hat it is not a limitation of the concept itself, it's
just something that hasn't been done yet -- and would perhaps encourage
exactly the sort of thing yuo'r suggesting. Where as "will likely be
removed" almost sounds like someone is already working on it.
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> - NewbieDoc Docbook Guide is very helpful for beginners.
> + a complete O'Reilly book for your online reading pleasure.
> The https://www.freebsd.org/docproj/";>
> FreeBSD Documentation Project also uses DocBook and has some
> good
> information, including a number of style guidelines that might be
>
+1.
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trip for our
> readers, the attached patch updates the links to their new respective
> locations.
>
+1. Extra round-trips are annoying.
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d they have all been updated with new RFC's which we don't link to.
> > I
> > think we are better off removing them as well and leaving reading up on
> > security/crypto subject an exercise for the reader.
>
> Good point. Nuking both lists works for me.
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eful Reading"
> section
> altogether? The field of crypto is continuously advancing and keeping a stale
> 10+ year old list of links is unlikely to provide more insights than what more
> curated sites can do.
+1. I don't think it's the job of a postgres contrib module to maintain that.
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On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 5:09 PM Daniel Westermann (DWE)
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>
> Hi,
>
> from the limits page in the docs:
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/limits.html
>
> "...but a tuple of 1600 bigint columns would consume 12800 bytes and would
> therefore not fit inside a heap page".
>
> Creating a
p a patch if there's agreement on the
general idea.
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should be in version 12? The page you
commented on is about PostgreSQL 15, and multiranges were not present in
version 12...
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 7:48 AM William Sescu (Suva)
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>
> Hello %
>
>
>
> The PostgreSQL pdf (A4) shows 12.11 instead of 12.12
>
>
>
> https://www.postgresql.org/files/documentation/pdf/12/postgresql-12-A4.pdf
>
>
This link shows 12.12 for me. Perhaps you have some cache in your
browser tha
On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 5:36 PM Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:32 AM Magnus Hagander
> wrote:
> >> Looking at the Git history, most of that paragraph is from a time
> >> when autovacuum did not yet exist or was much less reliable than it
> >&g
x27;s primarily driven by autovacuum? At least all
active. But there's nothing special about "production"? Since we're
tweaking the wording, I would suggest removing that reference as well.
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On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 4:40 PM Tom Lane wrote:
> PG Doc comments form writes:
> > Searching for "the between predicate simplifies range tests" does turn
> > up a hit for that page, so it's indexed, but the words "The BETWEEN" are
> > not set in bold in the search result. Perhaps "BETWEEN" is be
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 3:57 PM Jonathan S. Katz
wrote:
> On 5/31/22 8:35 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 2:29 PM Daniel Westermann (DWE)
> > > <mailto:daniel.westerm...@dbi-services.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
stgresql.org/docs/current/creating-cluster.html
>
> Shouldn't we change that to "-A scram-sha-256" ?
>
Yes I think we absolutely should!
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ing that part into one section with the
current function (lo_create) and then a separate section with the
backwards-compatible lo_creat function though -- I can see how it's
easy to come to the conclusion you did from reading it, and that could
be made a lot more clear.
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o refer to. Unless there are objections
> I will fix that in all supported branches.
+1.
Note that there are two references to mingw.org -- also one in
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/14/installation-platform-notes.html as
well. They should both be fixed.
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On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 1:40 PM Eric Mutta wrote:
>
> Hi Magnus, happy new year! Thanks for pushing the fix.
>
> Coming from an SQL Server background where the docs are hosted on GitHub and
> minor changes like this can be made by simply submitting a pull request, I am
> wondering is there anythi
it time is the round-trip time **between primary to
> standby.**
>
> Should either end with "...between primary AND standby" or end with "...FROM
> primary to standby".
That's indeed correct. Fix pushed. I went with "primary and standby"
because that's
cexp generates a 404 for me now.
This might be something temporary though, because AFAICT it's where
you end up when you follow the links from the ICU git repo...
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it looks like you are comparing two points in the Norwegian Sea.
I think you may have swapped your latitude and longitude, and are
actually looking for:
postgres=# SELECT (POINT (72.756, 19.974)<@> POINT (72.959, 19.195))
AS DISTANCE;
distance
55.421996899143366
ot supported;
You are looking at the documentation for ECPG, but using psql. The
ECPG documentation only applies to ECPG.
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 12:58 PM Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>
> Commit f2a69b352de introduced a small typo in the CREATE TABLE documentation,
> fixed in the attached.
Applied, thanks.
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fer to the
> downloads section of the web site instead which seems more up to date.
Applied, with changing the "on" to "in" per off-list discussion.
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this is super low priority.)
