[PersianComputing] [offtopic] Arax 0.1 released under GPL

2003-10-28 Thread Masuod
Arax is an English to Persian Dictionary with more
than 50,000 definitions, including phrases, written in
python/gtk.

Arax is open source/free software;you can
redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of
the GNU General Public License

I have nothing to say now, just go and try it.
arax website : http://arax.m2ix.com

Masoud

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Re: [PersianComputing] [offtopic] Arax 0.1 released under GPL

2003-10-28 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Dear Masoud,

Apparently the first question is:  Where the data has come from?
AFAICS it is the poor Arianpour Dictionary's data.

I hereby ask you to remove all GPL related notices and stuff from
your work, for a couple of important reasons:

  * You are distributing a large amount of COPYRIGHTED data
without permission to do that (or you have not stated your
permission).

  * GNU GPL requires you to distribute the source code, but you
are releasing the data in .sqlite format which by definition is
not the source.  (If you have ever read the GPL, it defines: The
source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for
making modifications to it, and this is not the case for what you
are releasing)

Actually unless you resolve the first problem, you are stealing
copyrighted data.  After that, you can think about the second
problem.

Very sad that GPL has become a luxury for some people.

Behdad Esfahbod
Maintainer of GNU FriBidi
http://behdad.org/


On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Masuod wrote:

 Arax is an English to Persian Dictionary with more
 than 50,000 definitions, including phrases, written in
 python/gtk.

 Arax is open source/free software;you can
 redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of
 the GNU General Public License

 I have nothing to say now, just go and try it.
 arax website : http://arax.m2ix.com

 Masoud
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Re: [PersianComputing] [offtopic] Arax 0.1 released under GPL

2003-10-28 Thread Behdad Esfahbod

In the mean while, Masoud contacted me off the list, saying that
he has removed GPL, because of the first reason below.  BTW,
about the second one, he told me that it is actually the source
he has.

Thanks Masoud.

A Happier Now Behdad ;)

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:

 Dear Masoud,

 Apparently the first question is:  Where the data has come from?
 AFAICS it is the poor Arianpour Dictionary's data.

 I hereby ask you to remove all GPL related notices and stuff from
 your work, for a couple of important reasons:

   * You are distributing a large amount of COPYRIGHTED data
 without permission to do that (or you have not stated your
 permission).

   * GNU GPL requires you to distribute the source code, but you
 are releasing the data in .sqlite format which by definition is
 not the source.  (If you have ever read the GPL, it defines: The
 source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for
 making modifications to it, and this is not the case for what you
 are releasing)

 Actually unless you resolve the first problem, you are stealing
 copyrighted data.  After that, you can think about the second
 problem.

 Very sad that GPL has become a luxury for some people.

 Behdad Esfahbod
 Maintainer of GNU FriBidi
 http://behdad.org/


 On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Masuod wrote:

  Arax is an English to Persian Dictionary with more
  than 50,000 definitions, including phrases, written in
  python/gtk.
 
  Arax is open source/free software;you can
  redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of
  the GNU General Public License
 
  I have nothing to say now, just go and try it.
  arax website : http://arax.m2ix.com
 
  Masoud


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Re: [PersianComputing] [offtopic] Arax 0.1 released under GPL

2003-10-28 Thread masouds
Behdad,
How hard is it to contact the copyright holder to release their data 
and/or put it under GPL?
I believe that I have seen this dictionary data set in 5 different 
dictionaries (and all claimed that are based on Mr. ArianPour's). Not 
that copying copyrighted material without permission becomes legal after 
5 (or whatever) times, but it'd be nice to add this to a set of GPL 
software usable by an average 'Akbar agha, Persian Linux user'.

cheers,
Masoud A. Sharbiani (not the other one!)
Behdad Esfahbod wrote:

Dear Masoud,

Apparently the first question is:  Where the data has come from?
AFAICS it is the poor Arianpour Dictionary's data.
I hereby ask you to remove all GPL related notices and stuff from
your work, for a couple of important reasons:
 * You are distributing a large amount of COPYRIGHTED data
without permission to do that (or you have not stated your
permission).
 * GNU GPL requires you to distribute the source code, but you
are releasing the data in .sqlite format which by definition is
not the source.  (If you have ever read the GPL, it defines: The
source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for
making modifications to it, and this is not the case for what you
are releasing)
Actually unless you resolve the first problem, you are stealing
copyrighted data.  After that, you can think about the second
problem.
Very sad that GPL has become a luxury for some people.

Behdad Esfahbod
Maintainer of GNU FriBidi
http://behdad.org/
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Masuod wrote:

 

Arax is an English to Persian Dictionary with more
than 50,000 definitions, including phrases, written in
python/gtk.
Arax is open source/free software;you can
redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of
the GNU General Public License
I have nothing to say now, just go and try it.
arax website : http://arax.m2ix.com
Masoud
   

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Re: [PersianComputing] [offtopic] Arax 0.1 released under GPL

2003-10-28 Thread Behdad Esfahbod

The copyright holder is trying to make a business out of that.  I
have seen their CDs in Enghelab for a range of 5 to 15 thousand
Tomans I guess (those with or without translator), and it's not
easy to persuade a complany (whatever personal it want to be) to
release their main work free of charge.

If you are going to give it a try, I recommend you try on Farhang
Moaser publications, to release their Bateni English-Persian
dictionary, which is far better than Aryanpour in action.

behdad

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, masouds wrote:

 Behdad,
 How hard is it to contact the copyright holder to release their data
 and/or put it under GPL?
 I believe that I have seen this dictionary data set in 5 different
 dictionaries (and all claimed that are based on Mr. ArianPour's). Not
 that copying copyrighted material without permission becomes legal after
 5 (or whatever) times, but it'd be nice to add this to a set of GPL
 software usable by an average 'Akbar agha, Persian Linux user'.

 cheers,
 Masoud A. Sharbiani (not the other one!)


 Behdad Esfahbod wrote:

 Dear Masoud,
 
 Apparently the first question is:  Where the data has come from?
 AFAICS it is the poor Arianpour Dictionary's data.
 
 I hereby ask you to remove all GPL related notices and stuff from
 your work, for a couple of important reasons:
 
   * You are distributing a large amount of COPYRIGHTED data
 without permission to do that (or you have not stated your
 permission).
 
   * GNU GPL requires you to distribute the source code, but you
 are releasing the data in .sqlite format which by definition is
 not the source.  (If you have ever read the GPL, it defines: The
 source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for
 making modifications to it, and this is not the case for what you
 are releasing)
 
 Actually unless you resolve the first problem, you are stealing
 copyrighted data.  After that, you can think about the second
 problem.
 
 Very sad that GPL has become a luxury for some people.
 
 Behdad Esfahbod
 Maintainer of GNU FriBidi
 http://behdad.org/
 
 
 On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Masuod wrote:
 
 
 
 Arax is an English to Persian Dictionary with more
 than 50,000 definitions, including phrases, written in
 python/gtk.
 
 Arax is open source/free software;you can
 redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of
 the GNU General Public License
 
 I have nothing to say now, just go and try it.
 arax website : http://arax.m2ix.com
 
 Masoud
 
 
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Re: [PersianComputing] [offtopic] Arax 0.1 released under GPL

2003-10-28 Thread Behnam Esfahbod
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:

 If you are going to give it a try, I recommend you try on Farhang
 Moaser publications, to release their Bateni English-Persian
 dictionary, which is far better than Aryanpour in action.

As I know, Farhang-e Hezareh (also from Moaser publications) is more 
better. ;)

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