Re: weirdness with subset on has

At a quick glance, looks like a bug to me. Worth opening a ticket on https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo Best regards, Vadim Belman > On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:15 PM, Joseph Brenner wrote: > > Moving the definition of the subset outside of the class > covers for the weird behavior... > > my

Re: weirdness with subset on has

Okay, I opened a github issue: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/3421 On 1/13/20, Vadim Belman wrote: > At a quick glance, looks like a bug to me. Worth opening a ticket on > https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo > > Best regards, > Vadim Belman > >> On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:15 PM, Joseph

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 06:17, Brad Gilbert wrote: According to the description you copied, a cardinal can never be zero.     any of the numbers     that express amount, as one, two, three, etc. So it is more accurate to call it an integer. Hi Brad, Are you referring to "any of the numbers that

Re: rakudo.org outdated?

On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:59:43 -0800 yary wrote: > I downloaded the Rakudo Star 2019.11-rc1 source installer from > https://dist.tyil.nl/raku/rakudo-star/ and built it on OS X 10.15.2 > "Catalina", rakudo-test complains about Native Call, and also that a > couple TODO's pass > > *Test Summary

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

According to the description you copied, a cardinal can never be zero. any of the numbers that express amount, as one, two, three, etc. So it is more accurate to call it an integer. On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 1:32 AM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > On

Fw: [perl-foundation-outreach] Applications open tomorrow

Anyone with ideas for the Google Summer of Code, please share them! If you don't have a GitHub account (or don't want to do the effort of getting a PR merged), you can share them on the ML or in private mail, and I'll do my best to get them on the GitHub repository. Begin forwarded message: On

Bug in the documentation

Hi All, https://docs.raku.org/type/UInt Type Graph Type relations for 404 The chart is 404 missing To fix this, Raku can use the chart from https://docs.perl6.org/type/UInt https://docs.perl6.org/images/type-graph-UInt.svg Picky, Picky, Picky :-) -T

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

Ok looking into it, zero is inside of the set of cardinal numbers. It is still wrong to call a uint a cardinal number. It's just wrong for a different reason. Looking through various definitions, a cardinal number is a number which represents a count of sets. So a uint could be used to

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 12:56, Brad Gilbert wrote: Ok looking into it, zero is inside of the set of cardinal numbers. It is still wrong to call a uint a cardinal number. It's just wrong for a different reason. Looking through various definitions, a cardinal number is a number which represents a count

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 14:22, The Sidhekin wrote: Your use of the term "uint" in reference to "UInt" is what makes me think so.   uint and UInt are different types – conceptually related, but with no type relation between them –

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 8:51 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > On 2020-01-13 11:10, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: > > > > https://docs.raku.org/type/UInt > > Subset UInt > > Unsigned integer (arbitrary-precision) > > The UInt is defined as a subset

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 12:43, The Sidhekin wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 8:51 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: On 2020-01-13 11:10,

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 11:10, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: https://docs.raku.org/type/UInt    Subset UInt    Unsigned integer (arbitrary-precision)    The UInt is defined as a subset of Int:    my subset UInt of Int where {not .defined or $_ >= 0};    Consequently, it cannot be instantiated 

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:46 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > On 2020-01-13 12:43, The Sidhekin wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 8:51 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < > perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > >> In https://docs.raku.org/type/UInt, a cardinal (uint) >>

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 16:58, The Sidhekin wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:25 AM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>> wrote: On 2020-01-13 15:16, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: > The way you consistently mixed up uint and Uint in the last hours, > despite

Autoboxing

Hi All, https://docs.raku.org/language/numerics#Auto-boxing https://docs.raku.org/language/nativetypes#Types_with_native_representation_and_size I think I have uncovered a misunderstanding on my part. I use to believe if you did not tell a variable what its size was, that it was figured out on

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 18:46, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: On 2020-01-13 17:13, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: And, no one is telling me percisely what the difference between UInt and uint is other than one is a subset of Int and the other is a native type.  They act exactly the same. Hi

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

>> trying to find the constraints explanation in the documentation: https://docs.raku.org/language/nativetypes "Raku offers a set of *native* types with a fixed, and known, representation in memory" and "However, these types do not necessarily have the size that is required by the NativeCall