That looks to be a mistake made in the conversion of the table formats, yeah.
Fix applied, thanks for the report!
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PostgreSQL docs system uses docbook -- see
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/docguide.html for some more
information about it.
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David J.
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 5:21 AM Magnus Hagander
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 1:58 PM Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>>
>>> > On 15 Sep 2020, at 02:43, David G. Johnston <
>>> david.g.johns...@gmail.com> wr
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 11:30 AM Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
> > On 16 Oct 2020, at 11:26, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:32 AM Daniel Gustafsson <mailto:dan...@yesql.se>> wrote:
> > The PL/Lua repository we link to in the docume
ocs to point to the
> current
> repo.
>
Should the name of it perhaps also be updated to include the "ng" part?
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On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 1:58 PM Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
> > On 15 Sep 2020, at 02:43, David G. Johnston
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:05 AM Magnus Hagander <mailto:mag...@hagander.net>> wrote:
>
> > That leaves just the part of adding the actual new cha
be consistent since we seem to use a
mix of different styles of chmod.
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is not necessarily an API
that looks the way the deprecated one looks -- the focus should be on
providing a solution to the problem, not to un-deprecate the API.
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,897.
>
> 80877103 decimal in hex is 0x04D2162F
>
It's 1234 and 5679, not 0x1234 and 0x5679. That is, it's decimal, not
hexadecimal.
0x04D2 = 1234
0x162F = 5679
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ode to cluster will be
equally inconsistent, just in a different way. Why not just call them both
servers?
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nciples of Database and Knowledge.
> > Base Systems. Jeffrey D. Ullman. Volume 1. Computer Science Press. 1988.
> >
> > as Base Systems is not a subtitle
>
> Nice catch, it's been this way since 9474dd7ed6988924 which was committed
> in
> May 1999. The book does actually h
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 4:51 PM Tom Lane wrote:
> Magnus Hagander writes:
> > I think we're talking about a different repetitiveness. If I apply Davids
> > suggestion to that patch, then instead of:
>
> > +
> > + If you are using a pre-packaged version
>
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 4:27 PM Tom Lane wrote:
> Magnus Hagander writes:
> > And I think Davids comment about repetitive language would apply to yours
> > as well, and should maybe be simplified there too?
>
> Per the discussion in the other thread, we concluded that being
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 4:06 PM Tom Lane wrote:
> Magnus Hagander writes:
> > Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. How about like this?
>
> Isn't this pretty duplicative of d2511d713?
>
Eh yes, I clearly missed that one -- that's what I get for forgetting to
put it in t
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 6:25 PM David G. Johnston <
david.g.johns...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 4:13 AM Magnus Hagander
> wrote:
>
>> It's kind of strange that if you start your PostgreSQL journey by reading
>> our instructions, you get nothing us
you referring to the whole section 16.7 in the 12 version (
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/installation-platform-notes.html)?
I can agree with that, and say that maybe that type of content is better
maintained on the wiki?
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ed.
> To correct the mistake, just remove the word.
> Keep up your awesomeness!
>
I'm not sure this is a mistake. The "therefore" refers to the statement in
the previous sentence, explaining *why* it is recommended.
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could use some help with that in the future. But I've seen a lot of
people get confused by our documentation assuming everything is from source
when it comes to initdb and pg_ctl that I think it's worth specially
mentioning it there.
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 3:45 PM Andrey Lizenko wrote:
> https://yum.postgresql.org/rpmchart.php returns 404
>
>
Hi!
Thanks for the report -- I've fixed, and also put a redirect in for the old
address in case somebody still had it.
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On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:50 PM Dave Cramer wrote:
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/backup-file.html says
> "The database server *must* be shut down in order to get a usable backup."
>
> Note: must is in italics.
>
> Then we have section 25.3.3.1. Making A Non-Exclusive Low-Level Backup
>
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 4:49 PM Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 07:06:55PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > I see how that can be pretty useful for something that's as simple as
> asciidoc.
> > But I wonder how useful it would be for our docbook documentat
I see how that can be pretty useful for something that's as simple as
asciidoc. But I wonder how useful it would be for our docbook documentation.
There'd be no preview (which there i sin the elastic), and we know how
difficult it can be to get the tags right without running test builds even
for t
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 8:20 PM Stephen Frost wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> * Magnus Hagander (mag...@hagander.net) wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 1:38 AM Jonathan S. Katz
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 4/9/20 11:45 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > On Thu,
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 1:38 AM Jonathan S. Katz
wrote:
> On 4/9/20 11:45 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 08:47:56PM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote:
> >> On 4/9/20 4:57 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >>> Jonathan, Stephen, with the minor release done, can we focus on adding
> >>> the
ser, use \password in psql, or you can
also use the PQencryptPasswordConn() API function in libpq if you are
building an application and not just running it one-off.
