Re: What's a PDD for the rest of us?

2000-12-06 Thread Dan Sugalski

At 03:08 PM 12/6/00 -0500, Bryan C. Warnock wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Dec 2000, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> > Well, until Larry releases the spec, just about everything else is frozen,
> > though we can certainly expand the PDD stuff to include the standard
> > library, documentation, and QA stuff. (It seems a tad premature to be
> > proposing language changes when we neither have a final language spec nor
> > an implementation of that spec...) PDDs don't have to be all internal--I
> > changed the name to deal with the confusion with the IETF's RFCs. (We were
> > fast creeping up on the active RFC range)
>
>Understood.  One other quick question.  Are the PDDs expect to go terminal at
>the delivery of Perl 6, or should the active PDDs continue to evolve and 
>govern Perl 6 maintenance as well?  (If that makes any sense.)

I want them to continue, though whether they do depends on who has the 
magic sucker hat once things go final. It's my intent that anyone who wants 
to get complete documentation for X (where X could be the parser API, or 
the vtable API, or the guaranteed behaviour of the GC, or the PerlIO API 
and required behaviour) can grab the PDD covering it and be set.

Something, more or less, like the IETF standards RFCs, only with revisions 
of each PDD rather than a half zillion "supercedes or upgrades" RFCs.

Dan

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Re: What's a PDD for the rest of us?

2000-12-06 Thread Bryan C. Warnock

On Wed, 06 Dec 2000, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> Well, until Larry releases the spec, just about everything else is frozen, 
> though we can certainly expand the PDD stuff to include the standard 
> library, documentation, and QA stuff. (It seems a tad premature to be 
> proposing language changes when we neither have a final language spec nor 
> an implementation of that spec...) PDDs don't have to be all internal--I 
> changed the name to deal with the confusion with the IETF's RFCs. (We were 
> fast creeping up on the active RFC range)

Understood.  One other quick question.  Are the PDDs expect to go terminal at
the delivery of Perl 6, or should the active PDDs continue to evolve and govern
Perl 6 maintenance as well?  (If that makes any sense.)

 -- 
Bryan C. Warnock
RABA Technologies



Re: What's a PDD for the rest of us?

2000-12-06 Thread Dan Sugalski

At 02:39 PM 12/6/00 -0500, Bryan C. Warnock wrote:
>In http://www.mail-archive.com/perl6-internals@perl.org/msg01766.html,
>Dan outlined rev 2 of the RFC process, PDD (Perl Design Docs).
>
>Everything seems rather specific to internals - will there be a separate
>mechanism in place for all-things non-internal, say, for instance, the format
>for a non-internal mechanism mirroring the PDD?

Well, until Larry releases the spec, just about everything else is frozen, 
though we can certainly expand the PDD stuff to include the standard 
library, documentation, and QA stuff. (It seems a tad premature to be 
proposing language changes when we neither have a final language spec nor 
an implementation of that spec...) PDDs don't have to be all internal--I 
changed the name to deal with the confusion with the IETF's RFCs. (We were 
fast creeping up on the active RFC range)

Dan

--"it's like this"---
Dan Sugalski  even samurai
[EMAIL PROTECTED] have teddy bears and even
  teddy bears get drunk