Re: Perl 6 Advocacy Suggestion

2016-01-20 Thread webmind
Great idea! I always thought Perl in general was quite suited for show casing and learning with different styles and ways of solving problems. It's flexibility is a key element in that. Especially in CS, students need to learn that there is more then one way to do it and be able to compare those d

Re: Perl 6 Advocacy Suggestion

2016-01-20 Thread B. Estrade
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > Last year I mentioned a letter-to-the-editor in Communications of the > ACM which discussed the short-comings of Python as an introduction to > programming for computer science students. As a response to that > letter, I suggested that the di

Re: Perl 6 Advocacy Suggestion

2016-01-20 Thread Tom Browder
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Andrew Kirkpatrick wrote: ... > That said I don't think that those fine folk on Perlmonks are all that correct about the lack of a business case for Perl6, and the degree to > which they are will fall significantly in the next few years. Already ... > Businesses

Re: Perl 6 Advocacy Suggestion

2016-01-20 Thread Andrew Kirkpatrick
I agree that getting Perl6 into the curricula is a good idea, and comparing it to Python if done reasonably and politely would help the cause of those who want to migrate their course over. That said I don't think that those fine folk on Perlmonks are all that correct about the lack of a business

Re: Perl 6 Advocacy Suggestion

2016-01-19 Thread vijayvithal jahagirdar
I agree, perl6 can be the glue language in academics which can be used to showcase different computing concepts, be it methodologies - functional, oops,procedural -, parallelism, VM, antlr etc. On Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 2:29 AM Peter Scott wrote: > I have seen Damian demonstrate how Perl 6 can be th

Re: Perl 6 Advocacy Suggestion

2016-01-19 Thread Peter Scott
I have seen Damian demonstrate how Perl 6 can be the best language for teaching functional, procedural, and object-oriented programming. On 1/19/2016 10:37 AM, Darren Duncan wrote: I very much agree with this idea, of arguing Perl 6 as a teaching language. Academia are the ones that would appre

Re: Perl 6 Advocacy Suggestion

2016-01-19 Thread Darren Duncan
I very much agree with this idea, of arguing Perl 6 as a teaching language. Academia are the ones that would appreciate what Perl 6 offers the most in the short term, whereas industry would demand a higher standard for it becoming popular. And the first can lead to the second. -- Darren Duncan

Re: Perl 6 Advocacy Suggestion

2016-01-19 Thread Parrot Raiser
I believe Damian Conway thinks P6 would be a very good CS teaching language. On 1/19/16, Tom Browder wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Steve Mynott > wrote: >> I think targeting Perl 6 at CS academic teachers is an excellent idea >> as a way of generally promoting use of the language. >

Re: Perl 6 Advocacy Suggestion

2016-01-19 Thread Tom Browder
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Steve Mynott wrote: > I think targeting Perl 6 at CS academic teachers is an excellent idea > as a way of generally promoting use of the language. > > But I'd be wary of "bashing" current choices such as Python and don't > believe any objective comparison of the t

Re: Perl 6 Advocacy Suggestion

2016-01-19 Thread Steve Mynott
I think targeting Perl 6 at CS academic teachers is an excellent idea as a way of generally promoting use of the language. But I'd be wary of "bashing" current choices such as Python and don't believe any objective comparison of the two languages is possible. Python is in any case derived from AB

Re: Perl 6 Advocacy Suggestion

2016-01-19 Thread Tom Browder
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:06 AM, yary wrote: > Good idea. Not sure if it needs to compare with Python explicitly. The > message is that it's a great language for learning programming on its > own; the reader can see that from the positive examples given and make > any comparisons to other languag

Re: Perl 6 Advocacy Suggestion

2016-01-19 Thread yary
Good idea. Not sure if it needs to compare with Python explicitly. The message is that it's a great language for learning programming on its own; the reader can see that from the positive examples given and make any comparisons to other languages while reading. No need to give space away to any oth