You can of course also use pg_stat_statements_reset() to clear it out of
the existing history but that doesn't prevent it from
generate redirects when requests are coming in from the outside -- it
just makes sure our *internal* links can survive the rename of a file
between branches.
So it may not be exactly what's being looked for here, but it might be
a starting point. Probably the same underlying mapping ta
he same thing with iPAdress
for example. I guess because the first letter has to be lowercase.
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On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 10:42 AM Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>
> > On 9 Jan 2020, at 09:28, PG Doc comments form
> > wrote:
> >
> > The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:
> >
> > Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/rules-materializedviews.html
> > Description:
> >
>
ow the link you propose, then one might think that logical
> replication upgrading is not applicable since only pg_dump and
> pg_upgrade were mentioned in the place the link came from.
>
>
+1.
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 6:38 PM Devrim Gündüz wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2019-12-09 at 13:17 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >
> > What is the normal time to do this, in the sequence. After the repository
> > rpm is installed but before client packages?
>
> Ri
the repository
rpm is installed but before client packages?
And is there any case you'd want to add the pg repositories but *not* do
this? I assume not?
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;"map"" is only valid for authentication methods
> ident, peer, gssapi, sspi, and cert'
>
This is correct. LDAP authentication does not receive external usernames.
It uses an external service to validate the password, but it gets the
username from the client.
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> and it
> makes it look odd IMO.
>
> Any reason not to apply the attached and remote the tags to make
> the
> row in question formatted like the other rows in the table?
>
No, that looks like a copy/paste error that has survived for 10
t; than a docs issue.
>
They were rebuilt and pushed, but it seems the job that deployed them
failed and that whomever ran it didn't notice the error :/
I've force-deployed it now, so the new PDFs will appear as soon as the
caches have expired.
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u get there by clicking "up" on the page you mentioned, and then picking
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On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 3:10 PM Jonathan S. Katz
wrote:
> On 10/2/19 7:39 AM, Chris Travers wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:57 PM Erikjan Rijkers > <mailto:e...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> >
> > On 2019-10-02 12:46, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
&
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:59 AM Selena Deckelmann
wrote:
Hi!
>
Whoa! That was a long time ago. Welcome back! :)
Hi!
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:06 AM Stephen Frost wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I know that I tend towards primary/replica when discussing physical
>> replication, and we do that quite a bit
On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 00:52 Tom Lane wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut writes:
> > On 2019-09-23 13:08, Alexander Lakhin wrote:
> >> While translating Release Notes for version 12 I found some
> >> inconsistencies with contributor names.
>
> > We had discussed this in previous years and resolved that we
e could also modify it to say :
>
> "and -auth-host scram-sha-256 for remote connections if
> your client supports it, otherwise -auth-host md5"
>
That would be the best from a correctness, but if of course also makes
things sound more complicated. I'm not sure where the right balance is
there.
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have probably already done so for other reasons.
That said, I think it would make sense to *also* have a warning. And in
particular, we should strongly consider backpatching a warning.
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better with "in this case" than "at this point"? And as a really small
nitpick, restore from backup, rather than backups?
The third bulletpoint also seems quite complicated really. If we're
tweaking these, wouldn't it be better if we split that one in two -- one
for &q
g.html> / 9.6
> <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/progress-reporting.html>
>
>
>
That is because this page did not exist before version 9.6.
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On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 9:59 AM Magnus Hagander wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 8:50 AM Peter Eisentraut <
> peter.eisentr...@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2019-03-28 01:50, Tom Lane wrote:
>> > Peter Eisentraut writes:
>> >> This has been
pen to anybody
who tries to build the docs on a headless server, which is not exactly
uncommon :/
Can we find a way to override it in the command? Or if not, we should
probably at least document it in our docs?
I have done this on alabio now, let's see if it recovers.
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On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:21 PM Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
> Attached patch fixes a small typo in the ECPG documentation that I happened
> to spot: s/DELARE/DECLARE/.
>
>
Applied, thanks.
//Magnus
er of these and suggest the web form as the primary method,
since that hands out bug ids?
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On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 11:15 AM PG Doc comments form <
nore...@postgresql.org> wrote:
> The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:
>
> Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/bug-reporting.html
> Description:
>
> Hi,
>
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/bug-reporting.h
in the naming of people, and also not to
have duplicates though, but maybe it can be valuable?
Actually, do we have a policy for handling duplicates in the docs there?
Since we only keep names there and not email or similar?
