Re: [pestlist] "Forest Debris" and Possible Pests

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Challenging problem.  I have a few questions:
- Do you already have an effective IPM program going on in the museum?  If
you do have recurrent pests, what are they?
- How long is the duration of this installation?
- How close can people get up to it?
- Is it in direct line with an air register?

I have to respectfully disagree with the plexi vitrine suggestion as I
doubt that the artist would accept it.  It would negate the concept of
'impermanence' of the piece and be visually intrusive.  I do advocate for
plexi glazing on paintings in public buildings and sites, and for barriers
to objects and art objects, but it might not be warranted in this case.  It
would certainly create a separation between the two components of the work.


Paul Storch


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> No beetle questions this time! An artist has proposed an installation that
> is going to include “forest fire debris” (please see attached image). The
> artist has described said “debris” as such:
>
>
>
> “…the ‘debris’ is more or less charcoal and silk, piled in a line about 6”
> high directly beneath the photo. It is the charcoal remains of the forest
> that appears in the photo, so it is essential to the concept of the piece.
> Some of the charcoal retains the shape of pine needles, cones, bark,
> branches or wood. It is fragile and can be crushed by hand. The brown bits
> you see in the picture are charred pieces of silk from the bottom edge of
> the photo. There are no leaves or wood chips.
>
> The charcoal bits have been re-burned and subjected to multiple
> freeze-thaw cycles. The material was screened after cooling down to remove
> ash and fine dust. The reality is that both the charcoal and silk are very
> fragile and can be pulverized in handling as well as shipping which can
> result in dust.”
>
>
>
> Obviously there are many concerns about this installation. The artist
> claims to have done freeze-thaw cycles but how much would this actually
> help in regards to keeping pests *away*. Certainly it could rid the
> “debris” of any bugs that might be in there at present…but what about
> prevention? We have a prohibited items list that we use for flower
> arrangements and pine cones, bark, branches and wood (unless it has been
> treated) are prohibited. But I am not so sure about these items after they
> have been burned. This work has mainly been in galleries in the past…and I
> think this is the first time it is coming into a museum so I don’t have any
> institutions that I can contact to see what they had did during install and
> the duration of the exhibition. I am hoping that we could make this work,
> but no matter how I look at it this install seems like it can’t happen.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any experience with dealing with piles of charcoal? Are
> there any pests that would be attracted to this material, would they be the
> same types that are attracted to wood and plant matter even though this
> material has been burned down to charcoal? Obviously the dust is also a
> concern because of our HVAC system…but that is a whole separate issue. I am
> trying to arm myself with information so that if/when I have to go to the
> curator to tell him it is a no go I will have documentation and perhaps
> even examples.
>
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Erika
>
>
>
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>
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RE: [pestlist] "Forest Debris" and Possible Pests

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Erika,

Ah! My concerns would be about the same as yours: potential for 
pests (new and existing even with past treatment), dust, and additionally 
people. I don't know how much the charcoal would be of interest to pests but 
the unburnt/partially burnt items may. The image shows well burned items but 
there may be some parts that still have enough to be of interest to pests. The 
silk is the same concern as if you had silk items in your collection in my 
opinion, monitor and be careful. This would honestly be my least concern for 
this piece. The dust from the charcoal would worry me. Disaster response 
literature or those that have participated in a response effort for a fire will 
note how charcoal dust and soot gets EVERYWHERE. As it is so fine it can get 
ingrained into just about anything very easily. Granted this will be much more 
controlled than the dust/soot from a fire but I feel it would travel easily. 
That leads to my last point of people. People will touch the charcoal. I want 
to say especially children but as I'm sure everyone has seen adults are just as 
bad. After they touch the charcoal they will do their best effort to touch 
everything within reach, especially if its collection items. This would be my 
biggest concern.

Would it be possible to have the charcoal and burnt silk in a 
Plexiglas box? Off the top of my head, a base of Plexiglas, the artist or staff 
arrange the charcoal and burnt silk on the base and then a Plexiglas lid is 
placed over top, possibly within a shallow recess so the lid can't easily slide 
off? While this isn't impenetrable it would certainly drastically reduce any 
concerns and would minimally affect the aesthetic of the piece.

Good luck!

William Shepherd
Collections Officer
Swift Current Museum
44 Robert Street West
Swift Current, Saskatchewan
S9H 4M9
Phone: 306-778-4815
Fax: 306-778-4818

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Hello once again!

