ss/// and ms// (or maybe mm//).
Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S05.pod
==
Ruud H.G. van Tol wrote:
> Are all or some of the following equivalent to ?
>
> U+00A0 No-Break Space
> U+202F Narow No-Break Space
> U+FEFF Zero Width No-Break Space
> U+2060 Word Joiner
No. A05 makes it explicit is just \x20, and S05 also says that it
matches one "space char", wh
Audrey Tang wrote:
> Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
>> - is a single character of obligatory whitespace
>
> Hmm, it's literal ' ' (that is, \x20), not "whitespace" in
> general, right? For "obligatory whitespace" we have \s.
Are all or some of the following equivalent to ?
U+00A0 No-Break Space
> >Including :skip(//). Yes, agreed, it's a huge
> >improvement. I'd be more comfortable if the default rule to use for
> >skipping was named instead of . (On IRC was also
> >proposed, but the connection between :skip and is more
> >immediately obvious.)
> Yes, I like too. I too keep mistakel
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 08:57:53PM +0800, Audrey Tang wrote:
> Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> >> - is a single character of obligatory whitespace
>
> Hmm, it's literal ' ' (that is, \x20), not "whitespace" in general,
> right? For "obligatory whitespace" we have \s.
Oops, you're correct, I forgot
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:58:57PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote:
> rule:
> - Has :ratchet and :skip turned on by default
>
> - May only be used inside a grammar
Should that be
- Must be declared as part of a grammar or role
???
The verb "used" doesn't make much sense to me there. I use a rule
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
>> - is a single character of obligatory whitespace
Hmm, it's literal ' ' (that is, \x20), not "whitespace" in general,
right? For "obligatory whitespace" we have \s.
> This one has bugged me since the day I first saw it implemented
> in PGE. We _already_ have \s, , a
On Thursday 11 May 2006 5:52 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> * S06: "but true" is now spelled as "but True"
>
> ...
> return $error but false if $error;
> -return 0 but true;
> +return 0 but True;
> }
>
> Properties are predeclared as roles and implemented
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
> James Mastros:
>> Can I suggest we keep match meaning thing you get when you run a
>> thingy against a string, and make "matcher" be the thingy that gets
>> run?
>
> Speaking of the word "match", what I'd really like is to keep it
> meaning stuff that matches. Unfortu
On 2006-May-10 at 1:38, James Mastros wrote:
>Can I suggest we keep match meaning thing you get when you run a thingy
>against a string, and make "matcher" be the thingy that gets run?
Speaking of the word "match", what I'd really like is to keep it meaning stuff
that matches. Unfortunately it a
Author: autrijus
Date: Thu May 11 02:52:17 2006
New Revision: 9176
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S06.pod
Log:
* S06: "but true" is now spelled as "but True"
Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S06.pod
==
--- doc/trunk/des
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