Re: Update on Larry's talk
Nathan Wiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nathan Torkington wrote: $als_keynote = Dumper($Larry-perl6_design); snicker package Sympathy; sub create { print "We're behind you, $_!\n" } package main; create Sympathy because = RFCs for Larry; Heh, it actually works, too. :-) -Nate P.S. Do we need a perl6-poetry? ;-) Not if that's an example of it. -- Piers
Re: Reading list
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:09:02AM -0700, Carlos Ramirez wrote: The Perl Recommended Reading List has been updated with the latest entries. Suggestions/Comments welcomed. Very nice, both in layout and in function (particularly the comparison prices). There's a danger that the list of booksellers could get unwieldy. Would it be an idea to add amazon.co.uk to the list, (swap .com with .co.uk in the URL I'm told) so that anyone in the UK can buy books supporting the perl mongers without the shipping delay from the states). Or is this already too much, as amazon.de if not amazon.fr should also go in? Nicholas Clark
Re: Reading list
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 03:56:00 -0700, Carlos Ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a listing of 'recommended reading' gathered from this list (provided by Nat). I'm not sure if this will be a permanent place for this link, but for now you can get it here. If i left out a book or if you have a new suggestion you can contact me or post it here and I will add them as soon as i can. http://www.perldoc.com/readinglist.pl This one's double: Compilers,Principles, Techniques and Tools By: Sethi, Ravi / Aho, Alfred V . / Ullman, Jeffrey D . / Addison Wesley ISBN: 0201100886 prices: Fatbrain $69.00 | Borders $60.00 | Amazon $69.00 | Barnes Noble $68.75 | Compilers: Principles, Techniques and Tools. By: Sethi, Ravi / Aho, Alfred V . / Ullman, Jeffrey D . / Addison Wesley ISBN: 0201100886 prices: Borders $60.00 | Fatbrain $69.00 | Amazon $69.00 | Barnes Noble $68.75 | -- H.Merijn Brand Amsterdam Perl Mongers (http://www.amsterdam.pm.org/) using perl-5.005.03, 5.6.0, 5.7.1 516 on HP-UX 10.20 11.00, AIX 4.2 4.3, DEC OSF/1 4.0 and WinNT 4.0 SP-6a, often with Tk800.022 and/or DBD-Unify ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/authors/id/H/HM/HMBRAND/
Re: Reading list
Carlos Ramirez wrote: Here's a listing of 'recommended reading' gathered from this list (provided by Nat). I'm not sure if this will be a permanent place for this link, but for now you can get it here. If i left out a book or if you have a new suggestion you can contact me or post it here and I will add them as soon as i can. http://www.perldoc.com/readinglist.pl Introduction to Algorithms By: Cormen, Thomas H. / Leiserson, Charles E. / Et Al. / McGraw-Hill ISBN: 0070131430 Fatbrain says they cannot get this book but to see at ISBN 0262031418 It seems to be the same book but has a higher price and (Mit Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Series) appended to the title. - Clayton
Re: Reading list
At 09:06 AM 10/12/00 -0400, Clayton Scott wrote: Carlos Ramirez wrote: Here's a listing of 'recommended reading' gathered from this list (provided by Nat). I'm not sure if this will be a permanent place for this link, but for now you can get it here. If i left out a book or if you have a new suggestion you can contact me or post it here and I will add them as soon as i can. http://www.perldoc.com/readinglist.pl Introduction to Algorithms By: Cormen, Thomas H. / Leiserson, Charles E. / Et Al. / McGraw-Hill ISBN: 0070131430 Fatbrain says they cannot get this book but to see at ISBN 0262031418 It seems to be the same book but has a higher price and (Mit Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Series) appended to the title. That second ISBN is the one off the copy I got a month or so ago. Ran ~$80 US, IIRC. Dan --"it's like this"--- Dan Sugalski even samurai [EMAIL PROTECTED] have teddy bears and even teddy bears get drunk
Re: Reading list
Here's a listing of 'recommended reading' gathered from this list (provided by Nat). It seems a little strange that 'Lord of the Rings' is not on the list.