No beetle questions this time! An artist has proposed an installation that is 
going to include "forest fire debris" (please see attached image). The artist 
has described said "debris" as such:

"...the 'debris' is more or less charcoal and silk, piled in a line about 6" 
high directly beneath the photo. It is the charcoal remains of the forest that 
appears in the photo, so it is essential to the concept of the piece. Some of 
the charcoal retains the shape of pine needles, cones, bark, branches or wood. 
It is fragile and can be crushed by hand. The brown bits you see in the picture 
are charred pieces of silk from the bottom edge of the photo. There are no 
leaves or wood chips.
The charcoal bits have been re-burned and subjected to multiple freeze-thaw 
cycles. The material was screened after cooling down to remove ash and fine 
dust. The reality is that both the charcoal and silk are very fragile and can 
be pulverized in handling as well as shipping which can result in dust."

Obviously there are many concerns about this installation. The artist claims to 
have done freeze-thaw cycles but how much would this actually help in regards 
to keeping pests away. Certainly it could rid the "debris" of any bugs that 
might be in there at present...but what about prevention? We have a prohibited 
items list that we use for flower arrangements and pine cones, bark, branches 
and wood (unless it has been treated) are prohibited. But I am not so sure 
about these items after they have been burned. This work has mainly been in 
galleries in the past...and I think this is the first time it is coming into a 
museum so I don't have any institutions that I can contact to see what they had 
did during install and the duration of the exhibition. I am hoping that we 
could make this work, but no matter how I look at it this install seems like it 
can't happen.

Does anyone have any experience with dealing with piles of charcoal? Are there 
any pests that would be attracted to this material, would they be the same 
types that are attracted to wood and plant matter even though this material has 
been burned down to charcoal? Obviously the dust is also a concern because of 
our HVAC system...but that is a whole separate issue. I am trying to arm myself 
with information so that 

RE: [pestlist] ID query

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Alan et al.,
One more thought. Thrips have an odd tendency to sample most any substrate with 
their piercing mouthparts. I anticipate that they figure (if they are capable 
of thought) that whatever they’re perched upon is a plant and might contain 
tasty plant juices. I frequently receive complaints from folks who have been at 
the wrong end of those piercing mouthparts. I imagine the thrips is as 
surprised as is the victim, and perhaps a bit mortified to have hit blood or 
mammalian tissue fluid. “What the heck is this thing biting me” is a common 
utterance of those who’ve suffered from thrips contact. The problem tends to be 
seasonal and is frequently associated with proximity to farms, orchards or 
flower gardens. Thrips and other flying insects are disoriented by artificial 
lights, and may thereby enter our dwellings. The bites are annoying but of no 
real concern unless you have chlorophyll flowing through your veins. In those 
cases, you might worry about contracting some thrips-vectored plant pathogens.
-Rich

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Thank you!  Predacious or plant eater, at least I know a thrips won't mess with 
collection material.

Thanks,

Alan

Alan P. Van Dyke
Preservation Technician
Harry Ransom Center
The University of Texas at Austin
P.O. Drawer 7219
Austin, TX 78713-7219
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Some thrips species are predaceous, too.  Note singular and plural spellings of 
thrips and species.



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Entomophagy Research

Division of Invertebrate Zoology | American Museum of Natural History

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That’s a thrips. Note, that thrips is the correct singular and plural form for 
insects of this insect order.  They’re pests of living plants. Most often they 
fly or wander in through open windows and doors. Many are small enough to pass 
through intact standard window screens. They should pose no concern to museum 
holdings…. unless your facility has valuable living plants that may be 
considered desirable to these insects.

-Rich

Richard J. Pollack, PhD
HARVARD UNIVERSITY
Environmental Health, Safety and Emergency Management (EHSEM)
Senior Environmental Public Health Officer
46 Blackstone St.
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SV: [pestlist] ID query

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Hallo Alan,

We often see that thrips work their way inside framed works of art on paper or 
canvas, dying there and leaving tiny spots of discoloration.
A small  nuisance, but nonetheless disfiguring when their numbers are high.

Simon Schölch
Conservation Technician
 
Bevaringscenter Fyn
v/Langelands Museum

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Denmark
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Hello all, 

Attached is a photo of a small insect that has been cropping up lately in some 
of my sticky traps.  It's about a millimeter in length.  Anyone recognize it?

Thanks,

Alan


Alan P. Van Dyke
Preservation Technician
Harry Ransom Center
The University of Texas at Austin
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Thank you!  Predacious or plant eater, at least I know a thrips won't mess
with collection material.