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 20:09, Aureliano Guedes wrote: About the Raku typing, suppose I'll write a library to deal with data frames/tables (as PDL - Perl(5) Data Language), something like Pandas-Python or R. After reading the file (csv; tsv ) I'd like that some routine identifies the best type to

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:25 AM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users < perl6-users@perl.org> wrote: > On 2020-01-13 15:16, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: > > The way you consistently mixed up uint and Uint in the last hours, > > despite having been warned about this mistake, also shows a lack

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

About the Raku typing, suppose I'll write a library to deal with data frames/tables (as PDL - Perl(5) Data Language), something like Pandas-Python or R. After reading the file (csv; tsv ) I'd like that some routine identifies the best type to fix each column (especially in cases like Unit,

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

>> what is the best strategy? My general rule of thumb: If you control the value then you can pick whatever data type that has the largest number of bits to hold your largest value.[1] If you don't control the value, stick with an Int (or Uint). If you stick with Int you can later modify it to

bitwise NOT

Hi All, This works, $ p6 'my uint8 $c = 0xA5; my uint8 $d = +^$c; say $d.base(16);' 5A But this does not: $ p6 'my uint8 $c = 0xA5; say (+^$c).base(16);' -A6 1) who turned it into an negative integer? 2) how do I turn it back? Many thanks, -T

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

> What makes you think I did not understand the documentation? Your own record over the last years shows that you very often don't understand documentation (and I actually sometimes wonder whether you're even really interested in trying to understand it). Your disdain for the documentation just

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 15:16, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: Your own record over the last years shows that you very often don't understand documentation (and I actually sometimes wonder whether you're even really interested in trying to understand it). Actually, I go there a lot and I tear

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 17:13, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: And, no one is telling me percisely what the difference between UInt and uint is other than one is a subset of Int and the other is a native type.  They act exactly the same. Hi All, Off line, Paul told me what the difference is between

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

ToddAndMargo, this should handle any kind of columns separated data (or any table). If some column (commonly separated with a constant character as "\t", ";", "|", ) has different types (char, text, int, boolean, ...) in a single column, then it should be treated as a character, but if it has

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 9:51 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>> wrote: On 2020-01-13 18:46, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: > On 2020-01-13 17:13, ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: >> And, no one is telling me percisely what the difference >>

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 22:56, Darren Duncan wrote: Brad is saying what I've been saying, while a uint CAN represent a cardinal number, one does NOT ALWAYS represent a cardinal number, so saying this only IS a cardinal number is WRONG. -- Darren Duncan Hi Darren, You are mixing specific data

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 21:02, Aureliano Guedes wrote: ToddAndMargo, this should handle any kind of columns separated data (or any table). If some column (commonly separated with a constant character as "\t", ";", "|", )  has different types (char, text, int, boolean, ...) in a single column, then

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

Brad is saying what I've been saying, while a uint CAN represent a cardinal number, one does NOT ALWAYS represent a cardinal number, so saying this only IS a cardinal number is WRONG. -- Darren Duncan On 2020-01-13 12:56 p.m., Brad Gilbert wrote: Ok looking into it, zero is inside of the set

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-12 11:32 p.m., ToddAndMargo via perl6-users wrote: On 2020-01-12 20:03, Darren Duncan wrote: A uint32 is NOT specifically a cardinal. Since a uint32 ca not be negative or a fraction, it is a cardinal.  Other operating system do call them cardinals, such as Modula2. Pascal, C++ (I

Re: bitwise NOT

If you read the signature for +^, you'll notice it returns an Int. In your first working example, you're taking a uint8 with binary value 10100101, zero extending it to 64 bits via +^, applying a two's compliment, and then assigning bits [0:7] to another uint8 which at that point contains the

Re: bitwise NOT

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:30 PM ToddAndMargo via perl6-users mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>> wrote: Hi All, This works, $ p6 'my uint8 $c = 0xA5; my uint8 $d = +^$c; say $d.base(16);' 5A But this does not: $ p6 'my uint8 $c = 0xA5; say

Re: Bug to report: cardinal called an integer

On 2020-01-13 21:02, Aureliano Guedes wrote: ToddAndMargo, this should handle any kind of columns separated data (or any table). If some column (commonly separated with a constant character as "\t", ";", "|", )  has different types (char, text, int, boolean, ...) in a single column, then