Re: Reading list
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 02:42:24PM +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote: This one's double: Compilers,Principles, Techniques and Tools Compilers: Principles, Techniques and Tools. You should read it twice. -- IBM Pollyanna Principle: Machines should work. People should think.
Re: Reading list
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 11:57:49AM -0400, Mark-Jason Dominus wrote: Here's a listing of 'recommended reading' gathered from this list (provided by Nat). It seems a little strange that 'Lord of the Rings' is not on the list. I would advise against buying the "Millennium Edition" if you want decent quality books. The "hardback" is paperback sized with cheap binding (school library used to rebind paperbacks in this style because getting someone to do this by hand was cheaper than buying a hardback), printed on cheap pulp-fiction type paper, with poor quality printing on some pages. I sent it back. Nicholas Clark
Re: Reading list
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:57:09 +0100, Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 02:42:24PM +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote: This one's double: Compilers,Principles, Techniques and Tools Compilers: Principles, Techniques and Tools. You should read it twice. And pay twice? (Same ISBN). -- H.Merijn Brand Amsterdam Perl Mongers (http://www.amsterdam.pm.org/) using perl-5.005.03, 5.6.0, 5.7.1 516 on HP-UX 10.20 11.00, AIX 4.2 4.3, DEC OSF/1 4.0 and WinNT 4.0 SP-6a, often with Tk800.022 and/or DBD-Unify ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/authors/id/H/HM/HMBRAND/
Re: Reading list
At 03:56 AM 10/11/00 -0700, Carlos Ramirez wrote: Here's a listing of 'recommended reading' gathered from this list (provided by Nat). I'm not sure if this will be a permanent place for this link, but for now you can get it here. If i left out a book or if you have a new suggestion you can contact me or post it here and I will add them as soon as i can. http://www.perldoc.com/readinglist.pl This is nicely done, and thanks. There are two things I was hoping to add to the list: short reasons as to *why* a particular book is on the p6 reading list (The ones on for distinct reasons, like Understanding Comics or Garbage Collection, I'd like differentiated from general CS texts), and categories of books so we can separate the project management from the theory from the general background texts, and suchlike. Doable? Dan --"it's like this"--- Dan Sugalski even samurai [EMAIL PROTECTED] have teddy bears and even teddy bears get drunk
Re: Reading list
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Clayton Scott wrote: Introduction to Algorithms By: Cormen, Thomas H. / Leiserson, Charles E. / Et Al. / McGraw-Hill ISBN: 0070131430 Fatbrain says they cannot get this book but to see at ISBN 0262031418 It seems to be the same book but has a higher price and (Mit Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Series) appended to the title. Amazon list 3 versions, 2 available now (McGraw Hill: ISBN: 0070131430 and MIT Press; ISBN: 0262031418) and a new edition to be published in July 2001 (ISBN: 0070131511) -- Tim Jenness JCMT software engineer/Support scientist http://www.jach.hawaii.edu/~timj
Re: Reading list
This sounds very doable. I will include the why's of why the book was recommended (basically a copy of the submitter's comments). Categorizing sounds like a good idea. If the list grows any longer, we'll be scrolling for years. The categories you suggested looks like a good start: Project Management, Theory and General. It'll be best to keep the category list to a very minimum. So if anyone has a better category list please post your suggestions before I get home and start implementing my templates ;) -Carlos --Original Message-- From: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Carlos Ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 12, 2000 4:23:29 PM GMT Subject: Re: Reading list At 03:56 AM 10/11/00 -0700, Carlos Ramirez wrote: Here's a listing of 'recommended reading' gathered from this list (provided by Nat). I'm not sure if this will be a permanent place for this link, but for now you can get it here. If i left out a book or if you have a new suggestion you can contact me or post it here and I will add them as soon as i can. http://www.perldoc.com/readinglist.pl This is nicely done, and thanks. There are two things I was hoping to add to the list: short reasons as to *why* a particular book is on the p6 reading list (The ones on for distinct reasons, like Understanding Comics or Garbage Collection, I'd like differentiated from general CS texts), and categories of books so we can separate the project management from the theory from the general background texts, and suchlike. Doable? Dan --"it's like this"--- Dan Sugalski even samurai [EMAIL PROTECTED] have teddy bears and even teddy bears get drunk
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