Thanks,

Alan

*Alan P. Van Dyke*
Preservation Technician
Harry Ransom Center
The University of Texas at Austin
P.O. Drawer 7219
Austin, TX 78713-7219
P: 512-232-4614
www.hrc.utexas.edu

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> spellings of thrips and species.
>
>
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>
> Entomophagy Research
>
> Division of Invertebrate Zoology | American Museum of Natural History
>
> Central Park West at 79th Street | New York, New York 10024-5192
>
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>
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> fax
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> That’s a thrips. Note, that thrips is the correct singular and plural form
> for insects of this insect order.  They’re pests of living plants. Most
> often they fly or wander in through open windows and doors. Many are small
> enough to pass through intact standard window screens. They should pose no
> concern to museum holdings…. unless your facility has valuable living
> plants that may be considered desirable to these insects.
>
>
>
> -Rich
>
>
>
> *Richard J. Pollack, PhD*
>
> *HARVARD UNIVERSITY*
>
> Environmental Health, Safety and Emergency Management (EHSEM)
>
> Senior Environmental Public Health Officer
>
> 46 Blackstone St.
>
> Cambridge, MA 02139
>
> *Office*: 617-495-2995 <(617)%20495-2995>  *Cell*: 617-447-0763
> <(617)%20447-0763>
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> richard_poll...@harvard.edu
>
>
>
> *Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health*
>
> Instructor, Department of Immunology & Infectious Disease
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Attached is a photo of a small insect that has been cropping up lately in
> some of my sticky traps.  It's about a millimeter in length.  Anyone
> recognize it?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
> * Alan P. Van Dyke*
>
> Preservation Technician
>
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> The University of Texas at Austin
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That’s a thrips. Note, that thrips is the correct singular and plural form for 
insects of this insect order.  They’re pests of living plants. Most often they 
fly or wander in through open windows and doors. Many are small enough to pass 
through intact standard window screens. They should pose no concern to museum 
holdings…. unless your facility has valuable living plants that may be 
considered desirable to these insects.

-Rich

Richard J. Pollack, PhD
HARVARD UNIVERSITY
Environmental Health, Safety and Emergency Management (EHSEM)
Senior Environmental Public Health Officer
46 Blackstone St.
Cambridge, MA 02139
Office: 617-495-2995  Cell: 617-447-0763
www.ehs.harvard.edu
richard_poll...@harvard.edu

Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Instructor, Department of Immunology & Infectious Disease



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Hello all,

Attached is a photo of a small insect that has been cropping up lately in some 
of my sticky traps.  It's about a millimeter in length.  Anyone recognize it?

Thanks,

Alan


Alan P. Van Dyke
Preservation Technician
Harry Ransom Center
The University of Texas at Austin
P.O. Drawer 7219
Austin, TX 78713-7219
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[pestlist] mouse trap bait

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Hi everyone,

I am looking for suggestions for bait for snap trap style mouse traps in our 
collections storage areas. We previously used peanut butter with some success, 
but concerns have been raised about potential staff and visitor allergies due 
to the peanut butter potentially being spread around and urinated out by the 
mice who escape the traps. I read somewhere that gummy bears might work as 
bait, but that was in the context of rat traps and I have not yet tried them 
for mice. (Thankfully, we don't have a rat problem!). Obviously, I would prefer 
a solution that will not add to our insect pest issues. Total exclusion of mice 
is difficult if not impossible as we are in an old building with an infinite 
number of possible entry points.

Dee

Dee Stubbs-Lee, CAPC, MA
Conservator / Restauratrice
New Brunswick Museum/
Musée du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Avenue
Saint John, New Brunswick
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RE: [pestlist] mouse trap bait

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Sometimes cotton can be effective as a substitute for a food based bait.. Mice 
will use it to line their nests.
Tony


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Hi everyone,
 
I am looking for suggestions for bait for snap trap style mouse traps in our 
collections storage areas. We previously used peanut butter with some success, 
but concerns have been raised about potential staff and visitor allergies due to
 the peanut butter potentially being spread around and urinated out by the mice 
who escape the traps. I read somewhere that gummy bears might work as bait, but 
that was in the context of rat traps and I have not yet tried them for mice. 
(Thankfully, we don’t
 have a rat problem!). Obviously, I would prefer a solution that will not add 
to our insect pest issues. Total exclusion of mice is difficult if not 
impossible as we are in an old building with an infinite number of possible 
entry points.

 
Dee
 
Dee Stubbs-Lee, CAPC, MA
Conservator / Restauratrice 
New Brunswick Museum/
Musée du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Avenue
Saint John, New Brunswick
E2K 1E5
Canada
(506)643-2341
 
 
 
 




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Re: [pestlist] mouse trap bait

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Tootsie roll slices attached with a hot glue gun. I have incredible success 
with that as a bait. If you use mini t-rex traps the bait will work for years 
as the other mice can't get to it when it snaps shut.


Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

  Conservation Dept.

 Integrated Pest Management

  Office 757-220-7080

Cell 757-634-1175

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Hi everyone,

I am looking for suggestions for bait for snap trap style mouse traps in our 
collections storage areas. We previously used peanut butter with some success, 
but concerns have been raised about potential staff and visitor allergies due 
to the peanut butter potentially being spread around and urinated out by the 
mice who escape the traps. I read somewhere that gummy bears might work as 
bait, but that was in the context of rat traps and I have not yet tried them 
for mice. (Thankfully, we don’t have a rat problem!). Obviously, I would prefer 
a solution that will not add to our insect pest issues. Total exclusion of mice 
is difficult if not impossible as we are in an old building with an infinite 
number of possible entry points.

Dee

Dee Stubbs-Lee, CAPC, MA
Conservator / Restauratrice
New Brunswick Museum/
Musée du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Avenue
Saint John, New Brunswick
E2K 1E5
Canada
(506)643-2341





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RE: [pestlist] mouse trap bait

[Pollack, Richard J]

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Tootsie rolls are a great choice. We do use peanut butter in some places, but 
mix this up with diverse other baits. Chocolate often returns desired rewards. 
Note that any of the food-based products may also attract and nourish other 
pests, such as cockroaches and ants. In some places, the bait may disappear 
overnight from the insects that take it away piecemeal... and don't trigger the 
traps. Our pest control vendors also use commercial odorant baits on snap traps 
and other kinds of traps. These are less attractive to insects so don't need to 
be re-baited as frequently.

-Rich

Richard J. Pollack, PhD
HARVARD UNIVERSITY
Environmental Health, Safety and Emergency Management (EHSEM)
Senior Environmental Public Health Officer
46 Blackstone St.
Cambridge, MA 02139
Office: 617-495-2995  Cell: 617-447-0763
www.ehs.harvard.edu
richard_poll...@harvard.edu

Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Instructor, Department of Immunology & Infectious Disease



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Interesting... may try that. Thanks!
Dee

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Tootsie roll slices attached with a hot glue gun. I have incredible success 
with that as a bait. If you use mini t-rex traps the bait will work for years 
as the other mice can't get to it when it snaps shut.



Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

  Conservation Dept.

 Integrated Pest Management

  Office 757-220-7080

Cell 757-634-1175

  E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org



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>
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Hi everyone,

I am looking for suggestions for bait for snap trap style mouse traps in our 
collections storage areas. We previously used peanut butter with some success, 
but concerns have been raised about potential staff and visitor allergies due 
to the peanut butter potentially being spread around and urinated out by the 
mice who escape the traps. I read somewhere that gummy bears might work as 
bait, but that was in the context of rat traps and I have not yet tried them 
for mice. (Thankfully, we don't have a rat problem!). Obviously, I would prefer 
a solution that will not add to our insect pest issues. Total exclusion of mice 
is difficult if not impossible as we are in an old building with an infinite 
number of possible entry points.

Dee

Dee Stubbs-Lee, CAPC, MA
Conservator / Restauratrice
New Brunswick Museum/
Musée du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Avenue
Saint John, New Brunswick
E2K 1E5
Canada
(506)643-2341




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[Dee Stubbs-Lee]

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Interesting... may try that. Thanks!
Dee

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Tootsie roll slices attached with a hot glue gun. I have incredible success 
with that as a bait. If you use mini t-rex traps the bait will work for years 
as the other mice can't get to it when it snaps shut.



Joel Voron   Colonial Williamsburg Foundation

  Conservation Dept.

 Integrated Pest Management

  Office 757-220-7080

Cell 757-634-1175

  E-Mail jvo...@cwf.org



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>
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Hi everyone,

I am looking for suggestions for bait for snap trap style mouse traps in our 
collections storage areas. We previously used peanut butter with some success, 
but concerns have been raised about potential staff and visitor allergies due 
to the peanut butter potentially being spread around and urinated out by the 
mice who escape the traps. I read somewhere that gummy bears might work as 
bait, but that was in the context of rat traps and I have not yet tried them 
for mice. (Thankfully, we don't have a rat problem!). Obviously, I would prefer 
a solution that will not add to our insect pest issues. Total exclusion of mice 
is difficult if not impossible as we are in an old building with an infinite 
number of possible entry points.

Dee

Dee Stubbs-Lee, CAPC, MA
Conservator / Restauratrice
New Brunswick Museum/
Musée du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Avenue
Saint John, New Brunswick
E2K 1E5
Canada
(506)643-2341





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