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browsers has to
be pushing 10 years now, shouldn't be a problem at all... And SVG can be
embedded in the HTML itself (whether that would work in this particular
case I don't know, but in theory it can)
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On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 8:42 AM Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 08:17:06AM +0100, Vik Fearing wrote:
> > On 26/11/2018 08:03, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >> Are you sure that's right? To me the original wording of that sentence
> >> seems to conv
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018, 07:56 Michael Paquier On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 12:47:51AM +, PG Doc comments form wrote:
> > Correction: A table that has columns with potentially large entries will
> > have an associated TOAST table, which is used for out-of-line storage of
> > field values that are too
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 3:27 PM Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
> The attached diff adds what seems to be a missing whitespace in the
> discussion
> on dump formats.
>
Pushed, thanks.
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notes already on the site, in the
docs for that particular version. Wouldn't we get pretty far by just
creating a separate *index*, that then links directly to those release
notes?
One advantage of that would be that we'd get away from that link rewriting
that you did in your
the process of manually merging release notes back and
forth in the release process easier, I assume?
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not like we're going to be *editing* old release notes in
branches that are out of support. We'll be trimming them out of the master
branch, but the master branch is not used to load the old docs, only the
developer docs.
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do it -- people
will be upgrading to 10 for years to come, so claiming it's too late is
definitely not correct.
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eing unhappy from the beginning that Bruce would try to link
> to them in our docs, and I think we're seeing now that indeed they're
> not trustworthy permanent URLs.
>
> > Maybe we should be
> > looking for some more stable source of similar information?
>
> Exact
rting a lot of data at the same time, consider using the COPY
> command.
>
I've applied a fix for this. Thanks for the report!
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k on release-11.sgml, which seems to be going on in more than
> one thread. I'll appreciate your feedback if it should have been done
> differently.
Hi!
These all look good to me. Thanks, applied!
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t into separate ones a long time ago.
>
> The attached patch removes the above mentioned parts (confirmed with an
> OpenBSD
> developer). This should probably be backpatched to all supported versions
> as
> it’s been wrong for a long time.
>
Applied and backpatched. Thanks!
ding
> authentication methods and more information about them, and it's all on
> one HTML page. I propose to move those sections up one level in the
> hierarchy so they end up on separate HTML pages.
>
+1, that definitely seems like a good idea.
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On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Jonathan S. Katz
wrote:
>
> On Apr 3, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Peter Eisentraut <
> peter.eisentr...@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
>
> On 4/3/18 09:12, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>
> I've pushed the fix and reloaded the 10 docs. I have not reloaded
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Peter Eisentraut <
peter.eisentr...@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> On 4/1/18 11:55, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > However, why does devel work fine when the others are broken. It's the
> > exact same code that's run to load the docs. The *inp
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Magnus Hagander writes:
> > Is it possible that this issue actually showed up around 4-5 February,
> but
> > just has gone unnoticed since?
>
> It's been there a few weeks, anyway --- I remember somebody complai
than a correction. Is that right?
> >
> >
> > Looks like a syntax bug fix to me - especially since it is a reference
> table.
> > Those should be back-patched.
>
> OK, now backpatched through 9.3.
>
>
Thanks!
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On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 05:39:46PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 01:17:04AM -0300, Euler Taveira wrote:
> > >
t; (n) ]".
> > >
> > Good catch! It seems to be an oversight in commit
> > 768b647ead78d0d63915c1708cad13c2468f9440. The attached patch adds it.
>
> Wow, that commit is from 2004. Patch applied and backpatched to v10.
>
If it goes all the way back to 2004, why not
script
that loads the docs runs outside of Django.
Now, the entire machine was upgraded to a new Debian meaning new python,
new tidy etc some time ago. But this was done the first week of February.
Is it possible that this issue actually showed up around 4-5 February, but
just has gone unnoticed since?
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ally missed/forgotten how some part of that one is handled..
It also talks separately about "going into walsender mode" (=physical
replication) and "instructs the walsender to connect to the database". I
think that's a bit confusing. I suggest just calling it "phys
wo last commands with TABLESPACE clauses are ended with semicolons,
> the
> first three arent. Attached patch adds semicolons such that all are
> properly
> ended.
>
I cant see one, since all the other examples do.
Thus, pushed. Thanks!
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production environments that
> manage many terabytes of data, as well as clusters managing petabytes.”
>
> The idea is that it gives a sense of scope for how big instances/clusters
> can run without fixing people on a number. People can draw their own
> conclusions from the hard limit
atic/docguide-toolsets.html
>
> Which version of the documentation is this referring to?
The 0.0 in the URL means it's the devel version of the docs. Theres a bug
that prints it as 0.0 instead of 'devel' it seems.
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